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[Zolaz]

Just wondering if anyone knows a date for Clan Wave mech Heros dropping?

[Will9761]

Clan Heros Mechs are on the backburner for a long while.

[Lord Perversor]

Hero Clan mechs shouldn't be anything different that just a fancy color check and C-bill bonus.

As example Aidan Pryde Mad cat was just
2x ER LL
2x ER ML
1x ER SL
2x LRM 20 and 4x JJ a build easily obtainable on any current madcat mech.

[Stealth Fox]

Juodas Varnas, on 13 April 2015 - 11:11 PM, said:

cute

Omji Pods are not omni, They refuse to balance things via battle value instead of weight. They leave IS mechs broken for the longest time when they got their quirks, but made several drastic changes to clan mechs once people started crying "OP needs Nerfs", They refuse to give some of the worst clan mechs any sort of useability. Refuse to treat weapons like they where in every other .. you know.. functional and good game MW has had on computer. Kicked their vaunted and promised Role Warfare in the nuts and left it in the just back in Beta, Have left Light mechs to be broken as hell and better brawlers then the actual brawling mechs, refuse to make Jumpjets good again because.. reasons, PPCs are broken because... reasons, Clan Cannons are garbage because reasons, ACs do not work the way they should at all because reasons. Made the game on an engine entirely dedicated to blowing up stuff (hello!..the Crysis series?), wrecking terrain and effecting your play levels, and yet we have zero world feed back in matches.. because.. reasons..

If I'm to fricken Salty (Which means experienced and battle proven in the military, so go ahead and call a vet that) it is probably because I have enough Salt in my Shaker to cover a 6 course meal of problems.

[Mcgral18]

The Malthus Summoner is in...and they gave us the C for the resistance variant (which is absolutely identical to another) instead of a torso mounted E hardpoint....so that's a potential one.



As is the Widowmaker Direwolf.


Both are in the gamefiles, and add some new stuff. 2E CT on the Whale.

[Zolaz]

Will9761, on 13 April 2015 - 10:51 PM, said:

Clan Heros Mechs are on the backburner for a long while.

How is anything that will make PGI money on the back burner?

[Ralgas]

Zolaz, on 14 April 2015 - 12:35 AM, said:

How is anything that will make PGI money on the back burner?

Has to be spaced out, otherwise you lose sales through wallet fatigue. After the next pack or 2 timeline approriate mechs become rather scarce, then look for them to push a lot more hero's

[B L O O D W I T C H]

there's also a 3 energy sidetorso for the timberwolf in the gamefile. i'm expecting it to be a part of the "operation: cash grab" mechpackage.

Edited by LOADED, 14 April 2015 - 12:48 AM.

[Mcgral18]

LOADED, on 14 April 2015 - 12:47 AM, said:

there's also a 3 energy sidetorso for the timberwolf in the gamefile. i'm expecting it to be a part of the "operation: cash grab" mechpackage.

Yeah, but that's the standard A variant, not a Hero.

I quite like the sound of 3 ERLLs 6 SPLs.

[Paigan]

Me needs Warhawk with JJs . Me pay good money for it.

[B L O O D W I T C H]

Mcgral18, on 14 April 2015 - 12:52 AM, said:

Yeah, but that's the standard A variant, not a Hero.

Same arms and legs as the Invasion variant, so 30% "clan" hero for sale. that's what i'm assuming.
Invasion variants are clan heros, no matter how you look at them. cash only, locked camo, 30% c-bill boost, unique geometry.

At least clan heros invasion'mechs do have a c-bill counterpart.


(and lets be honest, 3 high mounted energy hardoints on a freaking timberwolf are just way to good to not sell them, pgi would be incredibly stupid to not make a pretty coin ot of that design.)

Edited by LOADED, 14 April 2015 - 01:35 AM.

[charov]

There's only one hero that I totally want to see: Vlad Ward's Executioner.

Quote

www.sarna.net/wiki/Executioner_(Gladiator)
Vlad Ward used an Executioner with twin Gauss Rifles, two Large Lasers and four Medium Pulse Lasers

Which is, basically, the only way to get rid of the hardwired components and mount more weapons on the Executioner because, with 8t of JJ and 4t MASC there's not way to mount all those weapons.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Clanners aren't heroes. Maybe Villain Mechs?

[Stealth Fox]

MeiSooHaityu, on 14 April 2015 - 02:21 AM, said:

Clanners aren't heroes. Maybe Villain Mechs?

The houses are not any better. Bombing each other into the Stone age? Lostech because they where to stupid to set up rules of War and know not to attack some key things that where beneficial to mankind. The clans intentions was to race to terra, reclame it then rule the Houses and stop the wide spread waste and destruction, in their own ways.

You have to remember, The Houses got so bad the original Star League told them to go screw them selves and left, becoming the clans..

[B L O O D W I T C H]

Seph MacLeod, on 14 April 2015 - 02:35 AM, said:

The houses are not any better. Bombing each other into the Stone age? Lostech because they where to stupid to set up rules of War and know not to attack some key things that where beneficial to mankind.

That's actually comstar's doing.

[bad arcade kitty]

i want joanna's hellbringer or mad dog, she is probably my favorite clanner for some reason :3
aiden should get a summoner not a mad cat, he disliked mad cats

btw, i just recalled, she had a mech with a name albeit it was rare for clan pilots, she named her hellbringer 'ter' because she hated ter roshark

proof (from 'legend of jade phoenix 2'):

"Then it is time to get into the cockpit and get old Ter going."
Ter was Joanna's name for her 'Mech. Few Clan warriors
bothered to name their 'Mechs, although it was said to be a
fairly common practice among Inner Sphere warriors. Nomad
understood that she had named the 'Mech Ter after their
former commanding officer, Falconer Commander Ter Roshak,
but he had no idea why she would have wanted any reminder
of that grumpy, excessively mean warrior. Nomad sensed that
Joanna found some kind of vengeance or perversity in the use
of the name, but he did not know what it was.

proof it was a hellbringer:


Joanna was in the cockpit now. Ter was in shadow, but he
could make out the Hellbringer's hulking shape

Edited by bad arcade kitty, 14 April 2015 - 03:20 AM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Seph MacLeod, on 14 April 2015 - 02:35 AM, said:

The houses are not any better. Bombing each other into the Stone age? Lostech because they where to stupid to set up rules of War and know not to attack some key things that where beneficial to mankind. The clans intentions was to race to terra, reclame it then rule the Houses and stop the wide spread waste and destruction, in their own ways.

You have to remember, The Houses got so bad the original Star League told them to go screw them selves and left, becoming the clans..

Spoken like a true clanner. Whatever helps you sleep at night .

As a Smoke Jaguar, you especially have no soap box to stand on. The committed terrible atrocities against the civilian populations of the worlds they occupied.

Since Smoke Jaguar was the absolute worst of the offenders, that is why they were targeted for destruction first by the new Star League.

In all reality though. There are no "good guys" in Battletech lore. Everyone is some varying degree of terrible.

Even if you wanted to remotely try and argue that any Clan was good for the IS, it sure as hell wouldn't be Smoke Jaguar. The best choice would be Clan Wolf (Warden) or Clan Wolf in Exile after the Refusal War.

Basically anything Warden and NOTHING Crusader.

[Jetfire]

Zolaz, on 14 April 2015 - 12:35 AM, said:

How is anything that will make PGI money on the back burner?

Will only make them money if done well and they do not have the time to spend as CW is top priority.

[Throat Punch]

MeiSooHaityu, on 14 April 2015 - 04:43 AM, said:

Spoken like a true clanner. Whatever helps you sleep at night .

As a Smoke Jaguar, you especially have no soap box to stand on. The committed terrible atrocities against the civilian populations of the worlds they occupied.

Since Smoke Jaguar was the absolute worst of the offenders, that is why they were targeted for destruction first by the new Star League.

In all reality though. There are no "good guys" in Battletech lore. Everyone is some varying degree of terrible.

Even if you wanted to remotely try and argue that any Clan was good for the IS, it sure as hell wouldn't be Smoke Jaguar. The best choice would be Clan Wolf (Warden) or Clan Wolf in Exile after the Refusal War.

Basically anything Warden and NOTHING Crusader.

Battle of Turtle Bay is that what you're referring too? One commander going to extreme measures to control a conquered populace that was rebelling and committing terrorist acts (DCMS)?

But in all seriousness, all the wars between the Great Houses (Succession Wars) are what caused the technology of humanity to be lost to almost everyone outside Comstar (who was rushing to catalogue and save the information). Its why the Great Houses had to go through Comstar for intergalactic communication via the HPG's because it was lostech to everyone else. Kerensky was sick of the wars between the Houses so he took the Star League Defense Force and left the core worlds for unknown space, basically saying "**** it, you want to destroy each other, have at it, peace out" forming the Clans. Were the Clans perfect...some ways yes, some ways very much no. But remember it was a Clanner, and a smoke Jaguar at that, who gave the IS the edge to defeating the Clans and the route down the Exodus Road.

Edited by Mors Draco, 14 April 2015 - 05:07 AM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Well, Turtle Bay and the attempted destruction of the IS through nuclear warfare (if Mechcommander: Desperate Measures is taken into account).

Also, Kerensky running away from the IS and taking 40% of the Star League with him can also be seen as cowardice and Treasonous. His action definently killed any chance of the Star League keeping the house's ever expanding influence in check plus indirectly caused the creation of ComStar. A religious cult that withheld technology and medicine from the remainder of the IS. Heck, the ultimately created the Word of Blake and started a Jihad against everyone.

Kerensky was a failure to the Inner Sphere. His exodus ended in war and destruction (another failure). It took his son to end the fighting by creating a messed up warrior cast cult bent on genetic tinkering (his last failure).

Like I said, no good guys in BT.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 14 April 2015 - 05:26 AM.