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[Juodas Varnas]

Lordred, on 06 October 2015 - 11:58 AM, said:

Crab is using poor textures just like the Black Knight.

God f*cking damn it, PGI.

[Juodas Varnas]

Hey, can you check out the resolutions on the new Loyalty 'mechs? Wolverine especially seems VERY low-res.

[Nathan Foxbane]

Latest dev vlog might be pertinent to this thread

[Lordred]

It was, I do not completely agree with it, but it was.


9 min mark has a shout out

Edited by Lordred, 18 October 2015 - 06:39 PM.

[Grey Ghost]

After watching the Dev Vlog I still don't quite understand how they decide which Mechs get textures that are 1K, 2K, or a mix of both. Only that they won't do 2K across the board because they are trying to keep MWO's install size as low as possible. Is this a real concern to MWO players?

Currently MWO takes up about 8-9gigs of space right now. I've got a couple MMORPGs sitting on my computer I haven't play in years taking up 20+gig each. Just how much bigger would the install size get with the current set of Mechs all at 2K?

Do they expect a mass exodus if they ever reach a certain size or something?

[Lordred]

If they normalized the base install of the game universally to 1k resolution, with the # of mechs currently in the game, the base file size would shrink to about 6.4gb on a total install.

If they Setup a full blown 2k pack, it would balloon the install to ~14.7gb. If we did 4k, I expect it would jump to ~34gb.


That said, with some testing I have done, using both my GTX-680 4gb (256bit) and Titan X 12gb (384bit) and using the following command in my user.cfg

r_TexAtlasSize=1024

to try to force the game to use the 1024 maps in all of the texture DDS files (The DDS can store multiple texture maps)

With 1024 maps, with all over settings maxed @ 1080P we can expect 1400-1900mb of Vram to be loaded.
With 2048 maps, we can expect @ 1080P to see ~ 3380-3920mb of Vram use-age

2048 maps would be the sweet spot for our high end users, while if we normalized to 1024 maps, we would A: shrink the file size for the lower end users, and maybe even result in a slight performance gain due to less less files to page through on the DDSs.

We already know that the cry engine has an easy to use mod support system. It should be easy to setup a secondary download system to get players a full range 2k pack.

Now, some visuals.

Lets start at the top, the Mauler, the Magnum Opus, the 2048 monster of beauty it is.



Looks good, EVERY camo pattern on the Mauler looks good, I will over time, be BUYING all of them.

Ok, now here is the Black Knight, right after they said it doesnt need a 2048 RGB or DIF.



Well, that looks, ok, but nowhere near as nice as the Mauler, but I shan't pay for them.

Lets keep going, how about the Assault from Resistance I.



Oh my! that hurts to look at, PASS

How about the Grasshopper?



Ya, I wont be spending money on that paint job either.

Lets look at some older mechs.

How about that Pixel density?



Nope, not buying it, and I havnt, but the Vindicator isnt a full loss, it has one 2k RGB camo, and that would be Hotrod, which I own.



Looks good enough to buy!


How about another older mech, like the Thunderbolt.



pass.

yet.



Woodland looks great, another one that got a 2k RGB.


Sorry for the picture heavy post.

[Lordred]

RGB file for Black Knight Blood Pact slipped in as a 4k res, which is pointless because currently the game, as is will only use the 2nd mipmap which is 2048x2048.

Lets split the difference, and bring the Bloodpact .RGB for the blacknight down to 2k, and raise the base camo of the .DIF to 2k. Total filesize difference will be a net gain.

[Juodas Varnas]

Lordred, on 20 October 2015 - 03:32 PM, said:

RGB file for Black Knight Blood Pact slipped in as a 4k res, which is pointless because currently the game, as is will only use the 2nd mipmap which is 2048x2048.

Lets split the difference, and bring the Bloodpact .RGB for the blacknight down to 2k, and raise the base camo of the .DIF to 2k. Total filesize difference will be a net gain.

God.... Why the f*ck is it so inconsistent???
It makes no sense at all...

[Lordred]

Because to my knowledge, all of the texture files are authored in 4k, then shrunk.

Edited by Lordred, 20 October 2015 - 09:26 PM.

[Lordred]

Wolfhound + 2015 Loyalty Mechs.

[Juodas Varnas]

Do you guys think that 1K/2K/2K resolutions would be fine for lights and mediums and 2K/2K/2K for heavies and assaults?
I mean, it wouldn't be perfect, but it'd be an improvement over the current incomprehensible inconsistent mess.

Yes. This post exists only to bump this thread up. Because it needs to be on the first page. ALWAYS.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 25 October 2015 - 04:50 AM.

[Lordred]

6-Days and We will see if three mechs were done justice, or were given poor textures.

[Juodas Varnas]

Lordred, on 24 November 2015 - 11:35 PM, said:

6-Days and We will see if three mechs were done justice, or were given poor textures.

I'm betting on getting poor textures.

[Lordred]

Another lesson in what NOT to do.

Marauder textures, one of the most iconic mechs, gets the shaft.




Real glad I spent 40$, also glad I didn't spend anymore on the Warhammer or Riffleman.

Edited by Lordred, 01 December 2015 - 12:35 PM.

[Lordred]

Updated Base Camo list to show all current mechs.

Only two mechs have earned a "Great" status for textures, while classics are in Good, or OK range only.

[Lordred]

OP Cleaned up, switched from Imgur as picture host as imgur is having issues on the forums lately.

I am working at updating all of my lists.

[Lordred]

Rejoice!

A recent announcement that all mechs will be re-skinned in 2k

VICTORY!

[Juodas Varnas]

Lordred, on 26 February 2016 - 10:45 PM, said:

Rejoice!

A recent announcement that all mechs will be re-skinned in 2k

VICTORY!

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 26 February 2016 - 10:49 PM.

[DaZur]

Lordred, on 26 February 2016 - 10:45 PM, said:

Rejoice!

A recent announcement that all mechs will be re-skinned in 2k

VICTORY!

Congrats bud! Knew ya could do it.

[Lordred]

Quote from the March Roadmap:

http://mwomercs.com/...march-road-map/

Quote

2k Textures for all ‘Mechs
All ‘Mechs and all Patterns with texture resolutions that were previously lower than 2048x2048 (2k) have been normalized to a texture resolution of 2k. There will be some huge winners here in the visuals department, particularly for the older ‘Mechs.

Edited by Lordred, 26 February 2016 - 10:53 PM.