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[Ant0nm]

Is this a troll?

[Dagger6T6]

meks r siriuz biznez

[Aegic]

There are no tiers.

[GrizzlyViking]

Mongooser, on 02 July 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

The end game of WOT consisted of a part of the world map in which clans could hold territory and earn free gold for doing so.(gold in WOT could be bought with money, but not earned in game, unless in clan wars) Gold is what is used to buy the premium vehicles and premium “rounds” that penetrated armor a lot better at range but did not do more damage then the rounds you could buy with in game coin. Of course this was a massive money maker for the game as you had to defend your territory daily and EVERYONE used “gold” rounds for the fights. So win or lose the gold rounds were expended and were replaced. Is this the same plan for the end game of MWO? If so, consider the fact that you will have clans of very highly skilled gamers that will dominate the map, this caused quite a few problems as casual gamers simply got waxed every night and held, if anything, meaningless territories.

Based on the information we currently have and the information you already mentioned, there will not be any super Mechs, weapons, GOLD rounds, etc. in MWO. Think of it more like bowling. If you have the best ball and the best shoes and a more skilled player matches up against you with rental shoes and rental ball, he will still win because he knows his stuff. What you can buy in MWO will be like that. It may be shiny and easier for people who have money to get, but that guy that works hard with his F2P account will have access to the same practical stuff (Mechs, weapons, skills, etc.) as the pay players, it will just take him a bit longer to level his skills up and be able to afford multiple Mechs.


As for the "end-game" this seems to be a common question with WoT players. I do not see MWO or any other MechWarrior title playing out in this way. Mostly, MWO has more of a match-by-match/ladder/ranking mentality than an "end-game" mentality. It is for this reason that the "end-game" is more about the end of each match than it is about some subjective big picture end of the game experience. That said, I don't really think there is an "end-game" for MWO like that found in WoT and other games like it. Think of it more like playing Madden. Two teams matching up against each other to see who is the best. Today team 'A' may win, but tomorrow team 'B' or another team. New Mechs and New technology will be added over time and there are many many options that will be added. All players will have access to the same Mechs and technology. No advantage can be purchased other than the ability to gain XP faster. XP will decay over time for those who are inactive, so to be the best you have to keep playing. This doesn't even take into account the planetary warfare system and the various other game modes that will be developed over time. MWO is mostly about the competition to be the best and to be the best here will require skill in game as well as well organized tactics much like a sports team prepares for their rival. There is an end game in most sports about once a year for a championship, and then all the focus moves on to next year's championship. I anticipate MWO will operate in much the same way in that their will be an "end-game" per match and resets overall with changes to the next era, not a game with no end that progresses exponentially over many years of time. MWO is more about the match, similar to the board game (think Chess), than it is like WoT or any of those other games like it.

Edited by GrizzlyViking, 02 July 2012 - 09:23 AM.

[CaveMan]

SinnerX, on 02 July 2012 - 02:14 AM, said:

A "professional gamer" who plays WoT is like a professional athlete who plays tee ball.

Oh man.... I haven't laughed this hard in a while. Spot on.

I'm not sure which is worse, that these people get paid, or that someone is paying them.

[Shadowreh]

MWO will be eSporty
WOT isn't
you're whalecum

[Adridos]

Buttlord, on 02 July 2012 - 08:26 AM, said:

Anyway, realism != fun.

[realism != fun] != true

Realism can be fun too, mainly because of the immersion.
For example: would you rather play a match of CoD, or go out and play a few matches of paintball?

[Sug]

Shadowreh, on 02 July 2012 - 08:51 AM, said:

MWO will be eSporty
WOT isn't
you're whalecum

I like how i can't say #&@ but whalecum gets through.

[Targetloc]

You guys are all dogpiling on the OP pretty hard, but I see no reason to hate him. He makes some good points, along with some I disagree with, but he's legitimately trying to help the developers here, and the over-all message is a good one.


1) Golden ammo BAD. Bad. Bad Bad. It's P2W.

2) Boosters good. It's the kind of F2P model that doesn't have a negative effect on individual drops. The real in-game experience isn't affected.

3) Continued release of new technology is good. Luckily this is already handled by Battletech lore itself. New and slightly more powerful mechs and equipment will continue to come out over the years, constantly giving players who already 'have it all' something to strive for. Fortunately, there's also always slight drawbacks to the new equipment. So over all ER and Pulse lasers are better than the originals, but they come with slight draw-backs like higher heat or tonnage which stops them from being a massive leap forwards.

4) MORE MAPS. More maps, more game types. Please check out TF2 for some really good ideas on how to vary the objectives in a game. Also, I STRONGLY suggest you release mod tools and let players submit content and maps for monthly voting... Mechwarrior has an INSANE history of ridiculously dedicated players creating patches to add huge libraries of overlooked mechs to the game. Just looke at Mektek or the NAIS group of the MW2:Mercs days.


5) Cosmetic pay items are also good. They don't affect the game-play, but the massive success of TF2's F2P model (Valve has commented they've made significantly more since going F2P than they did when the guy was being sold). People will pay to make their mechs stand out.... let's just... avoid hats for now.


Anyways, thanks for your post, OP.

[Cole Christensen]

Mongooser, on 02 July 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

...the laser graphics they are a horrible and look “1990'ish”...
...I would like to make more comments or ask more questions, but I don't have first hand knowledge of your title...

Oh, so you're saying your suggestions are totally full o' crap?

[Landeraxe]

Seriously; a professional gamer is one of two things (that I am aware of); a game tester, or a cash-prize tournament player. I was a tester; i have my name in the credits of several games (both video games and RPG games). If you're not either, I don't know how you can claim to be a "professional gamer". Maybe you get paid to showcase games at E3? Maybe you run an RPG at various conventions? Back it up.

Bottom line? Spending stupid amounts of cash on games does not make you a professional; if it did, any WoW player could make the same claim.

Edited by Landeraxe, 02 July 2012 - 09:38 AM.

[a rabid chihuahua]

well he did mention something I thought was interesting about how chess is still popular an hasn't changed in over 1500 years or so. BT has been around since the 80's and even if you take away all the updated and added things to the game ,people will play the original sstock rules and equipmnet over and over just like chess,so this game has the same staying potential as chess.

[Kaemon]

Adridos, on 02 July 2012 - 03:17 AM, said:

Someone has to teach him a lesson...

Nothing against him, but he thinks high of himself, but that doesn't make him a game designer .

Kettle...meet pot.

Edited by Kaemon, 02 July 2012 - 09:42 AM.

[Colddawg]

This guy is a troll.

If you're such a hot **** gamer why didn't I see you name in any of the teams that went to the Ural Steel finals?
If you really are as bad *** as you say you are Mongoose than you surely would have been invited to the finals in Moscow, so far being the most pronounced tournament in WoT.

For anyone reading this topic. Have patience, keep an open mind and treat the devs with respect when you offer up your suggestions.

I will tell everyone that I am not a professional gamer. I don't own all the top tanks of every nation. Nor do I go around bragging like that assist in the first post.

Sit back, marvel at how far the game has come since the last MW game, and offer up suggestions to the devs. If you all really want to help make this a better game throw away all factional ties you have when you say that something needs fixed.

See you on the battlefield,
Nate "Colddawg" Rodgers
-Writer of the Welcome To World Of Tanks guide

[Delta Red]

I sincerely hope this guy is a troll. There is more speculation in the OP post than in the OJ trail.

[Dagger6T6]

[PinkamenaDianPie]

Looks like your a Professional Troll, who gets paid with Attention and Rage.

[Illegal Username]

As a DOCTOR OF VIDEO GAMES i believe that Pirahna Games should give me a bunch of money and then do the following changes in MWO:

1. Make players into clanners.
2. Punish breaches of Zellbrigen with temporary bans
3. IS politics are too complicated so the Inner Sphere should be renamed Bad Guys and they should all be swarthy and speak with a corny accent like in 70's detective shows
4. The game needs a j-pop soundtrack






ps. don't do any of those


pps. you can still send me money

Edited by Illegal Username, 02 July 2012 - 10:22 AM.

[LogicalTightRope]

1. Almost everything you've mentioned has been answered before.
2. You know nearly nothing about this game's background, have just got here, and yet claim to know exactly what is best.
3. You proceed to tell the devs exactly what is best.
4. You're asking for a beta key.

All four of those are big no-no's.

Edited by LogicalTightRope, 02 July 2012 - 10:23 AM.

[ORIGINAL SteelWolf]

One he said "world of tanks" i stopped reading.