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[Johny Rocket]

So here's what Im doing, I have 2 Stalkers already a 3F and a 5M, going to get a 3rd to unlock elite tier.
Any suggestions are welcome.
My main consideration is not boating, the 5M has that covered, the 3F loaded with a stnd300, 2 ERLL 2 ML and 4 srm6s is a toe to toe murder machine.
What fills the gap with flexibility?

[Deathlike]

Stalker-4N has the Large Laser spam all set up.

There's also the Stalker-5S if you need dual AMS.

LRMs are great on the Stalker-3H.

There's no flexibility option unless you actually acquire the Misery to gain the ballistic hardpoint.

[Ultimax]

Well, I know you don't want a boat - but Stalkers overall lend themselves to boating from their design.

I'd be remiss if I didn't recommend the 4N, which is probably the top energy (mid-range) Stalker in the game right now with 4 to 6 LLAS.


If you really don't want to go that route, and don't mind spending MCs, the Misery is the most unique of the bunch and while not really tippity top of the best - it is still an excellent mech and the only Stalker with a Ballistic hardpoint.

Edited by Ultimatum X, 07 March 2015 - 11:04 AM.

[Johny Rocket]

Ultimatum X, on 07 March 2015 - 09:46 AM, said:

Well, I know you don't wan'y a boat - but Stalkers overall lend themselves to boating from their design.

I'd be remiss if I didn't recommend the 4N, which is probably the top energy (mid-range) Stalker in the game right now with 4 to 6 LLAS.


If you really don't want to go that route, and don't mind spending MCs, the Misery is the most unique of the bunch and while not really tippity top of the best - it is still an excellent mech and the only Stalker with a Ballistic hardpoint.

Can't do the Misery as much as Id like to, saving MC for premium time.
The 4N is tweaked for large lasers, that does interest me. Have advanced zoom on the 3F and snipe early in waiting for things to progress a bit. Sniping with 4 or more LL would be fun, plus that is enough fire power for up close.

I like the 3F for toe to toe fighting because it has so much more turret rotation, with the power from the 300 class engine I can turn fight lights and move away when I need to while still engaging.

The problem with boating is no other stalker can touch the 5M, I have it loaded with 3 lrm5s and 2 lrm10s, and 2070 lrms, topped off with 5 ml and enough heat sinks to keep it cool. Nasty is the only way to describe it. Lots of 600+ damage point matches. Running another boat would just be less.

Thanks for the reply.

Edited by Tractor Joe, 07 March 2015 - 10:36 AM.

[Johny Rocket]

Deathlike, on 07 March 2015 - 09:43 AM, said:

Stalker-4N has the Large Laser spam all set up.

There's also the Stalker-5S if you need dual AMS.

LRMs are great on the Stalker-3H.

There's no flexibility option unless you actually acquire the Misery to gain the ballistic hardpoint.

2 nods for the 4N being a bit different.
The 5S just seems like a rehash of the 3F with worse yaw angle.
Got a couple mil more cbills to go but that will be pretty quick.
Think you guys have me leaning toward the 4N
Thanks

[Ultimax]

Tractor Joe, on 07 March 2015 - 10:30 AM, said:

Can't do the Misery as much as Id like to, saving MC for premium time.
The 4N is tweaked for large lasers, that does interest me. Have advanced zoom on the 3F and snipe early in waiting for things to progress a bit. Sniping with 4 or more LL would be fun, plus that is enough fire power for up close.

I like the 3F for toe to toe fighting because it has so much more turret rotation, with the power from the 300 class engine I can turn fight lights and move away when I need to while still engaging.

The problem with boating is no other stalker can touch the 5M, I have it loaded with 3 lrm5s and 2 lrm10s, and 2070 lrms, topped off with 5 ml and enough heat sinks to keep it cool. Nasty is the only way to describe it. Lots of 600+ damage point matches. Running another boat would just be less.

Then I think you should go with the 4N, with the quirks + T5 range module, I think the LLAS have around 580m (585m ?) optimal range, and excellent heat quirks.

You can run 4x LLAS and basically fire 2x2 almost indefinitely, or go for a high firepower load like 5 or 6 x LLAS.

[ThrashInc]

4N, just hit 6 LL any time someone pops up, then run groups of 2 to cooldown.

On a cold map, you can just alpha twice and insta kill anyone not moving too much.

Edited by ThrashInc, 07 March 2015 - 10:59 AM.

[Brody319]

I would just say, if you get the chance, the Misery is a fantastic hero and will put all the Atlases to shame.

[Simbacca]

I run the Stalker-5S (even in CW as well)
My loadout, if you are interested:
6 Medium Lasers
2 SRM6 with 2 tons ammo
2 LRM15 with 3 tons ammo
2 AMS with 2 tons ammo
300 Standard Engine
Endo-Steel Structure
6 Additional (with 2 in Engine) Double Heat Sinks.

[Johny Rocket]

Simbacca, on 07 March 2015 - 11:02 AM, said:

I run the Stalker-5S (even in CW as well)
My loadout, if you are interested:
6 Medium Lasers
2 SRM6 with 2 tons ammo
2 LRM15 with 3 tons ammo
2 AMS with 2 tons ammo
300 Standard Engine
Endo-Steel Structure
6 Additional (with 2 in Engine) Double Heat Sinks.

I played with sim loads in the 3F before I bought the 5M, good all around load out.
in CW you can take 2 Stalkers and 2 Jenners in. I have 3 Jenners and used the trial 3F(C). Big part of the decision to buy more Stalkers other than elite tier was that mix is a perfect 240 tons.

[Johny Rocket]

Brody319, on 07 March 2015 - 11:01 AM, said:

I would just say, if you get the chance, the Misery is a fantastic hero and will put all the Atlases to shame.

I believe that as far as innersphere goes a heavily loaded armored up Stalker is the best answer to Atlases.
Really would love the Misery, but have so much time to play because my hours at work got cut back to 40. When it warms up I probably will get it just to have it. With the kind of cbills I can stack I might eventually buy all the Stalker variants. Besides the Jenner it is my favorite Mech.

[Johny Rocket]

ThrashInc, on 07 March 2015 - 10:59 AM, said:

4N, just hit 6 LL any time someone pops up, then run groups of 2 to cooldown.

On a cold map, you can just alpha twice and insta kill anyone not moving too much.

I googled it and this was what I found,
Very interesting.

[Yokaiko]

Tractor Joe, on 07 March 2015 - 09:36 AM, said:

So here's what Im doing, I have 2 Stalkers already a 3F and a 5M, going to get a 3rd to unlock elite tier.
Any suggestions are welcome.
My main consideration is not boating, the 5M has that covered, the 3F loaded with a stnd300, 2 ERLL 2 ML and 4 srm6s is a toe to toe murder machine.
What fills the gap with flexibility?

-4N in laser all the things mode
-5S dual LPL x4 mlas dual srm 4 dual AMS ruins things.

Or you can go high brow and Misery, with the hero bonuses that thing is a cash cow.

[Ngamok]

Tractor Joe, on 07 March 2015 - 10:30 AM, said:

Can't do the Misery as much as Id like to, saving MC for premium time.
The 4N is tweaked for large lasers, that does interest me. Have advanced zoom on the 3F and snipe early in waiting for things to progress a bit. Sniping with 4 or more LL would be fun, plus that is enough fire power for up close.

I like the 3F for toe to toe fighting because it has so much more turret rotation, with the power from the 300 class engine I can turn fight lights and move away when I need to while still engaging.

The problem with boating is no other stalker can touch the 5M, I have it loaded with 3 lrm5s and 2 lrm10s, and 2070 lrms, topped off with 5 ml and enough heat sinks to keep it cool. Nasty is the only way to describe it. Lots of 600+ damage point matches. Running another boat would just be less.

Thanks for the reply.

My 5M runs 5x LRM10s and 4x ML and a TAG to paint my own stuff. 10 tons of ammo I believe for 1800 rounds.

[Yokaiko]

Ngamok, on 07 March 2015 - 11:25 AM, said:

My 5M runs 5x LRM10s and 4x ML and a TAG to paint my own stuff. 10 tons of ammo I believe for 1800 rounds.

XL stalker detected.

[ThrashInc]

Tractor Joe, on 07 March 2015 - 11:18 AM, said:

I googled it and this was what I found,
Very interesting.

This is what I'm currently running in it:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...7cc1a98d652d8c0

Though I will say, it was a pain until it was DHS/Endo/Elite

[Simbacca]

Yokaiko, on 07 March 2015 - 12:16 PM, said:

XL stalker detected.

My Stalker 5M runs XL280, 4N runs XL300, and my 3F runs XL300. All my other Stalkers run Standard 300.

Risk-Reward.

[Johny Rocket]

I pulled the trigger on the 4N and have loaded it out with full armor 2 ERLL and 2 LLas and 21 standard heatsinks.

I guess this is now just a Stalker discussion thread. I would like to hear about load outs.

ThrashInc, on 07 March 2015 - 12:44 PM, said:

This is what I'm currently running in it:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...7cc1a98d652d8c0

Though I will say, it was a pain until it was DHS/Endo/Elite

Wicked, a stnd 300 as well. I like the survivability of the Stnd.

Ngamok, on 07 March 2015 - 11:25 AM, said:

My 5M runs 5x LRM10s and 4x ML and a TAG to paint my own stuff. 10 tons of ammo I believe for 1800 rounds.

do you get a pause when chainfiring? Ive been thinking about stepping back to 5 lrm5s and adding a couple more tons of ammo to eliminate the brief pause I get.

[Ultimax]

Tractor Joe, on 07 March 2015 - 02:25 PM, said:

I pulled the trigger on the 4N and have loaded it out with full armor 2 ERLL and 2 LLas and 21 standard heatsinks.

I guess this is now just a Stalker discussion thread. I would like to hear about load outs.

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[Mudhutwarrior]

Done all assaults except stalkers and they are next. Great thread.