50 replies to this topic

[Greenjulius]

strikebrch, on 09 February 2015 - 08:10 AM, said:

Been a Boars Head user since day one with XL400 i disagree with your suggestion. Stack quirks with cooldown mods for med.pulse and AC/10 + range mod for med.pulses.

You can actually kill Stormcrows with it. Make an effective flank with mediums without them waiting you and more stuff.

You can kill 55 ton Stormcrows with a 100 ton brawler assault mech? I'd certainly hope so. I've had occasionally good games with the Boar's Head, it being the first mech I broke 1000 damage with. (seems so long ago) The problem is that it is bad at what it does.

It's clearly inferior to the AS7-S, has none of the utility of a DDC, zero zombie capability, only 1 missile and 1 ballistic hardpoint. I'm still struggling to figure out why I spent $15 on it, besides the XL400 engine I could put into other more useful mechs.

[Scrawny Cowboy]

I like the "Clanner" 400 XL idea for BH
It has been awhile since I've played but the two loadouts remember that worked for me on the BH was 6 ML, AC20, and LRM20 or 2 PPC, 4 ML, AC20, and SRM6 with the biggest standard for both loadouts.

[Bishop Steiner]

saberrider, on 08 February 2015 - 11:33 PM, said:

Hi Everyone,

first of all: English isn´t my first language, so if something sounds funny: enjoy!

I heared that there will be some Quirk goodness with the patch coming 17th February. So maybe, some of this poor Heroes could get some love:

1. Commando "Death´s Knell":
========================
He is a Commando, I mean, a COMMANDO. And has (wohaaaaaaaaaa!) 4 Energy points. And the Quirks are, hmmm. Have a look what the Firestarter 9A with his 8 engergy points has. And he has JJ´s...
So how about making this poor little guy a medium laser death machine? Yes?

2. Locust "Pirate´s Bane"
====================
I know, ECM and all that. Problem is: It cant shine with any of the weapon quirks is has. Needs more crazy small laser and MG love, or a medium laser buff, because he is crying in his sleep.

3. Vindicator "St. Ive´s Blues"
=======================
There are already 2 Topics about this mech. I would prefer Quirks close to his original loadout: LL´s and missiles. How about the LL-Quirks the Awesome has? And maybe some hot LRM 10 ****?

4.Atlas "Boar´s Head"
=================
Fear this mighty 100 tons of Death, shaking ground and minds with his sheer presence! Wait. We are talking about the King Crab and Direwhale, aren´t we? Because the Atlas has become some kind of meh. Except the Atlas-S, maybe.
And the mehest of them all is the Boar´s Head. I have a crazy Quirk idea for this fat guy: Give him a XL engine like the claners! His original loadout comes with a 400 XL, so why not make something special about. If that doesn´t work, make the medium pulse laser Quirks better.


And PLEASE, fix the Hitboxes of the Firestarter. They are the same anoying bugger as the Raven 3L were during the beta. Just have a look around how many Firestarters dropping in every game. Sound proof that they OP.

Your servant,
Saberrider.

May Ramrod be with you.

Gotta say I pretty much support this OP. The Death's Knell to FS9 comparo is very good food for thought, and I don't even use either, lol. The SIB indeed needs mor evolve, as does the VND-1X

[Tatula]

Heavy Metal needs some major help also.

[Bishop Steiner]

Aloha, on 09 February 2015 - 09:59 AM, said:

Heavy Metal needs some major help also.

all Highlanders do...namely in actually being able to jump

[Tatula]

Bishop Steiner, on 09 February 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

all Highlanders do...namely in actually being able to jump

Should compare the jumping Direwolf and the Highlanders. 100 ton mech shouldn't jumper better than a 90 ton mech.

[Gas Guzzler]

Give the Dragon Slayer +40% PPC velocity!

[Gas Guzzler]

strikebrch, on 09 February 2015 - 08:10 AM, said:

Been a Boars Head user since day one with XL400 i disagree with your suggestion. Stack quirks with cooldown mods for med.pulse and AC/10 + range mod for med.pulses.

You can actually kill Stormcrows with it. Make an effective flank with mediums without them waiting you and more stuff.

Does someone have that double facepalm meme handy? Facedesk also implies

[Viges]

x-5 needs help too

[Gas Guzzler]

Bishop Steiner, on 09 February 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

all Highlanders do...namely in actually being able to jump

I think the 733P could use even more help as well. Better LL quirks mainly.

[Duke Nedo]

nobody puts babe in a corner

[Zolaz]

saberrider, on 08 February 2015 - 11:33 PM, said:

And PLEASE, fix the Hitboxes of the Firestarter. They are the same anoying bugger as the Raven 3L were during the beta. Just have a look around how many Firestarters dropping in every game. Sound proof that they OP.

PGI's solution to hitboxes is to make them larger than the mech. From what I have heard, when the hitboxes are small and damage hits two at the same time the calculation gets all messed up. It is much easier to make the hitboxes larger than to fix the code I guess.

[Remarius]

Aloha, on 09 February 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

Should compare the jumping Direwolf and the Highlanders. 100 ton mech shouldn't jumper better than a 90 ton mech.

As a DWF-S and all Highander pilot... it doesn't....

[Remarius]

Greenjulius, on 09 February 2015 - 08:50 AM, said:

You can kill 55 ton Stormcrows with a 100 ton brawler assault mech? I'd certainly hope so. I've had occasionally good games with the Boar's Head, it being the first mech I broke 1000 damage with. (seems so long ago) The problem is that it is bad at what it does.

It's clearly inferior to the AS7-S, has none of the utility of a DDC, zero zombie capability, only 1 missile and 1 ballistic hardpoint. I'm still struggling to figure out why I spent $15 on it, besides the XL400 engine I could put into other more useful mechs.

Could be worse I paid full price on the day it was introduced and dread to think what that was.

I've had 3 of my highest kill totals in the Boars Head so I'm quite sentimental about it I just don't think it has much place since the Direwolf was introduced. Was distinctly unimpressed with the quirks as with one ballistic slot in a 100 tonner why would you fit an AC10 when you can slot an AC20 straight in? If the quirks themselves had been better it might still have had a role but they weren't and the S/D-DC are just plain better in the brawler role.

PS: It has a GREAT paintjob though!

Edited by Remarius, 10 February 2015 - 04:14 AM.

[Col Jaime Wolf]

saberrider, on 08 February 2015 - 11:33 PM, said:

Hi Everyone,

first of all: English isn´t my first language, so if something sounds funny: enjoy!

I heared that there will be some Quirk goodness with the patch coming 17th February. So maybe, some of this poor Heroes could get some love:

1. Commando "Death´s Knell":
========================
He is a Commando, I mean, a COMMANDO. And has (wohaaaaaaaaaa!) 4 Energy points. And the Quirks are, hmmm. Have a look what the Firestarter 9A with his 8 engergy points has. And he has JJ´s...
So how about making this poor little guy a medium laser death machine? Yes?

2. Locust "Pirate´s Bane"
====================
I know, ECM and all that. Problem is: It cant shine with any of the weapon quirks is has. Needs more crazy small laser and MG love, or a medium laser buff, because he is crying in his sleep.

3. Vindicator "St. Ive´s Blues"
=======================
There are already 2 Topics about this mech. I would prefer Quirks close to his original loadout: LL´s and missiles. How about the LL-Quirks the Awesome has? And maybe some hot LRM 10 ****?

4.Atlas "Boar´s Head"
=================
Fear this mighty 100 tons of Death, shaking ground and minds with his sheer presence! Wait. We are talking about the King Crab and Direwhale, aren´t we? Because the Atlas has become some kind of meh. Except the Atlas-S, maybe.
And the mehest of them all is the Boar´s Head. I have a crazy Quirk idea for this fat guy: Give him a XL engine like the claners! His original loadout comes with a 400 XL, so why not make something special about. If that doesn´t work, make the medium pulse laser Quirks better.


And PLEASE, fix the Hitboxes of the Firestarter. They are the same anoying bugger as the Raven 3L were during the beta. Just have a look around how many Firestarters dropping in every game. Sound proof that they OP.

Your servant,
Saberrider.

May Ramrod be with you.

you forgot PB, HM, and pretty much any hero that doesnt have "FIre" or "ilya" in its name.

[Curccu]

Lily from animove, on 09 February 2015 - 06:42 AM, said:

I wodner if PGI could tigten the template of the spread that MG's have. somethign like -50% cone of fire for M's maybe.

Yes but 50% sucks, 100% would be ok.
Why the hell MGs have spread at all when UAC 2/5/10/20s doesn't have it.

Kaeb Odellas, on 09 February 2015 - 06:43 AM, said:

That would be pretty worthless with the way MGs spread.

I know that very well , my comment was supposed to be funny or something.

[Johnny Z]

The Op left out the Orion hero Protector?????? I mean i stopped taking it to the star map and my scores are thanking me. Same with the commando, stopped taking that and scores improved vastly.

Edited by Johnny Z, 10 February 2015 - 04:31 AM.

[Lily from animove]

Greenjulius, on 09 February 2015 - 08:50 AM, said:

You can kill 55 ton Stormcrows with a 100 ton brawler assault mech? I'd certainly hope so. I've had occasionally good games with the Boar's Head, it being the first mech I broke 1000 damage with. (seems so long ago) The problem is that it is bad at what it does.

It's clearly inferior to the AS7-S, has none of the utility of a DDC, zero zombie capability, only 1 missile and 1 ballistic hardpoint. I'm still struggling to figure out why I spent $15 on it, besides the XL400 engine I could put into other more useful mechs.

the question is what to do with it to make not a second thunderbolt synrome mech. It tends to boat Energieweapons, and so is at the risk to be the same suddenly overbuffed chassis.

Edited by Lily from animove, 10 February 2015 - 05:00 AM.

[Remarius]

Lily from animove, on 10 February 2015 - 04:59 AM, said:

the question is what to do with it to make not a second thunderbolt synrome mech. It tends to boat Energieweapons, and so is at the risk to be the same suddenly overbuffed chassis.

Go with what most pilots used... AC20 and ML then its definitely not a TDR.

[Satan n stuff]

Black Arachne, on 08 February 2015 - 11:40 PM, said:

Boar Head - Extend the quirks to medium and Large Pulses - add a SRM-6 cooldown.

I'd say just give it better generic beam weapon quirks and get rid of the weapon specific ones, it's a 100 ton assault with 6 energy hardpoints, there's at least half a dozen optimized laser configs you can fit on it while still having enough tonnage left for an AC and SRM launcher.

Edited by Satan n stuff, 10 February 2015 - 05:06 AM.