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[mogs01gt]

Abisha, on 09 April 2015 - 10:42 AM, said:

face it this mech need that little more awesomeness.

so i thought have about adjust it's Torso Yaw atm at elite it's 78
i think it's fair if the Misery gets 90 (elite) after all it's not that competitive mech
and it do cost real money to get this mech.

It really does need more Torso twist to allow the mech to truly excel. The mech is almost perfect.

Abisha, on 09 April 2015 - 11:18 AM, said:

also wanna point out this infamus 6 LL build i never ever seen anyone ever used a build like that.
likely something from a fairy tail. must be a unicorn build i never seen it.
like 6 large lasers is anything in particular good......and above all it's not even logical while you can fit 2 SRM that out preform dps wish.

I run it......I prefer 4LL+2ML since my Stalker isnt elited but LLs are nasty suckers when people dont twist.

Edited by mogs01gt, 09 April 2015 - 12:13 PM.

[Ultimax]

Yes! Yes! Please buff my Misery.

AC 20 velocity & CD quirks!
LPL Range and CD quirks!



It is in desperate need of help!

Edited by Ultimatum X, 09 April 2015 - 12:24 PM.

[Abisha]

Ultimatum X, on 09 April 2015 - 12:24 PM, said:

Yes! Yes! Please buff my Misery.

AC 20 velocity & CD quirks!
LPL Range and CD quirks!



It is in desperate need of help!

while you at it why not 15.000 armor.
overexercising do not becomes you.

[Deathlike]

All I can say is... if the Misery ever got the torso twist range that the 3F got... it would be a meta of its own.

The low torso twist keeps it in check, although the Misery having 5 extra degrees of separation (from the rest of the regular variants) was always curious from the start... probably only due to the ballistic hardpoint being in the left torso.

[Asrrin]

Abisha, on 09 April 2015 - 11:34 AM, said:

unlike many here i have good kill death rate.
i think that's why i not see this unicorn build. ever being used in Solo drops.



o.0 serious people alpha fire... LOL go play you got a lot to learn son.

you are an ignorant troll.









That is all.

[Soul Tribunal]

Abisha, on 09 April 2015 - 11:00 AM, said:

that's just so much nonsense.
the kingcrab is better in virtual any possible way. and even got a smaller mesh.

Okay first, lets stick to the same weight class before we go all (this is better than that). The Stalker has some of the best Hitboxes in the game for an Assault. It needs to have its weakness (movement limitations) to keep it in check. It can just Soak Damage before going down. Its actually the Mech chassis I got my Ace of Spades in because the other team just could not put me down vs the damage I could put out.
If I could yaw, twist and such to an even greater extent on all the chassis line it would be a little to powerful in my eyes.

On another topic that you posted, the 4N is a LL boat. You stated putting SRMs on it because thats better....well...no. LL's Let you keep things at arms lengths. High Mounted energy points let you expose less chassis. Sure, some stalkers can brawl a bit, but when you can melt your enemy at range...why would you??

I'm good with fixing broken chassis or making improvments on underperforming ones, but not okay with trolling to make a strong mech even better.
-ST

[InspectorG]

Stalker N is IS Lazorvomit. Ridgehumps like a Boss Hog. Doesnt brawl as well.

Misery is the corner peek/ brawler. Has a whole deadside. If it has no cover, Crab/Whale would likely crush it assuming meta loadouts and competent pilots. If it has cover, should win a decent % of the time.

[One Medic Army]

Doesn't even need to be a 4N really, I was dominating in my 5M and 3F during the big CW event, fighting IS vs clans even.

Stalkers in general have the perfect combination of frontal profile, high weapon mounts, and sides that can shield amazingly with a little twisting. They can be pretty darn fast and maneuverable with a 300std, while still fitting endosteel, a bunch of energy/missile weapons (+ a ballistic on the Misery), and have enough room to spare for massive numbers of heatsinks.

An atlas will brawl better, a crab will DPS better, but stalkers are the Inner-Sphere assault king of peek-n-poke.

[ShinobiHunter]

Misery is probably the single best P2W argument in the game ATM... I don't see any buffs coming it's way. I wouldn't complain if it got better torso twist, but it doesn't need any help right now.

[Escef]

Sir Wulfrick, on 09 April 2015 - 11:12 AM, said:

The King Crab makes everything except a dire whale look manoeuvrable.

That's based entirely on how one builds it. My preferred KGC-000(L) build is a 325 engine, endo steel, 608 armor, 3 extra double sinks, 2xML, 2xLRM5 (1 ton ammo), and 2xAC20 (7 tons ammo). (EDIT: Also has CASE in the left torso, along with one of the heat sinks and all of the ammo that I couldn't fit in the head or legs.) It's as fast as most Atlas builds, has good torso twist, and has proven that in a knock-down, drag-out fight it can put down a dakka-based Dire Wolf.

As for the Misery, I recall that when it first came out people where screaming about it being P2W. And because of that I made it a point to hunt them down in my HGN-733C. Those were vicious fights, and no matter who won, the victor was not in any shape to screw with anybody else. The Misery is just the combination of the Stalkers good hitboxes with the possibility of a single big ballistic. (I've actually seen people ignore the ballistic and just run the Misery as a quad LL money maker.)

Edited by Escef, 09 April 2015 - 06:46 PM.

[Typhon27]

Considering the amount of attention (concern?, respect?) a Misery usually receives from the opposing team, I would say it is just fine.