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[Simbacca]

Does anyone know or have an idea when PGI will release the Thunderbolt and Wolverine Hero mechs?

[Felio]

No, there has been no news about it. They also seem to be more focused on mech packages than hero mechs, though I'm sure we haven't seen the last of them. They just aren't being made as frequently.

[Alistair Winter]

I imagine Hero mechs don't pay as much as they used to, since they keep selling more and more Mech packs. It's not like in 2013, when a new hero mech would often provide new possibilities. Right now, I guess Hero mechs are mostly an opportunity for die-hard fans of any chassis to earn more C-bills while playing their favourite chassis.

I'd like to see a Thunderbolt with ballistics in both arms though. If MGs weren't so worthless, it'd be cool to have 4 MGs on a heavy mech with loads of other weapons in the torso. Useless for the current meta, but just for the sake of novelty.

Really can't think of anything cool for the Wolverine. Erm... cockpit-mounted AC2? I give up.

[zagibu]

Alistair Winter, on 09 February 2015 - 03:58 PM, said:

Really can't think of anything cool for the Wolverine. Erm... cockpit-mounted AC2? I give up.

Give it claws and a melee attack .

[Fate 6]

Wolverine hero that everyone would buy: instead of shoulder mounted missiles, shoulder mounted energy hardpoints, one on each shoulder. Give it ERPPC or PPC quirks. Then it would look badass and be functionally interesting. One missile hardpoint in each arm and of course the energy hardpoint in the head and jumpjets. WOOHOOOO META MECH. I would buy it so fast.

Thunderbolt hero should get right torso shoulder ballistics, right arm energy, and left torso missiles and energy. AC20 or Gauss quirks. Ayyy lmao meta overlords

[Malfrost]

Thunderbolt hero mech? YES PLEASE!

[Joshua Rael]

There already is a hero T-bolt. It can fire PPC's faster and longer than an assault mech. The best thing about it? It doesn't cost MC!

[Wine O]

Any hero Thunderbolt or Wolvy would be an instant disappointment as the regular variants will trump it with their quirks.

[FupDup]

Blunderbolt Hero: Why not a missile boat with at least 3-4 missile hardpoints? Throw in jets because only 1 other variant has them.


Wolvie Hero: Hard to decide. Something like mixed ballistic/missile would be "unique" for Wolvies, but probably bad. We already have an energy boat and a variant with decent missile capacity.

I guess 4 missiles and 2 energy might be possible, but it might end up as just a slightly gimped Griffin 3M.

Or I guess having just energy + ballistic with no missiles might work. Side torso energy would stand out.

Or maybe even just go full derp and give it 10 ballistic hardpoints, because of reasons.

[Fate 6]

Wine O, on 09 February 2015 - 07:07 PM, said:

Any hero Thunderbolt or Wolvy would be an instant disappointment as the regular variants will trump it with their quirks.

Then PGI just has to give it quirks that are on par with the other variants. The TDR could use a decent missile or ballistic setup (TDR-AH anyone? Trololo) and the Wolverine could just use a different configuration with torso energy (probably ERLL or ERPPCs) or torso ballistics (idk if that's a great idea given we have the SHD). I'd really love to see twin PPCs on either side of the Wolverine cockpit. It's a sexy looking mech already, and shoulder cannons make everything better.

[Malleus011]

I'm sure they'll get us the Thud and Wolvie heroes eventually; they've slowly worked through the Phoenix pack 'mechs over the last several months.

There are canon Hero' mechwarriors for each chassis - Salome Ward (liaison officer to the Kell Hounds, Morgan Kell's wife) for the Wolverine, and Lt. Gen Mary Tallman's TDR-5S-T (Bremond DMM CO) for the Thunderbolt. I believe the Thud is a medium laser boat, like a giant Hunchback 4P. I don't think I've ever seen a canon Wolverine for Ward, Sarna calls it a 'Star League Era' mech ... whatever that means.

If memory serves, NGNG had a topic for the Wolverine Hero at least months ago ...

[Simbacca]

Fate 6, on 09 February 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

Wolverine hero that everyone would buy: instead of shoulder mounted missiles, shoulder mounted energy hardpoints, one on each shoulder. Give it ERPPC or PPC quirks. Then it would look badass and be functionally interesting. One missile hardpoint in each arm and of course the energy hardpoint in the head and jumpjets. WOOHOOOO META MECH. I would buy it so fast.

I agree with this product and/or service (except for the PPC quirks).

FupDup, on 09 February 2015 - 07:40 PM, said:

Blunderbolt Hero: Why not a missile boat with at least 3-4 missile hardpoints? Throw in jets because only 1 other variant has them.

This is my thoughts exactly, considering that it would be the best way to differentiate it from the other variants.

[Macksheen]

Alistair Winter, on 09 February 2015 - 03:58 PM, said:

Really can't think of anything cool for the Wolverine. Erm... cockpit-mounted AC2? I give up.

2M in the right arm would get me excited.

[zagibu]

A missile boat TDR could indeed be interesting. Aside from the CPLT, the IS doesn't really have a missile-based heavy apart from 1 Jagermech and 1 Orion variant. Maybe 20, 15, 10 in RT and two 6 tubes in LT, and it keeps the 1E in the RA?

The Tallman on the other hand would be a canon hero, but a boring one.

For the Wolverine, they could implement the BattlePurse ™ as seen in this pic (left hand):



Never be surprised again by a battlefield sale!

Edited by zagibu, 10 February 2015 - 07:19 AM.

[Kyynele]

They should just take the 9S as it is, give it JJs, and sell it for 10000MC. Profit.

Edit, actually, add ECM to that, because Hellbringer has one, too.

Edited by Kyynele, 10 February 2015 - 07:19 AM.

[Strykewolf]

Battle purse, eh? Only if I can hit someone with it.

[HARDKOR]

Since hero mechs are just a skin, I hope they make the skins for the mechs we already bought first.

Although, a 25% energy quirked ECM Tbolt with the right shoulder hardpoints moved to the arms would be on par.

[El Bandito]

Alistair Winter, on 09 February 2015 - 03:58 PM, said:

I imagine Hero mechs don't pay as much as they used to, since they keep selling more and more Mech packs. It's not like in 2013, when a new hero mech would often provide new possibilities. Right now, I guess Hero mechs are mostly an opportunity for die-hard fans of any chassis to earn more C-bills while playing their favourite chassis.

I'd like to see a Thunderbolt with ballistics in both arms though. If MGs weren't so worthless, it'd be cool to have 4 MGs on a heavy mech with loads of other weapons in the torso. Useless for the current meta, but just for the sake of novelty.

Really can't think of anything cool for the Wolverine. Erm... cockpit-mounted AC2? I give up.

I bet many people are lamenting the fact the Wolverine exclusive 30% C-Bill variant is the 6R, not the 6K.

6K is a real easy-mode C-Bill earner.

Edited by El Bandito, 10 February 2015 - 07:33 AM.

[Simbacca]

zagibu, on 10 February 2015 - 07:12 AM, said:

A missile boat TDR could indeed be interesting. Aside from the CPLT, the IS doesn't really have a missile-based heavy apart from 1 Jagermech and 1 Orion variant. Maybe 20, 15, 10 in RT and two 6 tubes in LT, and it keeps the 1E in the RA?

The Tallman on the other hand would be a canon hero, but a boring one.

For the Wolverine, they could implement the BattlePurse ™ as seen in this pic (left hand):

Or, the BattlePurse could carry a Locust in it...

[Crotch RockIt]

I love the idea about putting energy in the Wolverine's torsos in place of the high-mounted missiles. Something like this:

H: 1E (MPL)
LT: 2E (2xMPL)
RT: 1E, AMS (PPC)
RA: 2B (AC/5)
JJ: 3

Stock loadout could look like this. Just rearrange the hardpoints so that the energy is in the torsos instead of the arms, move the AC to the right arm, and pretend the SRM4 in the head is a medium pulse laser.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0d751412162e490

Quirks
AC/5, ballistic cooldown: 10%/10%
PPC, energy heat generation: 12.5%/12.5%
MPL, energy cooldown: 12.5%/12.5%
energy range: 12.5%


I like the missile-boat idea for Thunderbolts, too. Just combine the 5S right torso and 9SE left torso, and add a few energy hardpoints.

RT: 2M (20,10), AMS
LT: 2M (10x2), 2E
RA: 1E

Maybe an LRM10 and SRM4 in each shoulder an 3 medium lasers. Something like this loadout; just rearrange the hardpoints and pretend the AC ammo is a medium laser.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...bc71a5fa58b6905

Quirks
Missile heat gen: 12.5%
Missile cooldown: 12.5%
ML, energy range: 12.5%/12.5%
ML, energy heat gen: 12.5%/12.5%