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[Trainee]

Got this free for 1yr anniversary, and was playing around to see if I could make a viable build. Any suggestions that I could make on it?

I would like a 2nd UAC/5, artemis, AMS, and more ammo, but can't seem to fit more than I have now. Didn't want to sacrifice an SRM6 for anything. Also thinking maybe drop the UAC/5 for Machine Guns. But then wouldn't have a long range option. Can't fit an XL engine in without changing to SRM6/SRM4x2.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3115f1c1909f256

Edit: Forgot to ask if this would run too hot to chain fire the SRM6's.

Edited by Trainee, 23 February 2015 - 12:23 PM.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Reminds me of my old CN9-A build.

You are a little light on ammo in my opinion, and does the BAP do you much good with that?

Low engine does not bother me overly much though- as you should be sticking near the bigger slower mechs anyways.

[JC Daxion]

well, i don't run it with the UAC5, but If you really wanted to run it, id drop BAP, swap to an STD 250 with double heat sinks, and swap to Dual SRM4 launchers, then drop an extra 1 and 1/2 tons of UAC ammo..

But this is how i run mine...


XL-260 with Dual SRM4's w/3 tons, and an AC-20 w/4tons.. The AC-20 is just to heavy to carry the extra launcher. The mech is a beast with this set up. The SRM's can help strip armor or just pack on damage, and the AC-20 finishes them off.

SRM4's can put out more damage than the SRM6's, especially on a medium, adding the extra ton per launcher for artemis is just to heavy on a medium, and the 4's have a faster re-fire, and a much tighter spread, especially up close.

this set up is a short ranged brawler, but packs a huge punch. Average is close to 400 damage per match, a good match can easily hit 600+ and poping 3-4 mechs is fairly common.

Edited by JC Daxion, 23 February 2015 - 12:59 PM.

[mogs01gt]

Here are the acceptable builds for the AH.

CN9-AH AC20
OR
CN9-AH AC10

I run mine with the AC10 since I prefer its trajectory.

Edited by mogs01gt, 23 February 2015 - 01:03 PM.

[Trainee]

I changed to the SRM4's, seems like a good idea. I went with an LB 10-X AC instead of the AC/10, just from what I've read online. Longer range, less weight/heat, same damage.

I really don't want an AC/20, because I think everyone will target that arm first. I also can't afford the Double Heatsinks right now. Can't afford the XL engine and them both with the C-Bills I have. Would add them later if needed for heat issues.

Just wondering if this would be a fun build. I'm trying to save up for a Timberwolf or Stormcrow long-term. I want to play around a little before I get them first though. Don't want to be the newbie with the Top-Line mech that doesn't pull his weight.


http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4d173a6c76983e9

[mogs01gt]

Trainee, on 23 February 2015 - 01:54 PM, said:

I changed to the SRM4's, seems like a good idea. I went with an LB 10-X AC instead of the AC/10, just from what I've read online. Longer range, less weight/heat, same damage.

I really don't want an AC/20, because I think everyone will target that arm first. I also can't afford the Double Heatsinks right now. Can't afford the XL engine and them both with the C-Bills I have. Would add them later if needed for heat issues.

Just wondering if this would be a fun build. I'm trying to save up for a Timberwolf or Stormcrow long-term. I want to play around a little before I get them first though. Don't want to be the newbie with the Top-Line mech that doesn't pull his weight.


http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4d173a6c76983e9

The LBX is the one of the worst ballistics weapons in the game. It spreads damage too much and the crit seeking ability is bullshit.

People will always target a Cents right arm. That is why you have to learn to use that shield arm. Also, players know that the AH's is going to pack 4SRMs in the left ST with an XL engine. Luckily its a ******* cent and its probably the 3rd best Medium in the game behind the Shawk and Crow.

If you get good with the AC20/AC10, you can wreck fools with it.

Edited by mogs01gt, 23 February 2015 - 02:01 PM.

[SethAbercromby]

This is what mine's got:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2032f60e34ab24a
(not actual armor distribution btw)

SRM2s for high rate of fire (chain fire causes an ininterrupted stream to amp the pressure up), and an AC20 to wreck face. Runs hot as all hell in a brawl but it can do really well when it gets a jump on an opponent. I've brawled 'Mechs to death in what most would have considered death scentece scenarios (including me).

Edited by SethAbercromby, 23 February 2015 - 02:09 PM.

[Jake Devlin]

XL275, endo, DHS, 1 AC/20, 4 tons of ammo, 2 SRM4, 2 tons of ammo

[TheCaptainJZ]

It also has quirks for that AC20.

[mad kat]

Trainee, on 23 February 2015 - 12:20 PM, said:

Got this free for 1yr anniversary, and was playing around to see if I could make a viable build. Any suggestions that I could make on it?

I would like a 2nd UAC/5, artemis, AMS, and more ammo, but can't seem to fit more than I have now. Didn't want to sacrifice an SRM6 for anything. Also thinking maybe drop the UAC/5 for Machine Guns. But then wouldn't have a long range option. Can't fit an XL engine in without changing to SRM6/SRM4x2.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3115f1c1909f256

Edit: Forgot to ask if this would run too hot to chain fire the SRM6's.

Trying to keep as close as possible to that build i'd do this.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d9eb76149a7b42e but a std 200 engine IMO is just too low.

i'd sooner save for an XL and do this.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2d55309c6031772

Hit reg being what it is SRM's are heavily nerfed at the moment. So don't rely on them

Edited by mad kat, 24 February 2015 - 02:09 AM.

[mogs01gt]

There are zero reasons not to run an XL in the AH.

[Ano]

Koniving may be along in a moment to post a video of a mech with lots of single heatsinks doing well, but in general double heatsinks are pretty much essential for most mech builds.

A pure ballistic build like this Jagermech JM6-S might work with single sinks, but if you add a couple of backup medlasers it gets hot v. quickly. A Jagermech JM6-S with backup lasers using double sinks on the other hand should do just fine. (NB: this isn't me recommending builds, just looking at heat).

If you've got some other mechs which you've already configured, you might be as well to use them to play for another week and save up the cbills for double heatsink upgrade for your Centurion.

[JC Daxion]

Trainee, on 23 February 2015 - 01:54 PM, said:

I changed to the SRM4's, seems like a good idea. I went with an LB 10-X AC instead of the AC/10, just from what I've read online. Longer range, less weight/heat, same damage.

I really don't want an AC/20, because I think everyone will target that arm first. I also can't afford the Double Heatsinks right now. Can't afford the XL engine and them both with the C-Bills I have. Would add them later if needed for heat issues.

I totally understand that.. But yea give that AC-10 a try again over the LBX.. BUT if you find you like the Lbx, there is a cent that has that weapon quirked to the moon!



FYI, the cent-D has the LBX quirk,

the Cent-A has an AC-10 quirk..


So when you do get the money to buy 2 more, you could think about those, and add an XL engine, and unlock masters.. YOu eventually will wanna try the AC-20 in the AH.. trust me it is a monster. Only one other mech outside of the AH where i had a match with 8 kills, the TDR-5SS post nerf was the other). Granted that is a bit of luck along with a good match, but still you are not getting 8 kills in a mech that can't really dish it out.

Edited by JC Daxion, 25 February 2015 - 08:53 AM.

[Koniving]

mogs01gt, on 23 February 2015 - 02:00 PM, said:

The LBX is the one of the worst ballistics weapons in the game. It spreads damage too much and the crit seeking ability is bullshit.
If you get good with the AC20/AC10, you can wreck fools with it.

So that's wrecking stuff, eh? You realize how doable that is with the LBX, don't you? So here's some wrecking stuff (with an LBX-10 and AC/2).





Skip to 6 minutes to see it in action, while commanding the team, and leading the charges first on the then heavily "nerfed" Highlanders.

O.o;
Shotties for the win.

(I confess the LBX-10 + AC/5 combination on my Victor with 2 to 3 streaks + 2 to 3 ML is quite a bit more effective, but I digress).

Edited by Koniving, 25 February 2015 - 09:03 AM.

[mogs01gt]

Koniving, on 25 February 2015 - 09:00 AM, said:

So that's wrecking stuff, eh? You realize how doable that is with the LBX, don't you? So here's some wrecking stuff (with an LBX-10 and AC/2).





Skip to 6 minutes to see it in action, while commanding the team, and leading the charges first on the then heavily "nerfed" Highlanders.

O.o;
Shotties for the win.

(I confess the LBX-10 + AC/5 combination on my Victor with 2 to 3 streaks + 2 to 3 ML is quite a bit more effective, but I digress).

WTF does your Heavy Metal have to do with an AH??

The LBX still needs more crit!

[Bloodweaver]

mogs01gt, on 25 February 2015 - 01:59 PM, said:

WTF does your Heavy Metal have to do with an AH??

The LBX still needs more crit!

"About as much as your Timber Wolf," I'd guess is the correct answer. LBX could use more love, sure. But I have to agree with Koniving, it's really quite easy to use well. My favorite (note: not only) -AH build is LBX, 2xMG, and 3xSRM6. And that wrecks with ease. I can manage to get a kill or two in a match without even trying, and it's not just against pre-cored opponents either.

Edited by Bloodweaver, 25 February 2015 - 04:28 PM.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Bloodweaver, on 25 February 2015 - 04:28 PM, said:

"About as much as your Timber Wolf," I'd guess is the correct answer. LBX could use more love, sure. But I have to agree with Koniving, it's really quite easy to use well. My favorite (note: not only) -AH build is LBX, 2xMG, and 3xSRM6. And that wrecks with ease. I can manage to get a kill or two in a match without even trying, and it's not just against pre-cored opponents either.

I may have to try that one, been struggling with SRM hit-reg though.

[Bloodweaver]

Chain firing still seems to make a significant difference.

[mogs01gt]

Bloodweaver, on 25 February 2015 - 04:28 PM, said:

"About as much as your Timber Wolf," I'd guess is the correct answer. LBX could use more love, sure. But I have to agree with Koniving, it's really quite easy to use well. My favorite (note: not only) -AH build is LBX, 2xMG, and 3xSRM6. And that wrecks with ease. I can manage to get a kill or two in a match without even trying, and it's not just against pre-cored opponents either.

Where did I say anything about a TBR???

Any discuss about the LBX is irrelevant since the AC10 beats it. It only needs a slight buff in the crit % to be better.

[mad kat]

Shar Wolf, on 25 February 2015 - 04:37 PM, said:

I may have to try that one, been struggling with SRM hit-reg though.

I've got srm hit reg issues too its single handedly nerfed and almost rendered obsolete my griffin 3m.

I have literally watched my srms fly right through an enemy mech on occasion.