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[Divine Retribution]

stratagos, on 19 February 2015 - 05:15 PM, said:

*agast* no epeen wagging? Why even bother playing!?

For the greatest of all rewards: Mead! (and to a lesser-extent, survival)

Edited by Divine Retribution, 19 February 2015 - 05:32 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Monkey Lover, on 19 February 2015 - 05:04 PM, said:

Personally I think he should go over for a week and see what type of people he is really dealing with If he doesn't already know. You're only being nice so you can use him like you normally do.

We are nice to everyone until sneak attack us and THEN declare war on us. LOL

[Tilley]

MischiefSC, on 19 February 2015 - 03:44 PM, said:

You laugh. We went through that with Liao for months. We took that approach with Marik. Didn't work.

See my concern is that now that we're bulking back up and you have 2 Clan fronts plus Marik you want to close borders.

How pissed are we? Even if we keep bleeding worlds would we throw ourselves at Kurita to help you lose other fronts?

We are pretty pissed.

What makes you think Marik will stop taking your worlds and turn towards Kurita? I would think that the filthy purple birds would choose a path of least resistance..and that is Davion land. We could stop our bickering and put your newly found fortitude up against the clans to make gains...or we can continue "training" up your young lads with haymakers.

[pwnface]

Divine Retribution, on 19 February 2015 - 05:31 PM, said:

For the greatest of all rewards: Mead! (and to a lesser-extent, survival)

The DCMS hopes to send you reinforcements soon, now that the wormhole has been safely closed.

[Sardaukar17]

First

[dervishx5]

Sardaukar17, on 19 February 2015 - 05:46 PM, said:

First

Bro, I- I got some terrible news for you...

[LoklanZFG]

At least now Marik understands the biggest difference between us and them is that if we traded places for their little meatgrinder conflict on Wazan, it would have been a 1 day process whose only by-products would have been millions of C-bills on our end and enough sodium left on the planet in Davion's wake that we could have opened a salt mine for more c-bills

[stratagos]

Sardaukar17, on 19 February 2015 - 05:46 PM, said:

First

Laaaag

[Stormthorn]

MischiefSC, on 19 February 2015 - 03:44 PM, said:

now that we're bulking back up

hahaha, Beta Davions are trying to be Alpha. You got a lot of work to do before you are something more than a bunch of zerging wannabes.

but seriously, you are super polite in game from what I have seen.

Edited by Stormthorn, 19 February 2015 - 06:21 PM.

[MischiefSC]

Tilley, on 19 February 2015 - 05:32 PM, said:

What makes you think Marik will stop taking your worlds and turn towards Kurita? I would think that the filthy purple birds would choose a path of least resistance..and that is Davion land. We could stop our bickering and put your newly found fortitude up against the clans to make gains...or we can continue "training" up your young lads with haymakers.

Because they're fun to play with. Marik made some command decisions based on what, in the long run, benefited them. Kurita has very different interests than Marik and as far as anyone can tell their relationship from day 1 has consisted of Marik helping Kurita. Helping pull Davion off, sending people to help, defending their borders. Kurita in return talks a bunch of crap - except for like 2 people who are periodically polite-ish.

An alliance with Kurita gets people the opportunity to serve Kuritas interests. If that's not what you want, well... why be a victim?

[Arkaiko]

hopterque, on 18 February 2015 - 10:20 PM, said:

So you're saying they're so salty about our posts that they went to war? This owns a lot.

and they lose that war, hilarious...

[MischiefSC]

Stormthorn, on 19 February 2015 - 06:20 PM, said:

hahaha, Beta Davions are trying to be Alpha. You got a lot of work to do before you are something more than a bunch of zerging wannabes.

but seriously, you are super polite in game from what I have seen.

Try to be. Davion was the first Alpha. We beat Kurita so long it stopped being funny and we got tired of the squeeky noises you made. Then we went to Marik, and clubbed Liao down in our spare time.

Pulled a hammy, our 'short break from the ring' turned into semi-retirement, where we took to drink and abused the pills.

Now we've got to have our Rocky montage and hire the right trainer, get back with that girl who always treated us so right and make our comeback.

The game is there to be fun, for everyone. If it's not fun for everyone then the players are failing at the game. If I only make the game for me then I'm going out of the way to make it less fun for others.

That would make me someone I would have no respect for. Seems like a silly thing to spend effort on.

[Stormthorn]

MischiefSC, on 19 February 2015 - 06:34 PM, said:

We beat Kurita so long it stopped being funny and we got tired of the squeeky noises you made.

I remember that. Good times, gooood times... Then we went to the Clan border and we got swool ourselves. You should join Kurita and see how it goes. You might even enjoy punching fedrats in the face too.

[wanderer]

stratagos, on 19 February 2015 - 05:15 PM, said:

*agast* no epeen wagging? Why even bother playing!?

When you have less than 20 planets, ain't got time for epeen.

[Tesunie]

Stormthorn, on 19 February 2015 - 12:18 AM, said:

If Marik wanted to have the wormhole stay open, they shouldn't have voted to back stab Kurita tonight. It would have been great to keep it around for the exact reason you stated, but now it is a risk, not an advantage. I wish it didn't have to be this way, but I doubt it will change now.

Wait. But you guys where going to close the wormhole before that night anyway... So your point became... What again?

Remember it was MS who started this. Also remember what MS has done since the start of CW. They have jumped from faction to faction, hitting allies of that faction to cause strafe. When they are with the Clans, they attack a fellow Clan despite their own cease fires between each other. They moved to Marik and attacked the DC. Thus upsetting the balance of power and causing tension between us. Then, when they are done placing worlds under their TAGs in the "name of Marik", they move to Clan Ghost Bear and attack Clan Smoke Jaguars, whom have a current standing treaty going between them, causing more strafe and chaos there.

However, before Marik even fought back (besides MS and a few other rouge elements), you guys where the ones saying you were closing down the wormhole. You, from the sounds of it, have not contacted your allies about this and have taken actions of your own. To protect the wormhole, which once it is gone will not come back, we have started to fight back.

So, you guys where already going to close the wormhole. Your statement of "they shouldn't have stabbed Kurita tonight" in relation to keeping the wormhole open is false. You already were going to close it, no matter the outcome of the recent "stabbings".


Now, consider this situation in reverse. What if, instead of MS joining up with Marik, they joined with Kurita. Kurita and FRR are allies, correct? You two don't attack each other officially. What if MS suddenly started to attack FRR unprovoked in your name. When they leave, you try to smooth things over, but because of MS, FRR starts attacking you full force now. How would you (as a house) feel about that? Same thing here...

This whole thing started with MS and rouge elements (or people who didn't know what was going on) attacking from Purple Dragon Island. Now, you start to attack us to "close the project down". Do you know how long and hard we have been trying to connect that Island to Marik so that the attack path can start to move up instead of down? We've almost made it there through Steiner and Davion territory, and now after all that work you want to just "shut it all down" because of one event.


So, go ahead. Attack Marik. Close down the Wormhole. You just let MS win. This was their goal from my observations of their previous attack patterns. By letting this whole event explode as it has, you have let MS win at separating our alliances.

Divine Retribution, on 19 February 2015 - 03:43 AM, said:

...All the while the FRR suffers...

How many days of breathing room do you Southern houses think you have left? Can Marik build a wall around Terra in that time? Can Marik then defend Terra from all the clans? Southern houses plus the battle-hardened FRR managed to stop the clans for 2 days, even retake a few FRR worlds. Two glorious days. Then this happened and I don't think the idea was properly vetted.

My contract is to the FRR; I don't care if Terra burns. If paid enough I'll help make Terra burn. I'm not fighting the clans to stop them from getting to Terra, I'm simply trying to protect and reclaim the territories of my employer. I doubt I'm the only merc that feels this way. If Marik has some magic superweapon no one has seen yet, maybe they can defend a wall around Terra all on their own. I'm a realist. All you are doing is hastening the clan advance to Terra, the rock you seem to care about, and the world you likely cannot protect alone.

EDIT: And if this has nothing to do with protecting Terra then Marik went full derp. You are pulling troops off the clan front to attack people that aren't fully engaging the clans... because that will make them fight the clans, right? The FRR knows a thing or two about full commitment to fighting the clans and the loss of... everything in that endeavor. Yet the FRR and Combine remain peaceful neighbors. But I'm sure Marik has committed more resources and sacrificed more to the clan front than the FRR, making whatever this is a righteous undertaking...

Marik has sent help your way. We are trying to push the Clans back as hard as we can. With no attack corridor to the clans ourselves though, there is only so much we can do. If we can get an attack path to a clan, then we can place another whole faction's worth of people right to them. It's worked well for the Clans against the FRR so far... So many fronts that FRR is pressed just to hold them at bay, forgot about actively trying to push them back.

Here's the math:
- Clans don't really attack each other here. They all have tried and held rather true to a cease fire between them all.
- The Clans have 4 fronts on FRR, and only a total of 3 fronts to worry about attacking back themselves. (Steiner, FRR and Kurita.)
- Steiner has really only one Clan front. Jade Falcon has two.
- Wolf has only FRR to attack.
- Ghost Bears has only FRR to attack (and a small blob of Kurita remaining near them, unless that's gone now too.)
- Smoke Jaguar has two fronts, FRR and Kurita.
- FRR has six fronts total to fight along. 4 of which are clans.
- Observe map now, and see how well FRR has faired having to fight 4 separate factions on their own.

This leads me to believe that if we, the IS, can get just a few more houses up to that clan front (in more than just defense), we'll be able to place more pressure on them. It's worked for the clans, we need it to work for us. For now, we mercs are there to help. This war that is brewing with the DC though is going to hinder our efforts against the Clans, as some Marik mercs are returning home... (Sorry. Seraphim will remain for at least another week though. Hopefully this will be a short "war" and we will be able to remain with you guys for a bit longer.)

Update: Well, we have removed (together for the record) the CSJ attack path to FRR. That's a bonus. However, Kurita lost connection to their Capital... again...

YCSLiesmith, on 19 February 2015 - 04:04 AM, said:

This is a deeply flawed statement. The Vernacular English has been delegitimized for centuries, but is a representation of English as it lives today, serving the purpose that language has always served in actually conveying meaning to people. Is Robbie Burns less worthy because he uses the Scots dialect? is Chaucer or Shakespeare 'improper' because they wrote in the language as it was spoken? If anything, the 'proper' English is less worthy, as it is a product of Victorian imperialists desperate to order their world and hiding from the impossibility of doing so.

Now, I've got a copy of the Elements of Style next to my computer right now, and within a year will be an English teacher. but when I tell you that 'toss off' is a phrase with a vulgar meaning, it doesn't mean i have my mind in the gutter, it means I speak modern conversational English. You may not want your words to mean what they do, and clearly that wasn't your intended meaning. However English is bigger than you are, and when you meet in a corridor going opposite directions it is not English that will give way.

Language is adaptive. However, expressions and slang meaning shifts from area to area. So, for example, if I say pop, you might think Soda. Where I am from, we don't call it Pop.

Thus, when talking from distances of unknown lengths, a lot of slang and expressions becomes lost. Thus, you should avoid the slang meanings.

As far as my expression "Toss off", it actually was often used for revolts. "We tossed off the yolk of the British." In this case, the literal meaning of the words "Toss" and "Off" should be used. Anyone who connects that phrase with the slang meaning within the way I had used it would be far off from what was being discussed, as it should have remained obvious that I wasn't referring to the slang of the expression, but the actual words. (Unless this conversation started to head towards topics I was not aware of.)

As I was not currently aware of that phrase (I goggled it, and got what was meant), it should be obvious that it is not a common expression from my area. That is the problem with slang and expressions.


As I hinted above, language is adaptive. it grows, shifts and changes over time. There becomes different dialects (England English and American English) and different slang/expressions (Torch. England: Is a "flashlight" as well as also referring still to the burning stick. American: Only means a burning stick used for light. Does not mean "Flashlight") and the meaning of words can shift (Gay use to mean happy. Now it is a slang term (and official definition) for meaning "same sex relationship" (if you get what I mean)). So, for your area, "Toss off" may mean something very different from where I live. Thus, why i used it as "proper" English says I can, as literal definitions. Now that I am aware of it's connotations, I shall try to avoid the expression in the future.

[Lucity]

This was keeping me entertained all day at work today, thanks all! <33333333

[Kjudoon]

....Wow

I was apparently wrong about the quality of the forum war. Davion was creative and witty most times. Some were downright erudite. PGI must be cringing.

This is fecalposting of the worst order. Not even good enough to get my schadenfreude on.

But what it lacks in quality, it tries to make up in voluminous noise to signal ratio.

[MischiefSC]

Stormthorn, on 19 February 2015 - 06:43 PM, said:

I remember that. Good times, gooood times... Then we went to the Clan border and we got swool ourselves. You should join Kurita and see how it goes. You might even enjoy punching fedrats in the face too.

Sounds like a lot of work. You guys come down here and punch US in the face until we get good this time .

I'm something of a fanatical loyalist. We get rolled by the Clans and I'll still be dropping from New Avalon every day. Right now we've got some new people to train and some such but I'll be back. There's about 120 Davions in queue across our borders right now. I'm pleased to see it. Should be better every day for a bit yet.

[Tesunie]

SethAbercromby, on 19 February 2015 - 01:48 PM, said:

As someone who has been casually dropping with members the 11th, Arkab, the 36th and other HK units I have been very welcoming to me and any other who was willing to join in their cause. I know you guys of the Seraphim are of a different wood and given your units' philosophy I have my suspicions of your defenitions of "feeling unwelcome"...

We put honor and individuality before religion and pride ourself in our strive for efficiency in combat. I highly respect you as a pilot and for your contributions on the forum. The DCMS will continue to aid the FRR at the Clan front the best it can despite Davion and Marik trying to stab us in the back as their act of gratitude. Their attitudes have proven the nSL to be doomed to fall by the hands of those who pused to create it in the first place, with or without the dragon to be its attack dog against the clans (or inevitably it's own members for what I can only assume will be petty arguments).

Seth Abercromby
- Freelance Kurita Lyalist

I'm not saying that all of Kurita are bad. But we've been getting a lot of flak from some Kurita memebers.

To list a few:

Samurai Hanse Davion, on 18 February 2015 - 10:24 PM, said:

Your Posts Are As Ineffective As Your LRMs, And Every Bit As Dumb Fired.

Samurai Hanse Davion, on 18 February 2015 - 10:31 PM, said:

Ha Ha Ha Ha. Like I Said, Dumb Fired.

ChefGerstmann, on 18 February 2015 - 11:38 PM, said:

You were offended by a man parodying a youtube video of a Japanese man shouting xenophobic insults at foreigners. Then you **** on Scoops after he does nothing but stick his neck out for you time and time again because he believes that our unit members have a right to post whatever funny **** they want to post. You're a clown.

We had no knowledge of this "video". As it is, you'd think if someone didn't get the responses or was getting upset, they'd be nice enough to inform you that they are joking? Not these guys...

Tasker, on 18 February 2015 - 11:43 PM, said:

Personally, more offended by merc unit sign up for Draconis Combine and then lose to bad clan PUGs. Shameful display.

That's gonna make us feel welcomed... Like no one else ever loses any matches, right?

hopterque, on 19 February 2015 - 12:12 AM, said:

http://mwomercs.com/...salute-to-srph/

hopterque, on 18 February 2015 - 11:53 PM, said:

Merc Pig Went Home.

And from a different thread (which lead to us feeling "unwelcomed"):

Samurai Hanse Davion, on 09 February 2015 - 10:58 PM, said:

Merc Pig Go Home.

Samurai Hanse Davion, on 10 February 2015 - 06:43 AM, said:

Merc Pig Go Home.

Samurai Hanse Davion, on 10 February 2015 - 06:47 AM, said:

[Real Footage] Loyal Draconis Citizens Meet Mercenaries At Their Dropships

(He did a lot of them, but others too.)


There is even ANOTHER thread that this continued in....



One person. One person is all it sometimes takes to make someone feel uncomfortable and unwelcomed. Go ahead. Read through those other threads. He wasn't doing this alone either. I didn't feel like staying with DC after that. I wasn't alone.

[Minimum Viable Kieransky]

Roadbeer, on 19 February 2015 - 11:51 AM, said:

LOL,
Kurita temper tantrum continues

Yeah, we're really upset about owning you.