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Assault Pilots Do You Fear Lights?


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#1 Davegt27

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:07 PM

I only have the one free Victor but it’s such a hunk of junk it makes me wonder about the rest

Of the Assault Mechs (excluding the DW of course)

The question for today, Assault pilots if your alone and a light (fire starter let’s say) finds you
Do you say mmmmm meat or do you say oh crap?


#2 Dirkdaring

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:11 PM

Hate lights in my dire wolf. A single cicada can take 2-3 times more damage than fighting a medium or a heavy.

But when I'm in my Jager, lights are dead meat.

Edited by Dirkdaring, 22 March 2015 - 03:11 PM.


#3 Something Wrong

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:11 PM

Depends on the build I'm piloting. If I'm piloting a very risky build (eg, 9 ER PPC Dire Wolf) then yes. If I'm piloting any reasonable build, no.

That being said, if I get unlucky with my spawns and the entire light lance swarms me while the rest of my team completely ignore me and use me as a scape goat so they can get away, then yes.

#4 Corbenik

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:11 PM

I say "oh crap" depending on the situation if im constantly fighting without room to breathe then yeah, but if it seems im at the advantage and my bearings are straight and a light pops up with the "oh my I have an easy assault to kill" Hell wind up in the dirty first, had a match in a stalker raven came up thought he was slick and i popped him with a ac 20 one hit ko. Same thing with my gargles popped a few lights with my ac20 but im a good shot so it hit em. lol

#5 Ragtag soldier

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:13 PM

if it's charging me i chuckle and leg it. if it's coming from behind (or a firestarter with lag shielding in full effect) i get pissed off and hope one of my teammates intercepts it so it can't circle strafe me.

and someone tell dirk that cicadas are mediums.

#6 Xetelian

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:38 PM

I'm not good enough to defeat every light that crosses my path, sometimes they just stick to my @#$ like glue.

#7 Impossible Wasabi

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:43 PM

Nope, the Space Pope does not particularly fear them.

Unless he happens to be in a particularly bad position (or outnumbered), light mechs are not a particular issue in an assault mech. However, he feels that this is the case in most mechs, i.e. being attacked in a bad position and having bad numerical disadvantage is never good.

Given the OP's example, of one Firestarter, then no, easy kill in almost every case. Sure, the FS might get some nice shots in, but it doesn't take many decent hits to remove them as a threat (if not outright kill them).

A good or great Assault pilot will make absolute mince meat out of even some of the best Light mech pilots (which is why you rarely see light mechs piloting overly aggressively in serious matches or when good teams/players are playing...because they will get exploded in record time with every imaginable weapon).

Edited by The True Space Pope, 22 March 2015 - 03:49 PM.


#8 White Bear 84

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:45 PM

View PostDavegt27, on 22 March 2015 - 03:07 PM, said:

The question for today, Assault pilots if your alone and a light (fire starter let’s say) finds you
Do you say mmmmm meat or do you say oh crap?


See if you said 'Lights' that would be one story, but mono et mono they can be easy to deal with, direwolfs tend to have the most trouble just cause they are so cumbersome and slow to turn, probably closely followed by stalkers then warhawks.

Generally though, as long as you keep your back out of reach you will last longer. Some notable mentions;

1. Hugiin and Oxide splatmechs; your rear armors worst nightmare, srm alpha's are nasty and can dish out a lot of damage in a short time - perfect for lights.

2. 3L Snipers - My favorite light to run, these mechs are the games biggest pest. You need to keep turning your body to ensure you do not take sustained damage, particularly in vulnerable spots. Be patient - they have to peek to see you so take advantage of that.

View PostRagtag soldier, on 22 March 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

and someone tell dirk that cicadas are mediums.


And Jagers are Heavies :P

Edited by White Bear 84, 22 March 2015 - 03:46 PM.


#9 Impossible Wasabi

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:53 PM

View PostWhite Bear 84, on 22 March 2015 - 03:45 PM, said:

See if you said 'Lights' that would be one story, but mono et mono they can be easy to deal with


Although, this isn't something you argued, what class of mech doesn't the same rule apply to though?

If you are in an light/medium/heavy/assault mech and somehow get jumped by two or more mediums, heavies, or even assaults, you will be forced to pull some tricky shots and show some solid piloting to have a chance.

Edited by The True Space Pope, 22 March 2015 - 03:55 PM.


#10 Rebas Kradd

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:53 PM

I fear them drawing off half my team to chase it.

#11 Novakaine

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:56 PM

Pfft ya gotta kill em before they become a threat.
Novakaine loves lrmin lights.

#12 MechaBattler

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:57 PM

Sometimes it seems as though lights have a dispersion shield that spreads or negates laser damage and even AC shots. Allowing them to weather shots that would destroy a lesser mech.

#13 White Bear 84

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:58 PM

View PostThe True Space Pope, on 22 March 2015 - 03:53 PM, said:


Although, this isn't something you argued, what class of mech doesn't the same rule apply to though?

If you are in an light/medium/heavy/assault mech and somehow get jumped by two or more mediums, heavies, or even assaults, you will be forced to pull some tricky shots and show some solid piloting to have a chance.


The space pope has once again spoken wise words of wisdom. :P :D

#14 Dauntless Blint

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:59 PM

Only when theres more than one

#15 Tennex

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:59 PM

I'm sure some assaults have builds that are terrible for lights.

But not the 2xAC20 king crab...

Hit the leg and side torso and the light is done.. hit anywhere else and you still do significant damage

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 04:01 PM

Since my first mechs I leveled were Stalkers, I learned how to deal with them without the help of arms, so not particularly. One? I can deal with one. More than one? Might as well just shut down and let it happen.

#17 Bobzilla

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 04:54 PM

One isn't a problem.

At best you have 20 tons distracting 100 for a min.

#18 GreyNovember

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 05:18 PM

View PostBobzilla, on 22 March 2015 - 04:54 PM, said:

One isn't a problem.

At best you have 20 tons distracting 100 for a min.



That sounds like a GREAT deal for the light pilot.

Distract a Direwolf for a whole minute with a locust. That's 100 tons of assets not being focused at the majority of the enemy team for 60 seconds.

In that time, an assault hunting light could have cored you out.

And even if they both end up maimed after the fight, it's at most 55 tons of equipment traded for 100.

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 05:21 PM

View PostRagtag soldier, on 22 March 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

and someone tell dirk that cicadas are mediums.

Only technically.

I only fear them if there's more than 1, and really even then only if there's more than 1 and I don't have an AC/20 or a pack of pulse lasers.

My Misery thinks it's cute when they show up, because AC/20 solves problems, unless it's one of the super rare light pilots that don't just circle and can actually stick behind a low-maneuverability assault.

Edited by One Medic Army, 22 March 2015 - 05:24 PM.


#20 FupDup

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 06:32 PM

As with all gundam classes I use, I only fear lights with my assault gundams if I'm damaged or outnumbered. In such cases...I'd be careful around basically any mech type.





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