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[Greenjulius]

The patch tomorrow will bring much needed buffs to ole big ears. The A1 gets +20 structure, +20 Armor.

No changes to K2 or Jester, however.

Discuss?

Edited by Greenjulius, 16 March 2015 - 07:18 PM.

[Tennex]

woooooooooooow. Thats a huge buff

[Pjwned]

That seems really out of hand, giving those arms such a massive HP increase makes it not even worthwhile to shoot them unless they're getting focus fired by multiple mechs.

Edited by Pjwned, 16 March 2015 - 03:18 PM.

[Tennex]

Pjwned, on 16 March 2015 - 03:06 PM, said:

That seems really out of hand, giving those arms such a massive HP increase makes it not even worthwhile to shoot them unless they're getting focus fired by multiple mechs.

Well having played the catapult during its glory days of bugged SRM6 and no ghost heat. I can say the ears were never the primary target of any enemy. But they sure as hell were an annoyance when blown off, which is quite often.

I dont think it needed such a big buff but i def am not going to complain that the minor annoyance is gone

[Brody319]

K2 no change..

[Greenjulius]

Brody319, on 16 March 2015 - 03:11 PM, said:

K2 no change..

Added to OP

[Pjwned]

Tennex, on 16 March 2015 - 03:09 PM, said:

Well having played the catapult during its glory days of bugged SRM6 and no ghost heat. I can say the ears were never the primary target of any enemy. But they sure as hell were an annoyance when blown off, which is quite often.

I dont think it needed such a big buff but i def am not going to complain that the minor annoyance is gone

Let's have a not unrealistic example then, say you're sniping at a Catapult that's behind partial cover (due to lobbing LRMs from behind a hill or something) and you can get a decent shot at its arm(s) but not really elsewhere, or at least not its torso.

Is it worth it to shoot those arms as of now? Sort of.
Is it worth it to shoot those arms after they get an insane HP buff? Not really, especially not with (limited) ammo weapons or if your heat would go up dangerously high from energy weapons.

I don't disagree with a smaller HP buff but +20 armor and +20 structure is ridiculous.

[627]

so in the end, more distraction for lower elo players who think shootin the arms is somewhat good... and no change in normal play where you just get CT cored from all angles.

Still, a buff is a buff so thx

[Brody319]

Greenjulius, on 16 March 2015 - 03:12 PM, said:

Added to OP

why does Russ hate my babies?
I love my K2 and Jester,

[stjobe]

Current values: IS 20, Armour 40
New values: IS 40, Armour 60

So from 60 points to 100 points.

As reference, the CPLT CT is 42+84=126 points and its side torsos are 30+60=90 points.

If I'm not mistaken, it's going to be the first 'mech ever to have sturdier arms than side torsos.

[Fate 6]

stjobe, on 16 March 2015 - 03:35 PM, said:

Current values: IS 20, Armour 40
New values: IS 40, Armour 60

So from 60 points to 100 points.

As reference, the CPLT CT is 42+84=126 points and its side torsos are 30+60=90 points.

If I'm not mistaken, it's going to be the first 'mech ever to have sturdier arms than side torsos.

I was a long-time A1 pilot (before SRMs hitreg died) and this change is dumb. 10/10 would make sense, but 20/20 is crazy. People should be able to strip my weapons, it's a weakness that comes with the strength of being able to boat.

[Greenjulius]

Fate 6, on 16 March 2015 - 03:50 PM, said:

I was a long-time A1 pilot (before SRMs hitreg died) and this change is dumb. 10/10 would make sense, but 20/20 is crazy. People should be able to strip my weapons, it's a weakness that comes with the strength of being able to boat.

In the defense of the quirks...

The A1 hasn't been a great mech for some time... I think I've seen maybe 3 people take them out this year.

[Bishop Steiner]

Pjwned, on 16 March 2015 - 03:06 PM, said:

That seems really out of hand, giving those arms such a massive HP increase makes it not even worthwhile to shoot them unless they're getting focus fired by multiple mechs.

eh, why shoot them anywhere but the CT anyhow? Still one of the easiest mechs to core in the whole game.

[Fate 6]

Greenjulius, on 16 March 2015 - 03:55 PM, said:

In the defense of the quirks...

The A1 hasn't been a great mech for some time... I think I've seen maybe 3 people take them out this year.

Sure, that's fine, but the quirks don't change that. The arms falling off wasn't the biggest problem, the problem is the CT hitbox combined with general hitreg problems. 6SRM6s actually hit like 3SRM6s because half the missiles don't register. If it functioned properly you should be able to 2shot most assaults in the face.

[ThrashInc]

Was playing mine this weekend, it's fine sometimes but it doesn't really fit into 12-man snipe for 10 minutes then get zerged meta.

It was great in 8v8 because you could exploit your speed and firepower.

[PurpleNinja]

Nothing really changes, we'll keep shooting that big old CT.

[Deathlike]

Well, I like coring and side coring them... so durability isn't actually going to increase by much.

[ThreeStooges]

Maha. I'm going to k2-c4 hybrid the hell out of the c1 now. Two erppc,two mls and lrm5s. Tanking like an atlas.

[Tool Box]

Brody319, on 16 March 2015 - 03:29 PM, said:

why does Russ hate my babies?
I love my K2 and Jester,

Moreover why are they advocating lrms with is the primary weapon of these mechs imo.

[TercieI]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 March 2015 - 03:58 PM, said:

eh, why shoot them anywhere but the CT anyhow? Still one of the easiest mechs to core in the whole game.

So much this. And now moreso. Baffled.