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To Flamer Or Not To Flamer? (Nova 12 Flamer Build)

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#1 MrPrezident

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 06:09 PM

Sooo, Time to assess the flamer for me, I tried replacing lasers with it, and to my dissatisfaction I basically just lost damage and gained next to nothing in return.

So.. I tried this.



MORE FIRE FOR THE FIRE GODS!

12 Flamethrowers, Praise the firegods!

Needless to say i was blinding people, They can't see anything with 12 flamers firing at them.

What is your opinion on flame throwers? Is it an underrated weapon to you? Is it good in any way? is it viable to swap out lasers in certain scenarios for it? Does anyone have a certain mech type or build that could potentially benefit from flame throwers? Personally i'd love to know. I'd also like to see a mech with Flamer Quirks! Because nothing is better than purging the unclean with righteous fire.

Tell me what you think!

~Prez

#2 Mirumoto Izanami

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 06:10 PM

:mellow:

#3 FupDup

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 06:20 PM

All you need to know about Flamers:



#4 Cranial Enigma

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 06:22 PM

12 flamers is too weak, you need to go 13 flamers, or even better 14 if you have the gift store variant. Go big or go home, FLAMERS FOR LIFE!!!!!!!

#5 Kaeb Odellas

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 06:23 PM

Do not flamer

#6 MrPrezident

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 06:26 PM

View PostFupDup, on 18 March 2015 - 06:20 PM, said:

All you need to know about Flamers:




Hahaha, Go flamer go!

#7 Burktross

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 06:45 PM

When I saw your nova in I died laughing.
Salutes, friend, for I dub thee, the fireworks man of the battlefield!

#8 WILL WORK FOR AMMO

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 06:51 PM

View PostMrPrezident, on 18 March 2015 - 06:09 PM, said:

What is your opinion on flame throwers? Is it an underrated weapon to you? Is it good in any way?


Totally underrated, novas mixing in flamers with lasers and MGs reach massive DPS with the addition of blinding and shutting down entire weapon systems at the cost of range. Unfortunately, some professional dissenting tryhard competitive players do not agree and now I'm on some KOS list or something to the point of TK at round start, as they see flamer builds as trolling (I can only assume that they justify the TK for this reason).

Underrated but not something that will work out until the community's attitude about flamer builds changes.

Edit: Also, it looks pretty.

Edited by WILL WORK FOR AMMO, 18 March 2015 - 09:26 PM.


#9 Baron Blitz Fokheimer

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 06:58 PM

When you think about the concept of the weapon's design, it should actually be producing zero heat for the one using it. It should also be susceptible to gravity effects, have residual burn damage/heat, and have ammo (that can explode). Enough with the nonsensical TT rules for things that don't need them.

#10 SPencil

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 09:18 PM

Flamers have always been a bit of a joke in MW:O



I can't use them, my frame rate tanks and my laptop overheats before my mech does. Carefully watch the hunchback in that vid...

#11 RedDevil

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 10:15 PM

So I see you were unable to get any kills or assists, and only 175 damage. It seems they are pretty underwhelming....

#12 Aethon

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 10:24 PM

View PostWILL WORK FOR AMMO, on 18 March 2015 - 06:51 PM, said:


Totally underrated, novas mixing in flamers with lasers and MGs reach massive DPS with the addition of blinding and shutting down entire weapon systems at the cost of range. Unfortunately, some professional dissenting tryhard competitive players do not agree and now I'm on some KOS list or something to the point of TK at round start, as they see flamer builds as trolling (I can only assume that they justify the TK for this reason).

Underrated but not something that will work out until the community's attitude about flamer builds changes.

Edit: Also, it looks pretty.


You and your buddy did not post any significant damage numbers in the matches I have played with or against you. You brought a pair of Novas with nothing but 12 Flamers and 4 MG's, died, and did very little. Your results, combined with your names, lead people to assume they are trolling alt accounts. The highest damage I have seen you post in those Novas is approximately 150.

This is probably why people are TK'ing you.

#13 Xetelian

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 10:42 PM

Just got a flamer as a prize I'll have to practice this.

#14 MrPrezident

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 10:50 PM

View PostSPencil, on 18 March 2015 - 09:18 PM, said:

Flamers have always been a bit of a joke in MW:O



I can't use them, my frame rate tanks and my laptop overheats before my mech does. Carefully watch the hunchback in that vid...


Nice video! Dem fps drops tho >.<, Still, Righteous flames! and nice raven insta-gib :P

#15 WILL WORK FOR AMMO

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 11:18 PM

View PostAethon, on 18 March 2015 - 10:24 PM, said:

You brought a pair of Novas with nothing but 12 Flamers and 4 MG's, died, and did very little.


Wrong, I brought 6 flamers, 4 SLs 2SPLs and 4MGs.
As for performance, at that point in time we were still adjusting to the build, tactics, areas, and situations to avoid. Our current builds and experience with them let us be a bit more flexible and consistent.

E:

View PostAethon, on 18 March 2015 - 10:24 PM, said:

The highest damage I have seen you post in those Novas is approximately 150.

A match you were in (you can see your name partially cut off):
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Edited by WILL WORK FOR AMMO, 19 March 2015 - 01:02 PM.


#16 Aethon

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 11:37 PM

View PostWILL WORK FOR AMMO, on 18 March 2015 - 11:18 PM, said:


Wrong, I brought 6 flamers, 4 SLs 2SPLs and 4MGs.
As for performance, at that point in time we were still adjusting to the build, tactics, areas, and situations to avoid. Our current builds and experience with them let us be a bit more flexible and consistent.


Well, either you or your buddy had 12 flamers in at least one of the matches; what you brought the other times, I did not care enough to remember.

#17 Weeny Machine

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 11:46 PM

When I mastered my Firestarters I fooled around with some builds. One of those had 3 flamers. Anway to make it short:
In LRM Valley we had an intense fight and I knew I didn't get out of the situation. So I used my flamers on a KC. He gave me a full alpha. I went down...and he blew up from too much heat. Doing quite some damage to others mechs + killing a pristine KC with a tiny firestarter made my day ^^

Point is: Flamers can be fun and situational useful

#18 Kmieciu

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 11:55 PM

I would swap 6 flamers for 6 TAGs!

#19 Vassago Rain

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 01:04 AM

Flamers are useless. Anyone who tells you otherwise is playing a cruel joke on you.

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 02:44 AM

175 damage is pretty pathetic for 12 weapons considering you can score 500+ damage in a 2xMPL SDR-5V.





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