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[Zeusus]

Chagatay, on 19 March 2015 - 08:41 AM, said:

Actually that would be kinda cool (the idea of different factions, different weights). Steiner could be an atlas/banshee pilots wet dream but conversely has ridiculously high min tonnage requirements that make taking more than 1 light very difficult. Kuritans could have a lighter deck I suppose. Clearly, clans should have the lowest (bidding and all so it would make sense).

Which only works if we all agree that a locust should be a fair match for an atlas, 1v1 and with equal pilots a 50% win rate. Otherwise we have chaos, and horrible balance.

In your example I imagine kurita would cease to exist under the stenier onslaught. Either that or kurita would base rush everything and it would be a borefest.

[Adamski]

Chagatay, on 19 March 2015 - 08:41 AM, said:

Actually that would be kinda cool (the idea of different factions, different weights). Steiner could be an atlas/banshee pilots wet dream but conversely has ridiculously high min tonnage requirements that make taking more than 1 light very difficult. Kuritans could have a lighter deck I suppose. Clearly, clans should have the lowest (bidding and all so it would make sense).

I meant it more as a "Draconis Combine owns half the IS, they get less tonnage for attacking planets because so much of their military is spent defending what they own"

[Tom Sawyer]

I know this thread has gone seriously off track but concerning CW it needs REAL lobbies. This is a game so lets have a lobby system where you click on a attack-able planet you then see the planet name and image across the top. 2 columns on down the screen. One the left attackers, on the right defenders. Maybe a 3rd column for chat type. Everyone can type. Everyone sees who is who. You can join click a tab and make yourself a leader and the using the chat system invite those in the que to join up under you. Be real easy to get a 12 man together. You can then challenge similiar leaders on the other side. Instant 12v12 action with attackers and defenders going at it. No more well we have in our faction unit, lets go wait 15 20 minutes for the pugs to join us sight unseen. No more 12 man pre-mades roflmao stomping 12 hodgepdoge groups.

[Zeusus]

The part I quoted didn't mean it like you did Adamski.

The quote I commented on sounded to me like blanket "Steiner is known for drop lances full of fatlas so they always have +25% tonnage" kind of thing. Regardless of size.

[RoboPatton]

Again, I think the two should be merged some how. Every skirmish, base cap, etc, should count towards something in CW. Not sure how that fits into the "clan vs IS" thing PGI. Maybe no planets could be won in this way, but honor could still be brought to the house you represent. w/e.

Easier said than done, I know.

[CocoaJin]

Your cookies ain't enough so now you want complain about somebody else getting cookies...it's not like you can't have some of those cookies too.

[BARBAR0SSA]

Adamski, on 19 March 2015 - 02:31 AM, said:

Seriously PGI, CW is still in BETA, and its balance and maps need a ton of work, why are you putting 40% of the event rewards behind it when 90% of your player base have voted with their game time saying it is not ready yet.

I've spent hundreds on this game, and I rarely touch 12 v 12, the mode is a joke filled with even more bad players. There's no worry about running out of ammo, no tactics, both sides could literally sit at spawn and no one loses....bleh. Most of the players dumping money in supporting the game I have a feeling are playing CW

[Bigbacon]

shad0w4life, on 19 March 2015 - 09:52 AM, said:

I've spent hundreds on this game, and I rarely touch 12 v 12, the mode is a joke filled with even more bad players. There's no worry about running out of ammo, no tactics, both sides could literally sit at spawn and no one loses....bleh. Most of the players dumping money in supporting the game I have a feeling are playing CW

I spend money and I don't touch CW...I bet most aren't if only 10% play CW. I suspect most of the money comes from others...going by the percentages.

[Almond Brown]

El Bandito, on 19 March 2015 - 02:45 AM, said:

Well, free stuff is free. If you do not wish to play CW then you do not have to. People who actually do try to do some group activities should be rewarded.

And in fairness to PGI, if I have to get 30 points in 1 Mech in Pub, why doesn't a CW Match, in which I get 4 Mechs, not require 120 points to get a Prize? I read CW only needs 80 points????

So in essence, PGI has already reduced (gave a bonus to) the requirements for a point of CW, and we can assume that would be in lieu of "some extra" time oft being required.

So that 10% - 90%? or 30pt - 80(120pt)? It is all quite confusing really. LOL!

[Almond Brown]

Divine Retribution, on 19 March 2015 - 03:34 AM, said:

Ok less dense. Let us be fair, as you want it.

stuff

Seems reasonable to me. How about you? How many that refuse to play CW do you think would be upset at the reality of fair rewards?

Match times vary wildly. You want FAIR? Then you get to ask for 4 Pulls per CW Match BUT each of those 4 Mechs MUST achieve a Match score of 30 points. Now that would be totally FAIR!

[BARBAR0SSA]

Bigbacon, on 19 March 2015 - 09:59 AM, said:

I spend money and I don't touch CW...I bet most aren't if only 10% play CW. I suspect most of the money comes from others...going by the percentages.

Have you spent $500+ like many of the people in CW though, remember I lot of founders etc bought on the premise of community warfare and were up in arms about the lack of it being delivered etc. That's the only reason I even bought a few of the wave packs and wave 3.

Going in 12 v 12 and wrecking new players giving them ammo to scream this is OP or that is OP on the forums really isn't my idea of fun.

[Scyther]

Actually, 100% of the usual rewards are given in the PUG queue, and 66% FREE BONUS awards are granted for playing CW.

[Chagatay]

Zeusus, on 19 March 2015 - 08:49 AM, said:

Which only works if we all agree that a locust should be a fair match for an atlas, 1v1 and with equal pilots a 50% win rate. Otherwise we have chaos, and horrible balance.

In your example I imagine kurita would cease to exist under the stenier onslaught. Either that or kurita would base rush everything and it would be a borefest.

It is mere conjecture. It would lead to different core tactics for each faction. I also realize it would be a real headache to balance if that would even be possible.

But more to the OP. CW has been neglected the last few welfare handouts so it is nice that it is included more in this one.

Edited by Chagatay, 19 March 2015 - 10:20 AM.

[Hospy]

I would imagine it's to encourage you to play CW.

They're handing out free stuff for playing and now you're asking for more?

[Pjwned]

You could just choose to not play CW and still get plenty of free rewards.

[Mystere]

Tom Sawyer, on 19 March 2015 - 08:58 AM, said:

I know this thread has gone seriously off track but concerning CW it needs REAL lobbies. This is a game so lets have a lobby system where you click on a attack-able planet you then see the planet name and image across the top. 2 columns on down the screen. One the left attackers, on the right defenders. Maybe a 3rd column for chat type. Everyone can type. Everyone sees who is who. You can join click a tab and make yourself a leader and the using the chat system invite those in the que to join up under you. Be real easy to get a 12 man together. You can then challenge similiar leaders on the other side. Instant 12v12 action with attackers and defenders going at it. No more well we have in our faction unit, lets go wait 15 20 minutes for the pugs to join us sight unseen. No more 12 man pre-mades roflmao stomping 12 hodgepdoge groups.

"you go to war with the army you have ..." - Donald Rumsfeld

[Sean von Steinike]

Adamski, on 19 March 2015 - 02:31 AM, said:

Seriously PGI, CW is still in BETA, and its balance and maps need a ton of work, why are you putting 40% of the event rewards behind it when 90% of your player base have voted with their game time saying it is not ready yet.

Obviously, because it's an incentive to boost participation.

[CygnusX7]

Is this a more for me thing?
My my my... What we have come to.

It's a free tournament.

[MrZakalwe]

Is there no end to the things people will whine about? Every game mode gets the same rewards but this is somehow unfair?

The stupid.. it hurts..

[Strykewolf]

Well...uh...it's all free stuff and, if you don't want to play a mode then, don't play it. <<shrugs>>

Edited by Strykewolf, 19 March 2015 - 12:20 PM.