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[Chiron]

The first 10 internal DHS's cool at 2.0
External DHS cools at 1.4

What does a DHS inserted into, say an XL300 engine cool at?

[Northbear]

1.4

[Egomane]

As Northbear said, extra DHS in the engine only cool 1.4 heat per 10 seconds (h/p10s).

To elaborate on that. If you have an engine that can only use less then 10 internal DHS, all external ones will also only run at 1.4 h/p10s.

So your 300 Engine would have 12 internal heatsinks with a total reduction of 22.8 h/p10s.

If you'd mount a 200 engine, it could cool down 16 h/p10s, but it would need 2 additional external heatsinks. Those external ones can only deal with 2.8 h/p10s, for a total of 18.8 h/p10s instead of the expected 20 h/p10s.

[dragnier1]

To simplify it :

First 10 (engine) DHS 2.0

The rest 1.4

[DelphiAuriga]

dragnier1, on 21 February 2015 - 10:23 PM, said:

To simplify it :

First 10 (engine) DHS 2.0

The rest 1.4

Thats too simple, so much that it can be interpreted completely wrong.

[Nothing Whatsoever]

To add, Heat Sinks provide Dissipation and Capacity.

So before Mech Tree Efficiencies, Internal DHS give 0.20 dissipation and 2.0 Capacity

External DHS give 0.14 dissipation and 1.4 Capacity


So a Standard 250 with 10 internal DHS would be 2.00 Dissipation and 50.0 Heat Capacity

A Standard 225 with 9 Internal DHS and one External would be 1.94 Dissipation and 49.4 Capacity

Here's smurfy's site you can check out with plenty of great info.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Praetor Knight, on 21 February 2015 - 10:53 PM, said:

So a Standard 250 with 10 internal DHS would be 2.00 Dissipation and 50.0 Heat Capacity

A Standard 225 with 9 Internal DHS and one External would be 1.94 Dissipation and 49.4 Capacity

Standard or XL has no impact on it.

Guess I will start working on a guide for this, since it comes up so reliably (if only periodically)
Quite probably simply a list?

IE:
10 Heatsink Heat Capacity Per Engine
225 - 1.94 Dis 49.4 Cap
250 - 2.00 Dis 50.0 Cap


(With some formatting work?)

Edited by Shar Wolf, 22 February 2015 - 10:27 AM.

[Kin3ticX]

this page i made goes into super detail. It can get confusing for DHS and engines below the 250 rating.

https://docs.google.....g263f6502b_123

Edited by Kin3ticX, 22 February 2015 - 10:34 AM.

[TheCaptainJZ]

Praetor Knight, on 21 February 2015 - 10:53 PM, said:

To add, Heat Sinks provide Dissipation and Capacity.

So before Mech Tree Efficiencies, Internal DHS give 0.20 dissipation and 2.0 Capacity

External DHS give 0.14 dissipation and 1.4 Capacity


So a Standard 250 with 10 internal DHS would be 2.00 Dissipation and 50.0 Heat Capacity

A Standard 225 with 9 Internal DHS and one External would be 1.94 Dissipation and 49.4 Capacity

Here's your guide. Just add that the only 2.0 heatsinks are only the first 10 and only if they are included as part of the engine, so the breakeven point is a 250 rated engine.

[focuspark]

It's confusing and broken.

I still assert that engine HS should cool at 1.5 regardless. Singles cool at 1.0 and doubles at 2.0. Let people mix and match single and doubles. Yeah, I don't care about cannon.

[Bloodweaver]

Only the heat sinks you can't take out from the engine count as true doubles. Any additional heat sinks you can put into the engine slot for sizes of 275 and above, are still external heat sinks. With DHS, the 250-rated engine is the most efficient engine for heat dissipation per weight. Lower than that, and the heat sinks needed to get to 10 count as 1.4 instead of 2. Higher than that, and you're spending more than a ton for each additional heat sink you can fit into the engine.

[Nothing Whatsoever]

Shar Wolf, on 22 February 2015 - 10:27 AM, said:

Standard or XL has no impact on it.

Spoiler

Guess I will start working on a guide for this, since it comes up so reliably (if only periodically)
Quite probably simply a list?

IE:
10 Heatsink Heat Capacity Per Engine
225 - 1.94 Dis 49.4 Cap
250 - 2.00 Dis 50.0 Cap


(With some formatting work?)

Indeed, I probably should have structured my post a little differently to not give that implication. I was thinking about how smurfy's has the engines listed in the mechlab (With Standards listed, then XLs underneath), when one is looking at a build.