16 replies to this topic

[Ryebear]

So I haven't been using this mech for a while, the engine was being used in my Ilya and Cataphract 2X (awesome mech by the way). Finally bought a 325 XL for my 2X and could return the engine to its home. Anyway the armor and ammo placement isn't exact but all the correct amounts are there.

Keep in mind I have a 350 XL in my Flame, and I am not sticking with a 300 XL because I can't afford better or don't understand the value of speed.

DRG-5N

Edited by Ryebear, 28 January 2013 - 09:33 PM.

[Hex Pallett]

4 tons of ammo in the side torso...

with an XL engine.

[Wrenchfarm]

Helmstif, on 29 January 2013 - 02:21 AM, said:

4 tons of ammo in the side torso...

with an XL engine.

Gotta be a mistake. I'm sure he meant to put it in the legs.

Right?

If not, at least move the DHS out of the arm and into the chest. You'd much rather lose a heatsink to a critical hit than have all your ammo explode.

(Edited to add in actual helpful advice)

Edited by Wrenchfarm, 29 January 2013 - 07:52 AM.

[Ryebear]

Thought I covered that here: "Anyway the armor and ammo placement isn't exact but all the correct amounts are there."

If I am going to share my build I don't exactly want to paint a target on myself. I mean, not that where the ammo actually is on my mech isn't exactly where you think it would be.

I guess I should also mention, 2 AC/5s firing from a single location kills and breaks far more components than seems mathematically possible. Even compared to 2 AC/10s in the arms of a Phract (I don't have a mech that can torso mount 2 AC/10s). It's kind of unreal, and the 1.7 second cooldown is just gravy.

[Ignatz22]

Sir;

I tried your loadout, but found the AC5 firing rate slower than I'd hoped. I'm no fan of the UAC5 in that role either but decided on a single Gauss and staying back more often than not in play. I have a 4 AC5 Cataphract I LOVE for the sound alone, but if I can't fire at least as fast it seems wasted for the few mounting slots available onthe Dragon.

I switched the Medium Lasers for Meduim Pulse lasers, heat still not a problem. Firepower is now 42.

-ignatz22

[Elandyll]

Aside from 2xAC5 or 3xAC2s combos (for Dakka lovers) which I find (to my taste) to be Meh as hell, I just can't see what's in a 5N compared to the Flame and the 1-C ... These are stricly superior I think.
Granted, it's still better than the completely ******** 1N and its 2 missile slots in the center torso...

[Roughneck45]

Id drop the 5's, put in a gauss, and add a med pulse laser in the shoulder. For the Fang anyway.

Flame and 1C are just so much better than the other variants, its a shame really.

Edited by Roughneck45, 06 March 2013 - 01:26 PM.

[Wrenchfarm]

Seeing how this got necro-bumped I might as well post mine.

It's ridiculous I know. But It's hard to say no to 3xMGs rattling away. You can actually set off ammo explosions and rip out internals pretty quick with them thanks to the major buffs MGs got.

[NRP]

My Fang is really effective:

XL350
Gauss (3T)
2 MLs
1 SRM6 (1T)
DHS, Endo, FF

I used to run 3 MLs and 2T gauss ammo, but I kept running dry near the end of battles. Freakin Gauss is devastating. Love this mech.

[Elandyll]

NRP, on 06 March 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

My Fang is really effective:

XL350
Gauss (3T)
2 MLs
1 SRM6 (1T)
DHS, Endo, FF

I used to run 3 MLs and 2T gauss ammo, but I kept running dry near the end of battles. Freakin Gauss is devastating. Love this mech.

Mmmmh, I reproduced this config and ... I'm sure it works for you, but between the Heat management, and the zombifying of the legs (and even arm I think) armor, it's one fast glass canon ...
Looks interesting, but I couldn't play it tbh

If you are at all open to suggestions, have you tried replacing the SRM 6 by a SRM4 (only losing 5 dmg, but much more heat efficent and tighter grouping too) and putting 1 more DHS in the engine (it can go up to 4, but I couldn't put more than 2 in your config)?

[Ohari]

Still tinerking with my 5n build but this is what I have right now...

305xl, Endo, ac10(3t ammo), 2x MG(1t ammo), LPL, ML, SRM4(1t ammo) armor set up is stock so its light on armor for a dragon but not horrible.

I just have a hard time not utilizing my empty hardpoints. But I have been really thinking about just doing a Gauss build.

[NRP]

Elandyll, on 07 March 2013 - 08:33 AM, said:

Mmmmh, I reproduced this config and ... I'm sure it works for you, but between the Heat management, and the zombifying of the legs (and even arm I think) armor, it's one fast glass canon ...
Looks interesting, but I couldn't play it tbh

If you are at all open to suggestions, have you tried replacing the SRM 6 by a SRM4 (only losing 5 dmg, but much more heat efficent and tighter grouping too) and putting 1 more DHS in the engine (it can go up to 4, but I couldn't put more than 2 in your config)?

Um, my Heat efficiency is 1.59 (only using 10 DHS in the engine). This build never overheats. And my leg armor is 52/56 (394/402 total). Not a glass cannon at all. Might want to look at it again because I think you might have got my build mixed up with some other one.

[PenguinMan98]

I just got my Fang kitted out in the way that seems to work really well for me.

360 XL. Why? The mech is basically a medium mech that is larger and has more armor. If you don't put on the speed, you're missing out on your biggest advantage over other heavies.

AC-10 Why? Quirks. 2 tons of ammo, one in each leg.

3 MLAS. one in the left torso, two in the left arm.

SRM-6 in the nose. 2 tons of ammo in the legs.

Dump the rest into Heat sinks and armor.
Standard armor, Endosteel, DHS.

Strategy: Move most of the armor to the front. You are quick enough to keep enemies on that side of you and even lights will have trouble keeping up.
Role1 - Recon in Force. Run with the lights and flank the enemy or capture a strategic map location first.
Role2 - Bullrush skirmisher. Wait until the enemy stops the advance of your bigger mechs, then call for a push and charge in at full speed just blasting everything in your path. Suicide is delightful and often gets a kill on a wounded heavy or assault.
Role3 - Urban Peekaboo. Dash between buildings and take a shot. You're quick enough by the time they see you, you're already gone.

[Macksheen]

Fang is easy to build to quirks.

5N I just can't find something I like besides gauss.

[Gevurah]

For some reasons having trouble with c/p but basically the only build I've found that works in current is;

2xML
1 UAC5 w/ 3t ammo
2 AC2 w/ 4t ammo
xl300, DHS

Then macro fire the living daylights out of it.

[DelphiAuriga]

I think that u can perform better with this weapon combo: 1x UAC5, 2x LLas, 2x MG, 1x SRM4, AMS.

DRG-5N - STD250

DRG-5N - XL300

AMS can be switched to more ammo or heatsinks, or even a BAP, but i dont suggest u to carry a BAP in this mech. By contrast, with the horrible hitboxes of the chassis, i think that an AMS is at least desirable.

Suggested Weapon Groups:
1) LLas
2) UAC5
3) MGs+SRM4

Edited by DelphiAuriga, 16 March 2015 - 10:55 AM.

[Jorunn]

Needed to run a Heavy hero for Pot of Gold and refitted my Fang with 280XL LBX10, 2x LPL, 1x MPL and had some very good matches in it.
DRG-FANG