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[TanE]

I think we don't get an Urbie II C with his own modell as the IS have. But why not Zoidberg integrate the new Urbie for Clan Players, without a new model?

1. Suggestion:
Bring an extra Upgrade "modul" into the Mechlab for Urbies (same area as upgrading the Heatsinks):

- 1 Upgrade from IS to Clan with a fixed Standard 90 Engine (yes, the lore Urbie IIc have a larger Engine!) and
- 1 Ugrade with to a XL180 Engine. In this way we satisfy the stock Mech fans and those who want to be faster, without the Feature/Clanability to swap the engine to max out the Urbie.

By choosing this, all Equiment will be removed from the internals, and only ClanTech can be build in.
This requires, that every UrbanMech have IS and Clanquirks included, so that this didn't have to be changed by upgrading the trashcan.

Maybe a Problem that have to be solved: The Urbie should be able to drive in CW, but there must be an implementation, that MWO identifies an Urbie with "Clanmodul" as a ClanMech.

2. Suggestion:
Mechupgrade by Profile: There could be an own page for the Urbie, that choosen variants could be changed to a preconfigured Stock IIc layout with his own Mech-ID for recognition. Same here: Engine upgrade by "Upgrades" in Mechlab only to a XL180. By this way there aren't any problems to use it in CW. Maybe we would pay for the feature a small amount of $$$ or MC...

As a "community Mech", I think it could get a unique hybrid feature without beeing a game breaker.

New in Dez 2015:
The easy way: Take the same model, change it to IIC ClanTech. That's all folks! Can't believe, that there wold be much resistance, if this cute Mech would work on both sides with different tech.

Edited by TanE, 16 December 2015 - 12:17 AM.

[CHH Badkarma]

To be blunt, I as much as I want IIC variants in the game, I really do not want this to be what starts the cries for mix tech. I say this as I am rather sure once IIC models show up people will start to cry "I want clan tech on my urbi(or whatever model) " I would just like to keep this puretech for as long as possible.

Good ideas though, but all good ideas get beat down by the QQ mob sadly

[Twilight Fenrir]

Or... We could just get the Urbie IIC and have it on the same skill tree as the regular Urbie...

[rolly]

Seyla

[Astarot]

I feel like people are calling for IIC because they feel that clan mechs are over powered, which they arn't. They received heavy nerfs so that they fall under their own specialty role, instead of being better in every way possible. So Innersphere mechs, with clan tech may find themselves running into some serious heat problems. And Second, the Urbanmech IIC didn't come out till the 3070. So even if this suggestion gets accepted. You have a long while to wait.

[Twilight Fenrir]

Astarot, on 15 April 2015 - 11:24 AM, said:

I feel like people are calling for IIC because they feel that clan mechs are over powered, which they arn't. They received heavy nerfs so that they fall under their own specialty role, instead of being better in every way possible. So Innersphere mechs, with clan tech may find themselves running into some serious heat problems. And Second, the Urbanmech IIC didn't come out till the 3070. So even if this suggestion gets accepted. You have a long while to wait.

No... The Urbanmech IIC 2 didn't come out u til 3070,the Urbanmech IIC was made in 2849

We want IIC, because there are a lot of awesome IIC mechs The urbie specifically, is because the Clanners want their Urbie too


There's only one variant of it, but just add the mech in. As far as the skill tree goes, just tack it on as a variant of the regular urbanmech. No one will complain about this.

[Stoned Prophet]

Twilight Fenrir, on 15 April 2015 - 11:32 AM, said:

No... The Urbanmech IIC 2 didn't come out u til 3070,the Urbanmech IIC was made in 2849

We want IIC, because there are a lot of awesome IIC mechs The urbie specifically, is because the Clanners want their Urbie too


There's only one variant of it, but just add the mech in. As far as the skill tree goes, just tack it on as a variant of the regular urbanmech. No one will complain about this.

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Except clanners who refuse to play inner sphere trash just to master their Glorious Urbanmech IIC

[HlynkaCG]

Personally I would rather see IIC variants in game simply as a variant of their parent chassis. IE the HBK-IIC as a variant of the Hunchback and apearing on the Hunchback skill tree. No mix-tech, no "3 variants required" no kludgey module hack. Just another variant for an existing chassis. Heck, lock the engines, locked engines are the price you pay for an XL that don't go "BOOM!" when you loose a torso.

List of IIC variants for mechs that are currently available...

• Commando COM-IIC
  
• Urbanmech URM-IIC
  
• Jenner JR7-IIC
  
• Hunchback HBK-IIC
  
• Orion ON1-IIC
  
• Highlander HGN-IIC

Additional IIC variants that are lighter or heavier than their "parent" chassis

• Locust LCT-IIC: 25 tons (5 tons heavier)
  
• Griffon GRF-IIC: 40 tons (15 tons lighter)
  
• Shadowhawk SHD-IIC: 45 tons (10 tons lighter)
  
• Conjurer (Wolverine IIC) WVR-IIC: 50 tons (5 tons lighter)
  
• Thunderbolt TDR-IIC: 70 tons (5 tons heavier)

Edited by HlynkaCG, 15 April 2015 - 01:56 PM.

[Twilight Fenrir]

HlynkaCG, on 15 April 2015 - 01:44 PM, said:

Personally I would rather see IIC variants in game simply as a variant of their parent chassis. IE the HBK-IIC as a variant of the Hunchback and apearing on the Hunchback skill tree. No mix-tech, no "3 variants required" no kludgey module hack. Just another variant for an existing chassis. Heck, lock the engines, locked engines are the price you pay for an XL that don't go "BOOM!" when you loose a torso.

List of IIC variants for mechs that are currently available...

• Commando COM-IIC
  
• Urbanmech URM-IIC
  
• Jenner JR7-IIC
  
• Hunchback HBK-IIC
  
• Orion ON1-IIC
  
• Highlander HGN-IIC

Additional IIC variants that are lighter or heavier than their "parent" chassis

• Locust LCT-IIC: 25 tons (5 tons heavier)
  
• Griffon GRF-IIC: 40 tons (15 tons lighter)
  
• Shadowhawk SHD-IIC: 45 tons (10 tons lighter)
  
• Conjurer (Wolverine IIC) WVR-IIC: 50 tons (5 tons lighter)
  
• Thunderbolt TDR-IIC: 70 tons (5 tons heavier)

Thunderbolt IIC is 3080, but I believe the rest are alright.

Some of the IIC mechs have standard engines... Really, I think they should he brought in just like the IS battlemechs, with all the options they have, but restricted to clan weapons.

Most of them don't have enough period correct variants, so lumping them in with the IS chassis is a good solution.

[Uh you havent met Stabem]

Hell yes! 56.5.% ........ ummmm gimmic much :

Something tells me there are more worthwhile mechs to create that would see actual use

[TanE]

Now, that we have the first IIC Mechs, the Doors are wide open for Urbie IIC!!

I changed the first posting to the new possibilities!

Edited by TanE, 16 December 2015 - 12:18 AM.

[VinJade]

the IIC came out in 2849 not 3070.
the IIC 2 came out in 3070.

the IIC is armed with an (C)UAC 10 & (C)ER Small Laser.

as to those who don't want mixed tech, the only IS tech is the frame everything else is Clan so there should be no problem in including this.

people need to do their homework before saying anything.

Edited by VinJade, 02 April 2016 - 03:28 AM.

[Aleksandr Sergeyevich Kerensky]

Urbie iic!!

[RhynoD]

Stoned Prophet, on 15 April 2015 - 01:25 PM, said:

Except clanners who refuse to play inner sphere trash just to master their Glorious Urbanmech IIC

The UrbanMech is pre-Exodus. It is not Inner Sphere trash, it is Star League tech. A trueborn Clansman mocking a venerable mech design used in the Star League? Borderline blasphemy, if you ask me.

[Zephonarch II]

Okay, first and for most... if you must get the IIC Urbanmech, try out the Jenner IIC with an XL100. Then put 4LPLs on it. Or 4ERPeepcs. But in the mean time... wait you greedy Clanners. THIS IS OUR URBIEBABY! STAY PURE YOU "TRUE"-BORNS!!
But you can cope:

I mean the B33f made the ERPeepc DireStar a thing
FantasticTuesday made the Urbie-Spider with an AC10....
Now we can make an Urbie-"Star".
Before we even get the URB-IIC.

Seriously, you have an Urbie-Star available to you. Stop pouting.

Edited by Zephonarch II, 04 April 2016 - 09:05 AM.

[VinJade]

though lets be honest with Russ's clear disdain for clan tech and a IS tech lover who seems to get the hots for IS stuff, I don't see this happening any time soon.

[Dee Eight]

You guys forgot the Phoenix Hawk IIC at 80 tons, the Warhamster IIC also at 80 tons, the Marauder IIC at 85 tons. Rifleman IIC at 65 tons.

[Kurbeks]

Urbie

[VinJade]

@De
I still question the PHawk, Warhammer, ect becoming over weight counterparts instead of becoming slimmer counter parts like the others.

[Mole]

I'd love to see the Urbanmech IIC released as its own mech with its own skill tree and its own model. However, there are unfortunately only two variants of the Urbanmech IIC and this game is built around requiring at least three. I don't think we'll ever see it, unfortunately.

Edited by Mole, 06 April 2016 - 03:04 PM.