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[wanderer]

Roadbeer, on 18 February 2015 - 11:20 PM, said:

Yup, NKVA, -T, most of the night. Y'all pulled your "best" to be spiteful.

So in order to take planets that we said time and again, we'd give back, willingly once we had an avenue north. You lost planets you're likely to never get back because 'We decided the wormhole MUST CLOSE" or some other rumbling farce of a declaration.

We spent the whole night doing what we call "Tier 2 PUGging" where we all just sit in a channel and queue up. No groups, just shotgun. We'll likely do the same tomorrow to continue making our point.

Would you be willing to return those planets now without that precondition? Clearly, Marik units can and do have a point at which they can contest the Clan advances- that is, via the League pact that promotes units moving to defensive positions throughout the FRR.

This also has the advantage of sparing Marik planets the direct and baneful effects of Clan warfare. If Kurita does not wish to proxy it's planets that way when Marik would find such results painful to the League in the same state, is this not reasonable?

Let the pirate-pointed planets return to Kuritan control, and rather than bring Marik units to defend worlds there, shift them to further bolster the efforts in the FRR. The grains of sand that irritate the oyster holding the Black Pearl of Luthien are removed, and the efforts of the League are reinforced in the directions of it's interests.

While one could continue to place units into the line of Kuritan fire to "make a point", it is, from the Capellan point of view, only the one end of a pointy stick jammed in your eye while the other rests in the eye of the Combine. It only makes you both cranky to no useful purpose whatsoever. Allow the "wormhole experiment" to conclude and we can all get back to what matters. Denying the Clans worlds, preserving the sovereign state of the FRR, and putting down the mad dog in our mutual back yard known as the Federated Suns.

[Stormthorn]

Roadbeer, on 18 February 2015 - 11:28 PM, said:

We did, we all got much laughter about what poor sports you are. Like a petulant, over indulged, little league team

Well I'm glad you had a good time while we played against you. Seems like a mutual relationship. We rake in cbills from you, and you can laugh at our poor sportsmanship.

[Scoops Kerensky]

Like I just posted last page, we've had little to no actual contact with Seraphim. I think it's strange for us to base how we 'really' are with each other when we haven't even interacted with each other! That doesn't seem weird or impulsive to you?

[Gas Guzzler]

Tesunie, on 18 February 2015 - 11:31 PM, said:

I recall that conversation...



But yet we were called "Merc Pigs" and was told "Merc Pigs Go Home". Then, we were told that our help was not wanted as they could do everything themselves.

All this was because "Marik is invading from the wormhole!" MS did that, yet we got the attitude for it and the disrespect. (You can look at Samurai Hans Davion for a lot of the comments, but his unit as a whole. Then Socop chimed in and supported their antics...)



Well. The forums are open. No need for TS.

I can't speak for my unit, as I'm in no position of command, but you've blatantly supported their (NKVA) actions and prompted their insults. You were the one who disappointed at least me. You had the power and the authority to speak out against NKVA's actions. You could have publicly stopped all of this right there on the open forums before it grew into an issue. You where there.

Yet you did nothing of the sort.

So, why are you so eager to try and resolve this now behind closed TS doors? Why not try to resolve this now? Out in the open for all to see? (I can ignore the troll posts.)


If you do wish to try and reconcile between the Seraphim and the DC, you should know whom to speak to (which isn't me, I'm just a lowly member). All I can say is, I felt hurt by the words spoken on these forums. I wasn't the only one who did. But, I am in no position to say anything more than what has happened already, and my feelings on the subject. I can not speak for my unit on any matter.

So you get offended by forum posts and all of a sudden all of House Kurita is the bad guy?

Think you need some thicker skin if the posts on here actually bother you.

[Scoops Kerensky]

Tesunie, on 18 February 2015 - 11:31 PM, said:

I recall that conversation...



But yet we were called "Merc Pigs" and was told "Merc Pigs Go Home". Then, we were told that our help was not wanted as they could do everything themselves.

All this was because "Marik is invading from the wormhole!" MS did that, yet we got the attitude for it and the disrespect. (You can look at Samurai Hans Davion for a lot of the comments, but his unit as a whole. Then Socop chimed in and supported their antics...)



Well. The forums are open. No need for TS.

I can't speak for my unit, as I'm in no position of command, but you've blatantly supported their (NKVA) actions and prompted their insults. You were the one who disappointed at least me. You had the power and the authority to speak out against NKVA's actions. You could have publicly stopped all of this right there on the open forums before it grew into an issue. You where there.

Yet you did nothing of the sort.

So, why are you so eager to try and resolve this now behind closed TS doors? Why not try to resolve this now? Out in the open for all to see? (I can ignore the troll posts.)


If you do wish to try and reconcile between the Seraphim and the DC, you should know whom to speak to (which isn't me, I'm just a lowly member). All I can say is, I felt hurt by the words spoken on these forums. I wasn't the only one who did. But, I am in no position to say anything more than what has happened already, and my feelings on the subject. I can not speak for my unit on any matter.

I could Tesunie, but I believe in letting every person speaking for themselves. Choice is the most precious right any person has. Judging and condemning people for their words alone shows that someone has weak character to me, personally. I also don't know who to contact or who is in charge of Seraphim. I only knew you had joined via forum posts, nobody ever came to talk to us from Seraphim in House Kurita.

Don't you think as the visitors the impetus is on you to come greet us, instead of us going out to seek everyone that joins for whatever reason?

[hopterque]

Also the reason he wants to talk on teamspeak is because nothing that happens on the forums is important or matters.

[Tesunie]

pwnface, on 18 February 2015 - 11:19 PM, said:

Funny how Marik Mercs tried to push their own agenda instead of trying to cooperate with the DCMS goals. When we were focusing on Davion, Marik Mercs flat out refused to assist us. Some help you guys were. If you want to be welcomed as mercs in the DCMS don't try to lead us or command us in the direction YOU want. Please don't pretend like the DCMS asked for Marik merc assistance in the first place. You guys came here UINVITED and got upset that we didn't follow your lead.

We were asked by HK High Command to "attack the clans". That's what we did.

You are misinformed. We were invited here by HK High Command. At least as far as my knowledge on the subject goes. Otherwise, the Seraphim was more than willing to stay Marik.

However, now that we are still out and about, we decided to try and continue to help fight the clans. When we will return home, I am not certain. We will return to Asuncion eventually though.

[Chef Kerensky]

Tesunie, on 18 February 2015 - 11:31 PM, said:

I recall that conversation...



But yet we were called "Merc Pigs" and was told "Merc Pigs Go Home". Then, we were told that our help was not wanted as they could do everything themselves.

All this was because "Marik is invading from the wormhole!" MS did that, yet we got the attitude for it and the disrespect. (You can look at Samurai Hans Davion for a lot of the comments, but his unit as a whole. Then Socop chimed in and supported their antics...)



Well. The forums are open. No need for TS.

I can't speak for my unit, as I'm in no position of command, but you've blatantly supported their (NKVA) actions and prompted their insults. You were the one who disappointed at least me. You had the power and the authority to speak out against NKVA's actions. You could have publicly stopped all of this right there on the open forums before it grew into an issue. You where there.

Yet you did nothing of the sort.

So, why are you so eager to try and resolve this now behind closed TS doors? Why not try to resolve this now? Out in the open for all to see? (I can ignore the troll posts.)


If you do wish to try and reconcile between the Seraphim and the DC, you should know whom to speak to (which isn't me, I'm just a lowly member). All I can say is, I felt hurt by the words spoken on these forums. I wasn't the only one who did. But, I am in no position to say anything more than what has happened already, and my feelings on the subject. I can not speak for my unit on any matter.

You were offended by a man parodying a youtube video of a Japanese man shouting xenophobic insults at foreigners. Then you **** on Scoops after he does nothing but stick his neck out for you time and time again because he believes that our unit members have a right to post whatever funny **** they want to post. You're a clown.

[dervishx5]

pwnface, on 18 February 2015 - 11:29 PM, said:

I will continue to talk smack when stomping on traitors. Don't pretend like the pilots in your group weren't typing all sorts of obscenities at us as well. Don't be bitter that you guys are losing, you guys totally brought this upon yourselves.

Who started the shittalk? o

I'm not bitter. Or sweet. Or salty. Or savory. Or sour.

Edited by dervishx5, 18 February 2015 - 11:40 PM.

[Richter Kerensky]

We've had people expecting us to bend over backwards to cater to their whims because they had the graciousness to click on the Kurita button when our house got readjusted for c-bill rewards and none of us like being bossed around, which is where the "we can take care of ourselves" attitude comes from, by the way. If you just want to jump into TS and tell us what planets to drop on without even saying hello (not that you did this, but other mercs did...), you can go **** right off back to Ghost Bear after your contract's up because you were going to do that anyway. If you feel like working with our loyalist units we're happy to accept the help.

I don't see why you and Seraphim took this as a personal insult and "Merc Pig Go Home" is obviously roleplaying.

[hopterque]

Tesunie, on 18 February 2015 - 11:38 PM, said:

We were asked by HK High Command to "attack the clans". That's what we did.

You are misinformed. We were invited here by HK High Command. At least as far as my knowledge on the subject goes. Otherwise, the Seraphim was more than willing to stay Marik.

However, now that we are still out and about, we decided to try and continue to help fight the clans. When we will return home, I am not certain. We will return to Asuncion eventually though.

Socop and Pwnface are literally on the House Kurita High Council so you should probably check yourself before you wreck yourself, so to speak.

[MischiefSC]

The idea of 'this isn't important to me, so it isn't important to anyone' is another problem. It implies a complete lack of empathy. Why would someone want to be an ally of someone with no empathy? Such a person can never be trusted.

Mostly though.... this thread is most glorious thread. Must be kept for posterity, so winner may refer to it when speaking to loser a month or three from now.

[Mycrus]

FINALLY.

[Tasker]

dervishx5, on 18 February 2015 - 11:38 PM, said:

Who started the shittalk? o

I'm not bitter. Or sweet. Or salty. Or savory.

Marik pilots definitely giving lot of smack talk tonight. Is no problem, I enjoy banter very much.

But when throwing stone, best step out of glass house first.

[hopterque]

MischiefSC, on 18 February 2015 - 11:40 PM, said:

The idea of 'this isn't important to me, so it isn't important to anyone' is another problem. It implies a complete lack of empathy. Why would someone want to be an ally of someone with no empathy? Such a person can never be trusted.

Mostly though.... this thread is most glorious thread. Must be kept for posterity, so winner may refer to it when speaking to loser a month or three from now.

Oh, word?

[Vlad Ward]

dervishx5, on 18 February 2015 - 11:38 PM, said:

Who started the shittalk? o

I'm not bitter. Or sweet. Or salty. Or savory. Or sour.

I mean....

Attention Sommerset? Does a bad Battletech cartoon parody count as **** talk?

[dervishx5]

Seraphim is a no-profanity merc unit. This is a well known fact.

I wonder if they'd be offended by that kinda stuff.

Hmm.

[The Droid]

Mycrus, on 18 February 2015 - 11:41 PM, said:

FINALLY.

[wanderer]

Roadbeer, on 18 February 2015 - 11:30 PM, said:

Clan Forked Tongue soldiers on.

In the interest of education, perhaps I might illuminate where the practice of calling each of the Houses "Clan" is coming from in the missives of the NKVA.

Yakuza form in clans, often alliances of family or mutual interest. Thus, treating with others, calling them "Clan" is a statement of equality from one to another, even if they're rivals or enemies. In truth, it's a more respectful method of address for them than calling you part of the the "legitimate" establishment a yakuza clan is anything but.

That you use it as a method of insult is likely causing them no end of amusement at your perceived ignorance of the whole thing. To put it in common terms a Leaguer might understand - you're being a total square, dude. And from the responses here, they find it highly amusing.

[Scoops Kerensky]

Tesunie, on 18 February 2015 - 11:38 PM, said:

We were asked by HK High Command to "attack the clans". That's what we did.

You are misinformed. We were invited here by HK High Command. At least as far as my knowledge on the subject goes. Otherwise, the Seraphim was more than willing to stay Marik.

However, now that we are still out and about, we decided to try and continue to help fight the clans. When we will return home, I am not certain. We will return to Asuncion eventually though.

I am HK high command, one of the six members of it. There was mention of Seraphim coming a while back, but it never materialized for weeks after the posts were made, and it was a surprise to me at least to see you all over with us. We always welcome and respect mercenaries who go out of their way to help us and mention them in our accomplishments. I'd like to believe that's why groups like Cameron's Highlanders, The Templars, Remnant, and Phoenix Legion continue to stay with us, because we enjoy each other's company and have fun dropping together when we can.

We'd love to have the Seraphim back anytime if they ever have a change of heart. I will keep you all in my thoughts and hope that our next exchange doesn't end in such a way that upsets so many of you, as that was never our intention.