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#1 AweDeus

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 06:18 AM

Сразу-же извиняюсь перед модераторами, но у меня появился непреодолимый интерес - правда ли, что многие немцы знают русский?

К сожалению мои познания в немецком не позволяют хотя-бы читать по немецки, хоть я и знаю несколько десятков слов благодаря, как это не ба нально,такому явлению как Neue Deutsche Härte, которым было пропитано моё детство и всё звуковое пространство в пределах моего двора.

На создание этого топика меня сподвиг пост вот этого сударя http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__4200089

Давайте попробуем по флудить, в конце-концов именно для этого создан googletranslate.

http://mwomercs.com/...B4%D1%81%D1%82/
Russian\deutschen Delegation, home thread.

Wissen russischen Sprache und mit mehr Zeit Sie mit uns, wir warten.

Edited by AweDeus, 17 February 2015 - 06:33 AM.


#2 DLFReporter

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 06:32 AM

Welcome to our nick of the woods.
I guess some Germans who live close to the eastern boarder still know Russian and can answer your question. :)

#3 H I A S

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 06:37 AM

Я сам не понимаю по-русски, но у нас есть один у нас в единстве , что исходит от России.

(Google translate...)


I myself do not understand Russian, but we have one at us in the unity that comes from Russia.

(Google translate :D)

Edited by HiasRGB, 17 February 2015 - 06:40 AM.


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Posted 17 February 2015 - 06:40 AM

Eckhaaaaaaaard.....

#5 AweDeus

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 06:41 AM

View PostDLFReporter, on 17 February 2015 - 06:32 AM, said:

Welcome to our nick of the woods.
I guess some Germans who live close to the eastern boarder still know Russian and can answer your question. :)

Thank u.
So, what languages are now taught in German schools? In addition to English, of course. Russian students now are taught mainly English and German languages.

#6 Shikata nai

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 06:42 AM

View PostAweDeus, on 17 February 2015 - 06:41 AM, said:

Thank u.
So, what languages are now taught in German schools? In addition to English, of course. Russian students now are taught mainly English and German languages.


I think it is mainly french or latin... at most schools you can choose one of those as a second foreign language.

Edited by Lachesis Muta, 17 February 2015 - 06:43 AM.


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Posted 17 February 2015 - 06:54 AM

View PostHiasRGB, on 17 February 2015 - 06:37 AM, said:

Я сам не понимаю по-русски, но у нас есть один у нас в единстве , что исходит от России.

(Google translate...)


I myself do not understand Russian, but we have one at us in the unity that comes from Russia.

(Google translate :D)

Ein Soldat von Ihrem Abteilung, your mean?
>I myself do not understand Russian, but we have one dude from Russia in our unit.
rigth? Das ist interessant.

wahrscheinlich erzählen er mehrerlei wir über uns? :D
(Google translate...)

#8 AweDeus

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 06:58 AM

View PostLachesis Muta, on 17 February 2015 - 06:42 AM, said:


I think it is mainly french or latin... at most schools you can choose one of those as a second foreign language.

Nun ... es ist logisch. :D

Also as you have with education in schools in general?

#9 cry-

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 07:11 AM

Historically, many schools in the eastern part of Germany offered Russian as second foreign language after the reunifaction and the end of communism. Speaking for myself, it wasn't "cool" to learn Russian in the mid 90s, though. Many opted to learn French or Latin instead.
But we have many Russian reimmigrants here who speak it as mother-tongue.

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 07:46 AM

Las51

Not cool, sad to hear it. What is your personal opinion on this matter?

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 07:58 AM

Spanish became also a very common language to be taught in german schools but manly for the senior-classes.
Also in western germany some schools offer to teach dutch while schools in eastern germany tend to offer languages like russian and polish.

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 08:19 AM

View PostAweDeus, on 17 February 2015 - 07:46 AM, said:

Las51

Not cool, sad to hear it. What is your personal opinion on this matter?

Back in the 90s western languages were more "sexy" than Russian. It had something to do with seperation from parents, who all learnt some Russian in school in eastern germany, many of them had penpals in russia and so on. English and French was the new and Russian belonged to the old.

In retrospective, I would have liked to learn Russian, just to be able to read cyrillic. I was in Kaliningrad for 2 weeks some years ago and felt a bit lost because I couldn't understand or read anything :). But I don't regret learning French instead (in which I have only rudimentary skills left after all those years).

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 08:58 AM

Las51

Lol. My mother learning French in school. But now she is relearn it, because we was travel to europe more times. And that was useful, as also my engrish although we were not in France.

Kaliningrad liked?

#14 Flitzomat

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 09:08 AM

I have 2 friends who studied in Russia for a year and learned Russian of course. I also have russian imigrant friends so I know some basic stuff. But I can´t read one word.

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 09:19 AM

View PostAweDeus, on 17 February 2015 - 08:58 AM, said:

Las51

Lol. My mother learning French in school. But now she is relearn it, because we was travel to europe more times. And that was useful, as also my engrish although we were not in France.

Kaliningrad liked?


There are some really nice places in the Oblast, particullary at the baltic coast. The city itself was nice too, with a mix of eastern block flair and, in contrast, some newer western influences (supermarkets come to my mind). The relative poverty (comparing it to western standards) was a bit irritating at first (as was the culture shock :)), but the people don't mind it that much. This was 7 years ago, so I don't know how much has changed, but I had a great time there.

#16 Count Zero 74

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 09:19 AM

Think the cyrillic alphabet is a big part of the problem. If ou learn for example French or Spanish you only have to learn the language and most of the western european languages come from the indo-germanic background and are all heavily influenced by latin since most western european countries where part of the roman empire once. So a lot of words and part of the grammar are pretty similar.

If u want to learn russian you also have to learn a new alphabet and russian is a slavic language which hasn't much in common with the western european ones which makes it even harder of course.

Last but not least, when I left school there still was a draft in Germany. The unit I was in was a ECM/Radio Reconnaisance Unit. The cold war was over by then but it's hard for a military organization to let go of an old enemy so we mainly intercepted Red Army radio communication and that's why our unit consisted mostly of guys from east germany who learned russian in school or russian immigrants.
I can tell you, sometimes it was hard to find an officer who spoke german. :D
But I had a great time with those guys they even taught me a russian card game which we played a lot. If I remember corectly it was called "Durag" or at least something like that.

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 11:43 AM

View PostCount Zero 74, on 17 February 2015 - 09:19 AM, said:

If ou learn for example French or Spanish you only have to learn the language and most of the western european languages come from the indo-germanic background and are all heavily influenced by latin since most western european countries where part of the roman empire once. So a lot of words and part of the grammar are pretty similar.

If u want to learn russian you also have to learn a new alphabet and russian is a slavic language which hasn't much in common with the western european ones which makes it even harder of course/

You have raised a very interesting thing.
The thing is that there is enough credible theory about the origin of the Indo-European family of languages. Sanskrit, the language that is most similar to the Indo-European protolanguage is actually very similar to the Russian. You could even say that the Russian and especially the Old Russian and Orthodox dialect. In fact, if you look at the German, the roots of this proto-language will be tracked, but to a much lesser extent, due to the impact of globalization of the Roman Empire. English, which had an enormous influence Germanic languages also shows this relationship. Many linguists on a level with linguistic ties so the same genetic mark, spending in genetic studies showing proof of sufficient clear link between linguistic and genetic groups among contemporary Europeans, especially Germans and Russian and ancient Aryans, the pro-Europeans...

I hope it will be readable :D

http://1000petals.wo...n-and-sanskrit/ - first google link.

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sanskrit and Old-cyrillic, book of veles, and yep, i can read some words :D

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Edited by AweDeus, 17 February 2015 - 11:44 AM.


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Posted 17 February 2015 - 12:08 PM

A distinction Kentum- and Satem languages.
German is Kentum and Russian is Satem.
They have grown apart by sound shifts

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German example is developed from the Old High German. English and Dutch from the Low German.

View PostAweDeus, on 17 February 2015 - 06:54 AM, said:

Ein Soldat von Ihrem Abteilung, your mean?
>I myself do not understand Russian, but we have one dude from Russia in our unit.
rigth? Das ist interessant.


Yes, but he lives in Germany.

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wahrscheinlich erzählen er mehrerlei wir über uns? :D
(Google translate...)


I've never talked to him about it :D

Edited by HiasRGB, 17 February 2015 - 12:24 PM.


#19 Todesklinge

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 12:21 PM

Die Russen greifen an ^^

Спокойной Ночи :)

Edited by Todesklinge, 17 February 2015 - 12:23 PM.


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Posted 17 February 2015 - 12:47 PM

View PostAweDeus, on 17 February 2015 - 06:41 AM, said:

So, what languages are now taught in German schools? In addition to English, of course. Russian students now are taught mainly English and German languages.

English, Danish, French, Latin, Spanish and Russian are common where I live.





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