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[Joseph Mallan]

Alright. As Joe Mallan, Member of the Battle Corps Legion I eventually drive a Stone Rhino. So I Broke down and modified a Dire Wolf to be a variation of my Stone Rhino Its not an exact reproduction, but will do. I'll likely swap Large Pulse and PPCs to see which I like better.

[Armorine]

Yes we need the rhino!

[KamikazeRat]

Stone Rhino has Gauss in the ST, and LPL in the arms. and a smpulse in the chin, but you did qualify that it wasn't a faithful replica. Stone Rhino
There's a faithful replica for those curious, a real one would probably not have the locked DHS in the ST, and the extra ammo from the arms could go in the ST. Top mounted gauss would make this thing pretty effective.

But, we will probably never get any closer than this....the Stone Rhino is technically unseen. Not from HG, but in the fallout they removed any outside art and that was one of the victims. So PGI probably won't make one. Which makes me sad. My first look at battletech was that beauty on the front of a TRO.

Also: it would look goofy in MWO, as the two gauss rifles fire from the same barrel, the art wouldn't look right with dynamic hardpoints, IMO. im sure alex would do a wonderful job making something that looks like a Behemoth.

Edited by KamikazeRat, 21 March 2015 - 07:29 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Joseph Mallan, on 21 March 2015 - 04:00 AM, said:

Alright. As Joe Mallan, Member of the Battle Corps Legion I eventually drive a Stone Rhino. So I Broke down and modified a Dire Wolf to be a variation of my Stone Rhino Its not an exact reproduction, but will do. I'll likely swap Large Pulse and PPCs to see which I like better.

Traitor!!!! Get in your Zeus or Atlas, or trade that Blue Fist in for a Rainbow Brite Sunburst!

[Zordicron]

This mech is on my short list of stuff I want in the game, sitting right next to the Kodiak and just behind the Supernova. All three, are not omnimechs.

Step one: PGI has to figure out how to make "not omnimechs" for clans. IMO, they aren't even considering this right now, which makes me sad. It is understandable though at the same time as clan weapons on a customizable chassis would be akin to allowing IS mechs the use of clan weapons. Basically, it opens a giant can of worms to balance.

Step two: this mech in particular, it has a central mounted giant gauss weapon. How does one make a hitbox model for this, as the twin gauss of the mech fire through one barrel? Do they count the barrel as ST? Split the thing right down the center for hitbox? IMO it would be difficult to model hitbox for.

Step three: Alex, and everyone else at PGI would have to be VERY careful how they go about this. I would hate to see PGI closed down because the entire staff was executed for treasonous incompetence.

[Ultimax]

I'll assume you don't want something asymmetric and want your Gauss in the arms specifically, if not there is this:



I made a few tiny changes to your build.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...796eb8a1e57c6aa


It has the same ammo, one extra heatsink.


The gauss ammo is split into half tons to fill up your crit slots, and pad those areas - should you get critically hit there it slightly helps reduce the chance of losing the Gauss and instead losing a half ton of ammo.


It also spreads the ammo around a bit, so if you lose an entire arm - you still have ammo in the head & possibly STs to support the remaining Gauss.

I think you'll find 2x CLPLs + 2x Gauss to run very cool, you can think about dropping 1 ton of ammo, 1 DHS and adding 2x CERMLAS for a much larger alpha.

[Paigan]

Joseph Mallan, on 21 March 2015 - 04:00 AM, said:

Alright. As Joe Mallan, Member of the Battle Corps Legion I eventually drive a Stone Rhino. So I Broke down and modified a Dire Wolf to be a variation of my Stone Rhino Its not an exact reproduction, but will do. I'll likely swap Large Pulse and PPCs to see which I like better.

The model of the Stone Rhino / Behemoth clearly shows three giant guns. They can only be assumed to be Gauss Rilfes as nothing else would be that large on a 100tonner.
Why the sometimes moronic BTech guys use it for a 2xLPL in the arms and dual Gauss in the torso is beyond me.

Even beyonderer me is, why you would call your linked run of the mill DWF a Stone Rhino approximation.
It is NOT.

Let me fix it for you:

According to primary variant:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a9a6c998fa75997

According to model:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f1b06bd5c1d2a51

Edited by Paigan, 21 March 2015 - 10:16 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Paigan, on 21 March 2015 - 10:14 AM, said:

The model of the Stone Rhino / Behemoth clearly shows three giant guns. They can only be assumed to be Gauss Rilfes as nothing else would be that large on a 100tonner.
Why the sometimes moronic BTech guys use it for a 2xLPL in the arms and dual Gauss in the torso is beyond me.

Even beyonderer me is, why you would call your linked run of the mill DWF a Stone Rhino approximation.
It is NOT.

Let me fix it for you:

According to primary variant:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0491935ac448079

According to model:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f1b06bd5c1d2a51

I'll call it what I want Thank you.

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The design featured Large Pulse Lasers in each arm, twin Gauss Rifles in the torsos fired through the dorsal barrel, and an almost superfluous Small Pulse Laser located just below the cockpit. The Stone Rhino also sported an interesting feature; each arm contained a retractable, shock-absorbing cowl covering the weapon barrels. This allowed MechWarriors to use the arms as battering rams without damaging the weaponry.

K Thanks Bye!

Novice!

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 21 March 2015 - 10:22 AM.

[Ultimax]

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he design featured Large Pulse Lasers in each arm, twin Gauss Rifles in the torsos fired through the dorsal barrel, and an almost superfluous Small Pulse Laser located just below the cockpit. The Stone Rhino also sported an interesting feature; each arm contained a retractable, shock-absorbing cowl covering the weapon barrels. This allowed MechWarriors to use the arms as battering rams without damaging the weaponry.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3c7585a6ea3d67d

Gauss rifles in torso: Check
Large Pulse lasers in Arms: Check
Minimized negative energy quirks: Check
Use of DWF-A Right Arm for Lower Actuator: Check
DWF-S CT for 1 JJ: Check
"Just below the CT" weapon that isn't useless (i.e. upgraded to CERMLAS): Check



Best I can do keeping it as close as possible to that description.

Can strip the TC if you don't want it.

[Joseph Mallan]

Nice, but I like mine cause... it's MINE.

[Ultimax]

Joseph Mallan, on 21 March 2015 - 10:35 AM, said:

Nice, but I like mine cause... it's MINE.

Fair enough, but I thought you might like just a sliiiiightly larger alpha