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#21 Seth

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 02:32 PM

I'm not sure how often the Germans and Russians read these forums. They're the main organized Falcons on during the day.

#22 latinisator

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 09:18 PM

I for my part do read the forums, esp. the Falcon one. Also I have posted in the faction wide in-game chat multiple times to not attack since our planets were under attack. Yet I did not join the attacking forces because Clan worlds were being attacked by FRR and Steiner.

Another problem is PUGs not being able to follow orders or read and/or understand the writings and have little to no sitational awareness.
Defended against Steiner yesterday with another 2 Falcons La Grave (the map was always Grim Portico), assisted by noble Clans Wolf and Ghost Bear. Lots of friendly fire went down, Steiner sniped Alpha gate and some sneaked inside via Beta. Have been asking for assist at Beta, faced a lance of assaults w/TDR alone.
Even an Atlas managed to sneak in! An Atlas. Nobody cared, freshly dropped Mechs just passed Omega being shot by that Atlas.

Clans are getting really uncoordinated atm, which is bad since IS decides to go Stalker rush. Ran into this four times..


Despite of that this Jade Falcon warrior takes pride in fighting for the liberation of the enslaved people of the Inner Sphere to ultimately restore the Starleague and thus will not stop defending our current possessions.

Edited by latinisator, 01 April 2015 - 09:24 PM.


#23 Seth

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 09:31 PM

Attacking is generally easier since you have a greater chance to getting a pug defense team from across the Clans or IS that aren't coordinated. Defending is usually more challenging since the team you are fighting is all from the same faction and has a higher chance of being coordinated. Had some fun defense games tonight ourselves! Come join us on the CJF faction server and group up with other Falcons.

#24 Count Zero 74

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 05:10 PM

Don't worry Falcons, the worst part is over for now. The Mariks dared attacking Skye so the Steiner House Units will be busy dealing with the purple pigeons for some time. Take a rest and rebuild your strength while our veterans from the Clan front show them Mariks what they've learned from a strong opponent

#25 _Comrade_

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 07:48 PM

View PostCount Zero 74, on 02 April 2015 - 05:10 PM, said:

Don't worry Falcons, the worst part is over for now. The Mariks dared attacking Skye so the Steiner House Units will be busy dealing with the purple pigeons for some time. Take a rest and rebuild your strength while our veterans from the Clan front show them Mariks what they've learned from a strong opponent


that's a relief for the 16 or so players that still play CJF

#26 Pat Kell

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 09:20 PM

I fear the threat of a map reset has a fair amount of people taking a break....oh well, if the reset happens, all hell will break lose as people try things out with the new fix going in.

#27 Riyott

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 07:27 AM

CW will never come out of Beta, and the map will never reset. We'll see how well Transverse is doing and MWO will be forgotten again.

#28 Cato Phoenix

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Posted 05 April 2015 - 02:02 PM

Still seeing lots of people dropping attacks on unwinnable planets whilst defendable ones are slipping away. If an attack is 20-40 %, and you see a lot of counter attacks going, and people stacked in defense queues, you should redirect to a planet where you can defend and have a real effect.

#29 Pat Kell

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Posted 05 April 2015 - 07:17 PM

I agree...not sure why people are still attacking...my guess is they aren't in a unit or haven't gotten the message yet. I know 228 has been attacking some but that's ok. It's all going to be wiped anyway. I'm sure that once Russ saw what effect the event had, he will wipe all progress and start over.

#30 Davers

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Posted 05 April 2015 - 07:35 PM

How is this defence strategy working out for everyone? Looking at the Daily Reports, I don't think it is working.

#31 Pat Kell

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Posted 05 April 2015 - 09:54 PM

We haven't been just defending. If you read the earlier posts, you will see that there are still several people and units that only attack and our forces are split. So what we are doing is not working (splitting forces), attacking wouldn't work as the IS outnumber us and can force us into non-stop counter attacks so our only potentially viable option is to defend but it seems there are those who don't want to do that. I am not sure what the other 3 clans are doing but I suspect it's the same there, some people are attacking and some are defending. I would be game for going all out attack mode even though I know that will fail and we will still lose planets because the IS has the numbers to both defend and attack us. Until the 21st, this is all just a numbers game. Once they put in that fix, I am hopeful that things will get better but we'll see. I just hate being the only 12 man group attacking late at night and not being able to do anything because the enemy just fields (2) 12 man groups and locks us into counter attack mode all night.

Also, defending is in some ways more fun because we finally get to face some other 12 man pre-mades and have some really good fights instead of pug stomping...I think it has been making us sloppy :)

#32 Anjian

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Posted 05 April 2015 - 11:08 PM

View PostSeth, on 01 April 2015 - 02:32 PM, said:

I'm not sure how often the Germans and Russians read these forums. They're the main organized Falcons on during the day.


I doubt they read. I tend to play during their times and they are constantly on the attack. And they are damn good at it. Especially the Russians who are fond of rolling their enemies before they even reach the gate.

The one problem with defense is that when you try it, the queue is full of young Bear, Jaguar and Wolf cubs that have absolutely no clue in winning the game. Then they get clubbed even by an average IS pug. Its not hard to see why, after a while, the JF players would go to the attack queue in order to just simply play with other JF players. The sheer difference, even on the same time zone, is like night and day.

Edited by Anjian, 05 April 2015 - 11:16 PM.


#33 Red Legs Greaves

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 01:38 PM

View PostAnjian, on 05 April 2015 - 11:08 PM, said:


I doubt they read. I tend to play during their times and they are constantly on the attack. And they are damn good at it. Especially the Russians who are fond of rolling their enemies before they even reach the gate.

The one problem with defense is that when you try it, the queue is full of young Bear, Jaguar and Wolf cubs that have absolutely no clue in winning the game. Then they get clubbed even by an average IS pug. Its not hard to see why, after a while, the JF players would go to the attack queue in order to just simply play with other JF players. The sheer difference, even on the same time zone, is like night and day.


I have to agree with this, Jade Falcon pugs are way better then the rest you get when defending. Here's an example, last night I had a match with 4 wolves, 4 wolves in a unit by the way. They each dropped with a mist lynx and stood right next to the gate. And insisted everyone else do the same. Most of the competent players stayed back but a few of the other pugs moved up next to them. The IS guys opened the gate, rushed out and killed them all in about 30 seconds. I know we want to keep what we got but only defending to me seems dumb because if we keep getting crappy pugs from the other clans chances are we're going to loose them anyways.

#34 KinLuu

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 10:29 AM

The falcon is on the hunt again.

Maybe the OP should be edited.

#35 DaisuSaikoro Nagasawa

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 11:07 AM

Sirs, I must ask you to look at the dates of these threads.

This action was before the week long clan event where CJF managed to push IS back and some rogue elements took on CW and pushed them back.

Right now our numbers are diminished again but CJF has been still pushing forward steadily.

#36 buryingbeetle

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Posted 08 June 2015 - 04:06 AM

View PostPat Kell, on 30 March 2015 - 09:32 PM, said:

By attacking, you are allowing Marik, Liao and Davion to send units to defend the planet we are attacking.



Hahahahahahaahahahahahaha

Liao defending Steiner and FRR worlds. Nice joke. Nope, we'll only help Kurita (if its urgent) and attack Davion.

#37 Pat Kell

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Posted 08 June 2015 - 11:43 AM

Yea....saw plenty of Liao pilots defending Steiner worlds but that's neither here nor there...With the recent changes to how drops are figured and the upcoming patches to drop zones in order to make this game more "fair" I am recommending a complete and total assault. I highly recommending not defending any planet until your current attackable planet has been secured. Do not defend, only attack. That is my recommendation and I am sure that the rest of KCom will be behind me, please join us.

#38 KinLuu

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 08:12 AM

View PostPat Kell, on 08 June 2015 - 11:43 AM, said:

please join us.


Which TS do you use?

#39 UltraMek

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 12:26 PM

ts.clanjadefalcon.com is the open CJF TS server (I think KCom usually at least has a rep in there if they are on)

#40 Starwulfe

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 09:24 PM

View PostKinLuu, on 09 June 2015 - 08:12 AM, said:


Which TS do you use?


KCom uses the ComStar NA server as our primary TS, na1.mech-connect.net.
And as UltraMek said, we usually have someone posted on the Falcon TS.

Edited by Starwulfe, 09 June 2015 - 09:26 PM.






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