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#301 TibsVT

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 08:21 AM

View PostProsperity Park, on 01 April 2015 - 08:00 AM, said:

It will be done as soon as Clan ERML get a ghost heat threshold of 3.

3Clan ERML deal 21 damage @ ~400m, so if the IS is capped to 2 LL, then the Clans should be capped at 3 CERML.

Also, they would have to drop the weight of a ISLL by a few tons to make things fair, too.

While you're at it why not make IS PPC's do 1000 points of damage and have a damage arc which hits all nearby friendlies within 2000km for 500 points?

#302 Sable

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 04:28 PM

Can we go back to the 2 large heat limit. I'm soooo sick of the stalker spam.

#303 Gorgo7

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 04:29 PM

tAKE THAT BACK sABLE...

#304 Wintersdark

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 04:44 PM

View PostSable, on 02 April 2015 - 04:28 PM, said:

Can we go back to the 2 large heat limit. I'm soooo sick of the stalker spam.


No.

Even as a clan player, the limit of 2 LL's before ghost heat was ALWAYS stupid. It defied even the base criteria for ghost heat (alphas over 30) and mangled a heck of a lot of mechs with 3 energy hardpoints.

So... No. Don't make stupid changes because someone is tired of a particular mech and build. Its hardly OP anyways.

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 04:54 PM

View PostWintersdark, on 02 April 2015 - 04:44 PM, said:


No.

Even as a clan player, the limit of 2 LL's before ghost heat was ALWAYS stupid. It defied even the base criteria for ghost heat (alphas over 30) and mangled a heck of a lot of mechs with 3 energy hardpoints.

So... No. Don't make stupid changes because someone is tired of a particular mech and build. Its hardly OP anyways.


Get rid of ghost heat altogether, for IS and Clan.

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 05:20 PM

View PostIronClaws, on 02 April 2015 - 04:54 PM, said:

Get rid of ghost heat altogether, for IS and Clan.


Wubbarine approves!

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 05:23 PM

View Postpercolated1, on 02 April 2015 - 05:20 PM, said:


Wubbarine approves!


The Nova Prime would as well.

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 05:34 PM

View PostIronClaws, on 02 April 2015 - 05:23 PM, said:

The Nova Prime would as well.

lol, that one was hot before they did the ghost heat thing. I dropped in it once when it first went on trial, got 2 kills and 400 damage, and then accidentally clicked backslash instead of backspace and overheated for what seemed like ten seconds, lol. Long enough to die horribly, that's for sure... and that was frozen city night, too!

#309 Jonathan Paine

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 06:00 PM

View PostAnakha, on 30 March 2015 - 12:12 PM, said:

Is this test going to be over soon? 3 IS LL with no ghost heat is massively overpowered and needs to be removed. When will this be done?


2xClan LPL is still a better option than 3 IS LL - just do the math.

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 02:44 AM

View PostJonathan Paine, on 02 April 2015 - 06:00 PM, said:


2xClan LPL is still a better option than 3 IS LL - just do the math.


So, the CLPL are less tonnage, less hardpoints, less slots, more heat-efficiency, far more range. Also mounted on mechs with superior cooling.

But the LLs have 1 point more damage and 0.1 second less burntime. Also quirks might make move LLs from much worse than ERML to worse than ERML. So the are obviously MASSIVELY OVERPOWERED.

Good lord, some people wouldn't complain if their pet mech would oneshot everything on the battlefield...

Edited by Averen, 03 April 2015 - 02:46 AM.


#311 Dagorlad13

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 09:35 AM

View PostJonathan Paine, on 02 April 2015 - 06:00 PM, said:


2xClan LPL is still a better option than 3 IS LL - just do the math.


It is more than just a direct comparison of the weapons, you need to look at the whole picture.

#312 TheLuc

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 09:40 AM

large lasers are fine as they are

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 11:15 AM

STFU and adjust to the way the game is going like rest of us Large lasers are fine the way they are stop crying because the stalker has another decent chassis.
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Posted 03 April 2015 - 02:38 PM

View PostVirtually Dark, on 03 April 2015 - 11:15 AM, said:

STFU and adjust to the way the game is going like rest of us Large lasers are fine the way they are stop crying because the stalker has another decent chassis.
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Switch to Clans for a while Billy Bad a$$ and drop in CW, then come back here and let us know how it went for you.

#315 Sjorpha

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Posted 07 April 2015 - 02:41 AM

View PostIronClaws, on 03 April 2015 - 02:38 PM, said:

Switch to Clans for a while Billy Bad a$$ and drop in CW, then come back here and let us know how it went for you.


The 3LL GH limit is fine, clans still have a slight edge in both pugs and CW. (yes I play both sides)





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