138 replies to this topic

[HellJumper]

The game is turning into Ecm counter/ disrupt mechs.

we have enough atm in the game..after wave three lets not have more ecm mechs..

[El Bandito]

Too late for that--as long as the mech is within timeline, PGI will make it. Best thing you can hope is that PGI finally take their hands outta their bungholes and give GECM its canon function soon. It is not even suppose to prevent LRM/SSRM locks.

Can't balance LRMs before that.

Edited by El Bandito, 08 March 2015 - 08:12 AM.

[keith]

or make ecm like it supposed to be and only effect 1 mech?

[HellJumper]

yes but we all know its not going to happen..

ecm has been discussed soo many times already but not made right.

its not the soultion to give more ecm mechs... in the end it will just ecm vs ecm...what will be the point.

last night i was in the battler where my lance had 3 ecms mechs,... (2 assaults and one heavy)..then we had a raven and the clan light with ecm...

soo many ecms... its pointless..just like lrm boats in matches are...

[Mordin Ashe]

Should the ECM stacking be removed it would be quite manageable. That is probably the biggest attrition there is, and completely baseless too.

[Variant1]

morpheus i need a little help here.

Don't worry once they've mastered the hellbringer the heavy queue will return to normal.

[charov]

Breaking news: ECM does not stop lasers, Ac, Gr nor srm.
Why are you complaining then?

[STEF_]

red devil2, on 08 March 2015 - 07:06 AM, said:

Breaking news: ECM does not stop lasers, Ac, Gr nor srm.
Why are you complaining then?

Because a weapon system, now, is completely useless.
While in previous mw games, TT, lore, etc. isn't.

[Kalo Shin]

Why aren't whiners like you packing Beagle Active Probe? Or TAG?

[Green Mamba]

It helps sell Mechs so probably not

[Variant1]

Stefka Kerensky, on 08 March 2015 - 07:10 AM, said:

Because a weapon system, now, is completely useless.
While in previous mw games, TT, lore, etc. isn't.

Do you even BAP,narc tag bro?

[Mirumoto Izanami]

keith, on 08 March 2015 - 06:58 AM, said:

or make ecm like it supposed to be and only effect 1 mech?

Now, I'm no BT expert, so I am curious...what are you basing this on?

[STEF_]

Variant1, on 08 March 2015 - 07:14 AM, said:

Do you even BAP,narc tag bro?

I don't use lrm.
Guess why.

[InRev]

Stefka Kerensky, on 08 March 2015 - 07:37 AM, said:

I don't use lrm.
Guess why.

The best way to use LRMs is to not use them at all heh.

[MauttyKoray]

El Bandito, on 08 March 2015 - 06:57 AM, said:

Too late for that--as long as the mech is within timeline, PGI will make it. Best thing you can hope is that PGI finally take their hand outta their bungholes and give GECM its canon function soon. It is not even suppose to prevent LRM/SSRM locks.

Can't balance LRMs before that.

Not only that but:

Quote

The Angel ECM Suite is an experimental version of the Guardian ECM Suite operating on a broader spectrum and greatly advances ECM technology on the battlefield. Development of the Angel began in the Draconis Combine shortly after the Battle of Luthien, but despite assistance from ComStar, cost overruns and internal problems within both powers delayed its widespread deployment. Clan Goliath Scorpion, having learned of the Angel's development, started copying the technology to create their own version.

We don't even have the right tech at the moment. Angel ECM, which our ingame ECM acts similar to, wasn't even begun development until later in the invasion and then wasn't deployed until even later.

Angel ECM counters Artemis IV and V, Beagle AP, Bloodhound AP (and both clan equivelents), C3 Master/Slaves, Streak Locks, and Narc beacons. Apparently streaks can still be fired but work as standard SRMs without being able to lock. Streaks being fire-able without lock is something that I wish was possible in MWO, but they aren't and that's a different matter.

Guardian ECM is supposed to block Artemis IV, C3/C3i networks, NARC beacons, and Beagle AP. The equipped mech will be aware of the jamming occurring though. Both SSRMs and LRMs can still achieve lock normally. Its not supposed to create an invisible bubble, that position is meant to be filled by the future Stealth Armor.

Edited by MauttyKoray, 08 March 2015 - 07:42 AM.

[Variant1]

Stefka Kerensky, on 08 March 2015 - 07:37 AM, said:

I don't use lrm.
Guess why.

Im guessing you dont know how to use lrms?

[Kjudoon]

HellJumper, on 08 March 2015 - 06:50 AM, said:

The game is turning into Ecm counter/ disrupt mechs.

we have enough atm in the game..after wave three lets not have more ecm mechs..

But how else is PGI going to make an entire weapon system irrelevant, invalidating the purpose of 15 or so mechs and force everyone to brawl at under 270m for the sake of their Solaris jonsing friends and yes men?

[CocoaJin]

I use BAP on my PNT-10K...I get a kick out of watching the ECM tags "x" out on enemy mechs, even more when all of a sudden they realize everyone can see them and lock them.

[STEF_]

Variant1, on 08 March 2015 - 07:50 AM, said:

Im guessing you dont know how to use lrms?

I use lurmers to troll in puglandia. Only there. And yes, artemis, bap, tag works.
But seriously, a weapon with 160m/s (!!!), and that spread dmg.... it's just ridiculous.

[Variant1]

Kjudoon, on 08 March 2015 - 08:00 AM, said:

But how else is PGI going to make an entire weapon system irrelevant, invalidating the purpose of 15 or so mechs and force everyone to brawl at under 270m for the sake of their Solaris jonsing friends and yes men?

Yes because its not like ecm has any counters to it right?

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Stefka Kerensky, on 08 March 2015 - 08:04 AM, said:

I use lurmers to troll in puglandia. Only there. And yes, artemis, bap, tag works.
But seriously, a weapon with 160m/s (!!!), and that spread dmg.... it's just ridiculous.

Well its whole purpose is to soften targets, not kill them

Edited by Variant1, 08 March 2015 - 08:06 AM.