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#41 McMatt

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 05:55 AM

View PostTheArisen, on 11 March 2015 - 02:12 PM, said:

Most people I know consider is heavy mechs to be a little underwhelming. I'm not saying they suck, just that they generally aren't all that great. This is made even more apparent due to the Twolf, which is arguably the best mech in the game.
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IDK if that's true. How is than that almost all time there are 30 - 50 % heavies in queue?

#42 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 06:03 AM

View PostKevjack, on 11 March 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:

Give me a Black Knight with ECM.

I also want the Lancelot.

without serious heat reduction quirks, Black Knight will just be another ML/MPL boat.... And if you ever got one with ECM, there goes any chance of decent quirks.

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 06:50 AM

View PostMcMatt, on 12 March 2015 - 05:55 AM, said:


IDK if that's true. How is than that almost all time there are 30 - 50 % heavies in queue?


Because Hellbringers and Timberwolves

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 06:52 AM

View PostInRev, on 12 March 2015 - 06:50 AM, said:


Because Hellbringers and Timberwolves

and gaussjagers and thunderbolts and to a lesser degree drg-1n and jesters

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 06:56 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 12 March 2015 - 06:52 AM, said:

and gaussjagers and thunderbolts and to a lesser degree drg-1n and jesters

And Orions and CTF, catapults are also in almost every match ...

#46 Mirumoto Izanami

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 07:00 AM

View PostMcMatt, on 12 March 2015 - 06:56 AM, said:

catapults are also in almost every match ...



Yeah, whats up with that?

#47 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 07:04 AM

View PostMirumoto Izanami, on 12 March 2015 - 07:00 AM, said:



Yeah, whats up with that?


Popular and well loved mech in MechWarrior and BT. Even if it isn't THAT great, people will make it work so they can pilot an iconic mech.

Even if the Timber Wolf turned out not to be great (say it had Catapult like hitboxes), you would still see them around everywhere because when many people think MechWarrior, they think Timber Wolf.

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 07:30 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 12 March 2015 - 07:04 AM, said:


Popular and well loved mech in MechWarrior and BT. Even if it isn't THAT great, people will make it work so they can pilot an iconic mech.

Even if the Timber Wolf turned out not to be great (say it had Catapult like hitboxes), you would still see them around everywhere because when many people think MechWarrior, they think Timber Wolf.


Honestly if the Timber Wolf had to use an IS XL in this game it might have been dead on arrival.

#49 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 08:20 AM

View PostUltimatum X, on 12 March 2015 - 07:30 AM, said:


Honestly if the Timber Wolf had to use an IS XL in this game it might have been dead on arrival.


People would still use it though. Some (including myself) like certain mechs and we will try our best to make them work.

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 09:04 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 12 March 2015 - 08:20 AM, said:

People would still use it though. Some (including myself) like certain mechs and we will try our best to make them work.


I don't feel this is true.

I almost never see any Awesomes, and not a day goes by that you don't hear someone lamenting the state of this mech.


People will make average or mediocre mechs try to work when there is at least some redeemable quality.

Mechs that are truly a mess, you rarely ever see.

Edited by Ultimatum X, 12 March 2015 - 09:16 AM.


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Posted 12 March 2015 - 09:13 AM

Lancelot for me please.

Skinny, speedy and high weapon mounts. Whats not to like?

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 09:15 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 12 March 2015 - 07:04 AM, said:

Popular and well loved mech in MechWarrior and BT. Even if it isn't THAT great, people will make it work so they can pilot an iconic mech.

Even if the Timber Wolf turned out not to be great (say it had Catapult like hitboxes), you would still see them around everywhere because when many people think MechWarrior, they think Timber Wolf.



I remember kinda liking the C1 when I elited the catapults a while back....I should give the C1 another spin now that it has some quirks.

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 09:41 AM

I personally like the CPLT to much to admit , but facts remain the same Cataphract is just way better.
is likely the best Heavy mech you can ever have or will get.
it's reasonable small (chassis) and hard to kill

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 10:47 AM

View PostUltimatum X, on 12 March 2015 - 09:04 AM, said:


I don't feel this is true.

I almost never see any Awesomes, and not a day goes by that you don't hear someone lamenting the state of this mech.


People will make average or mediocre mechs try to work when there is at least some redeemable quality.

Mechs that are truly a mess, you rarely ever see.


I still see some Awesomes, but like you said, not many.

My point is, you see Awesomes. Why? Because it is a chassis that some people still like to pilot despite it being hard mode.

Now an Awesome is also a drastic example (would probably win in a vote for worst IS mech), and you still see them out there from time to time.

As iconic as an Awesome is, it isn't Timber Wolf iconic. Trust me, you would still see them being played. Now the CW crowd probably would avoid it since the are too 1337 for anything less than meta, but in solo queue, it would still show up fairly frequently.





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