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[Zeece]

Just because I was curious after the last updates to the Unit Spreadsheet[1]

Here are the biggest Units in the Game... by biggest those that have a membership of 151 or greater... a random number I grabbed that gave me about 20 units




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Now of course everything is an estimate since we can't pull game data and its all self reported by the units themselves.. buuuuut thats the world we live in.

[HARDKOR]

Are RRB, -H- and ELP even active? I have never seen them.

[Scoops Kerensky]

RRB is active on the davion border. When we were actively on that front back in January/February you'd see them every 1 in 5 drops or so, they tended to come either as 12 or 8 mans.

[HARDKOR]

Oh, yeah, southern houses ain't really in the game. It's like AA baseball.

[Bulletsponge0]

There's a joke in there somewhere about Zeece wanting to know the size of everyone's unit.....

[Brother MEX]

We also have more than 151 members !

[BoR] Brotherhood of RANDIeSt ( as RANDIS is a reserved name, I had to use something similar )

Of course we are loyal to the smaller power of the Deep Periphery "Brotherhood of Randis", and act as MERCS in MWO which only take contracts from Inner Sphere factions.

Edited by Brother MEX, 18 March 2015 - 02:14 AM.

[wanderer]

ELP is certainly active. They ran a Liao contract a bit back.

Mind you, a lot of those numbers don't even remotely reflect the number of CW-active players vs. people who took a unit tag, went back to solo/group queue, and never looked back.

[Revis Volek]

wanderer, on 17 March 2015 - 12:11 PM, said:

Mind you, a lot of those numbers don't even remotely reflect the number of CW-active players vs. people who took a unit tag, went back to solo/group queue, and never looked back.

I would say half to a third of those numbers per unit is more accurate as far as CW populations go.

Edited by DarthRevis, 17 March 2015 - 01:18 PM.

[Chef Kerensky]

Interesting, but I'd be more interested in knowing how many of those players are still active and how many of those units actually field their numbers in organized groups. Too bad we can't get that unless PGI decides to be more transparent with faction numbers, CW or otherwise.

[Davers]

All those 'unit sizes' are a bit of a joke. They must include tons of inactive players. If Robinson's Rangers all dropped in CW, without any additional units or pugs, Davion would be dominating CW.

[Ax2Grind]

The Mercstar numbers are inflated, as usual, even counting every inactive, multi-account, and non-cw player in the unit. BWC states they have over 400 MWO players on their website...CGBI has a very small group that plays CW and in the last two months it seemed like the overall size of the unit has decreased by a large amount...this list just doesn't seem accurate, especially when considering active players in CW.

[Aresye]

If you take those numbers and divide by 4, I think that's a fairly accurate representation of active players that play CW throughout the day. Divide that smaller number by half again to get the average total players dropping CW during prime time. For most of the larger units that would come out to around 30-60 players dropping during prime time, which from visiting many teamspeaks of different large units, seems fairly accurate.

Now, by no means does this mean there's a lack of influence. Any unit dropping 3-4 12man teams during prime time is going to have a huge influence on CW.

[HARDKOR]

Ax2Grind, on 17 March 2015 - 08:13 PM, said:

The Mercstar numbers are inflated, as usual, even counting every inactive, multi-account, and non-cw player in the unit. BWC states they have over 400 MWO players on their website...CGBI has a very small group that plays CW and in the last two months it seemed like the overall size of the unit has decreased by a large amount...this list just doesn't seem accurate, especially when considering active players in CW.

Well the units with 40 guys really have 5, so you gotta scale it to reality...

[HelloKittyWarfare]

Even if we can't get valid data about activity, this list tells us something other:
~50% of the most populated units are mercs. That is a lot of movement across the Inner Sphere.

Even if they aren't that active, this have a deep impact on game balance, right?
Most of us "knew" that already, but it's good to see that numbers.
Thanks Zeece.

[The Droid]

Kuritan officials estimate a total of 69-420 NKVA samurai.

[Zeece]

Brother MEX, on 17 March 2015 - 10:52 AM, said:

We also have more than 151 members !

[BoR] Brotherhood of RANDIeSt ( as RANDIS is a reserved name, I had to use something similar )

Of course we are loyal to the smaller power of the Deep Periphery "Brotherhood of Randis", and act as MERCS in MWO which only take contracts from Inner Sphere factions.

1/2 the reason I put up these posts is to help guys make sure my Spreadsheet is up to date and discover new ones.... Until Fox gets me the API its all up to my fingers and yall helping me out... So thanks alot for getting me the info to add BoR into the 860 units on the spreadsheet so far.

HelloKittyWarfare, on 17 March 2015 - 11:12 PM, said:

Even if we can't get valid data about activity, this list tells us something other:
~50% of the most populated units are mercs. That is a lot of movement across the Inner Sphere.

Even if they aren't that active, this have a deep impact on game balance, right?
Most of us "knew" that already, but it's good to see that numbers.
Thanks Zeece.

Totally.. Mercs rule the game!

Chef Kerensky, on 17 March 2015 - 02:37 PM, said:

Interesting, but I'd be more interested in knowing how many of those players are still active and how many of those units actually field their numbers in organized groups. Too bad we can't get that unless PGI decides to be more transparent with faction numbers, CW or otherwise.

Like I said on the reddit thread there is no way of mining active players currently so we are stuck with what we got unfortunately. Tis better than nothing.... and alot more than what PGI has given us.

[Ewigan]

As Kitty could have pointed out before:

The PHL seriously has this number of players, our unit leader Edema kicks inactive members every other month.(he's just plain mean and everything )
So yeah, the Phonix Legion is big with numbers.

Regarding CW and competive play: We only compete in CW as this was our goal all along these days. No MBO, no other legaues.
And now the important part: How many of our players are actively playing CW?
Well we do have 6 set Training dates over the week, so at least one 12 man 6/7 days. Adding to that we tend to have 1-2 random 12 mans on every day AND every few weeks we have our operations where we try to mobilize big parts of the unit. We normally have ~6 12 mans on those days.

[Mycrus]

Unit numbers are a joke... any unit that can field a single 12 man during primetime is huge

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