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#21 NocturnalBeast

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 02:50 PM

MSI has the best reliability to cost ratio, my 680GTX Twin Frozr has been running MWO for me for over two years now.

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 03:18 PM

I run my Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Ti with no issues... lots of airflow in my case, plenty of power, card doesn't get above 150F for temp even while playing MWO, or War Thunder or Farcry4 or BF4. All stuffed into a midsized ATX Coolermaster tower (out of stock... likely not for sale anymore)... I plan on getting a larger case to increase my room for hardware upgrades and cooling.

PC: Win7x64 | i7-3770K 3.5GHz | Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Ti | 8Gb Gskill RAM | ASUS Z77-A | HX1050w | etc...

I use MSI Afterburner to control my GPU fans depending on the load being put on it I have several profiles for various games and software.

But... OP... check your thermal pasting as many have mentioned so far... I had to replace mine once since it's purchase.

#23 Telmasa

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 06:24 PM

MSI Afterburner allows my old 550 ti & i5 (3570 I think?) to run MW:O at high specs (I run mid just for more stability, though, loading areas as I go through a map can make it 'skip' sometimes).

I used to have temp-related problems too, then figured out my fans actually are supposed to speed up if my computer is getting hotter...which, for whatever reason, they weren't. (Yeah yeah, common sense, right?)

With MSI afterburner installed, they started working as they were supposed do - and now I have a great tool to customize it just right for maximum noise/performance comfort. Been runnin' all my games on high spec (skyrim!!!) without issues.

Edited by Telmasa, 21 April 2015 - 06:25 PM.


#24 crustydog

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 07:14 PM

I have built thousand, if not tens of thousands of Personal Computers.

From the standpoint of a builder, the most important factor is failure rate.

You do not want to build the same computer twice.

You do not want to ship the same computer twice either.

As far as mainboards go, ASUS has had the lowest failure rate by far... well ahead of any other PC manufacturer.

It is a very rare thing to find a bad ASUS board.

It is worth the extra price, every penny.

ASUS knows how to build a mainboard.

This does not mean other ASUS products are built to the same quality.

#25 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 22 April 2015 - 10:07 AM

View Postcrustydog, on 21 April 2015 - 07:14 PM, said:

I have built thousand, if not tens of thousands of Personal Computers.

From the standpoint of a builder, the most important factor is failure rate.

You do not want to build the same computer twice.

You do not want to ship the same computer twice either.

As far as mainboards go, ASUS has had the lowest failure rate by far... well ahead of any other PC manufacturer.

It is a very rare thing to find a bad ASUS board.

It is worth the extra price, every penny.

ASUS knows how to build a mainboard.

This does not mean other ASUS products are built to the same quality.


When your going to advertise for a company it is wise to cite your sources so people know it's validity.

#26 Grendel408

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Posted 22 April 2015 - 11:45 AM

View PostDV McKenna, on 22 April 2015 - 10:07 AM, said:


When you're going to advertise for a company it is wise to cite your sources so people know it's validity.

When you are going to berate someone, use spell check ;)

as for crustydog... yeah, ASUS board are great, worth the money generally... but they are just as susceptible to hardware failure as any other board... I've had ASUS board blow caps or have the SATA ports fail inexplicably without reason... and their tech support is atrocious <_<

#27 Lord Letto

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Posted 22 April 2015 - 11:57 AM

If ASUS Boards are so good, Then Feel Free to Check out this "Bad Egg": http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID=

#28 Grendel408

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Posted 22 April 2015 - 01:09 PM

Perfect example, Lord Letto :D Not every piece of hardware from a brand name manufacturer is always great stuff... even Intel, AMD... and Gigabyte, MSI and many others suffer their own issues. It's finding the right piece of hardware for the components being applied to it. You don't need to build a PC designed around just ASUS or Corsair or MSI or Gigabyte, etc... it can be the most mixed up system with hardware brands from all over the globe and still be a badass PC when built up.

#29 Jody Von Jedi

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 07:48 AM

OK, messed with the fan curve again. Made it even more aggressive. Ran a few matches Tuesday night and never got above 90c.

When I noticed the really high temps before, I had been playing CW for a couple hours. I'll have opportunity to check it again over the weekend. I'm sure I'll be playing a lot with the event going on. I'll update this thread then.

Jody

#30 Jody Von Jedi

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 09:30 AM

Just looking at a couple boards on Amazon:

EVGA GTX-960

vs

Asus GTX-960

For MW:O, would a 4GB card be worth the 40.00 difference?

EVGA GTX-960 4GB

#31 Goose

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 09:34 AM

I don't remember if we've heard what screen size needs more then 2GB in MW:O, so, strictly speaking, no; But other games that do need moar are the new normal, so you might want to do it, anyways …

#32 Metus regem

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 09:44 AM

View PostJody Von Jedi, on 20 April 2015 - 03:18 PM, said:

My GPU (GTX 650ti) is hitting 100C playing on medium levels now. It will crap out on me occasionally, and crash to desktop or reboot.

I'm considering a GTX 960 as a replacement.

I've owned EVGA mostly, but would consider MSI, Asus, or Gigabyte branded.

Any advantage of one over the other brand?



http://www.tomshardw...eview,3107.html

A great place to see how all GFX cards stack up against each other...

My home system runs MWO at 1080p with no graphical slowdowns...

FX 8320
8GB DDR 3 1866
R9 270X 4GB card

#33 Jody Von Jedi

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 09:54 AM

View PostGoose, on 23 April 2015 - 09:34 AM, said:

I don't remember if we've heard what screen size needs more then 2GB in MW:O, so, strictly speaking, no; But other games that do need moar are the new normal, so you might want to do it, anyways …


My display is 27" 1080p. From what I read here, 4GB doesn't really benefit 1080p. My existing card is just a 1GB card, so I would see a benefit regardless.

View PostMetus regem, on 23 April 2015 - 09:44 AM, said:



http://www.tomshardw...eview,3107.html

A great place to see how all GFX cards stack up against each other...

My home system runs MWO at 1080p with no graphical slowdowns...

FX 8320
8GB DDR 3 1866
R9 270X 4GB card


Yep, I've been all over Tom's Hardware site for years. They still rank my i5-2320 as a top tier processor! It's near the bottom of the list, but still top tier. That was surprising!

#34 Deathlike

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 10:02 AM

The answer is easily eVGA for me.

However, you can always look at other solutions and see how their cooling compares from other/multiple websites.

Don't get too hooked into brand loyalty as things can change. If things work out, it makes sense to continue supporting the manufacturer that provides solid solutions/answers.

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 10:19 AM

View PostDieGruneMorder, on 20 April 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

Skip the 960 and spend a little more for the 970....its a way better deal per dollar...almost 2x. All the brands you named are great. I just got a Giga 970gtx windforce and besides the length of the card it is the most impressive piece of computer hardware i have ever purchased....worth every penny. :-)


Yeah, never buy a card without consulting this chart. It's under "performance" on Nvidia's site on every card's page:

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#36 Metus regem

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 10:47 AM

View PostJody Von Jedi, on 23 April 2015 - 09:54 AM, said:


My display is 27" 1080p. From what I read here, 4GB doesn't really benefit 1080p. My existing card is just a 1GB card, so I would see a benefit regardless.



Yep, I've been all over Tom's Hardware site for years. They still rank my i5-2320 as a top tier processor! It's near the bottom of the list, but still top tier. That was surprising!



Well i5's are good, I was trying to shave a bit out of the price tag for my home system a year or so ago, so I went AMD for the processor, almost the same performance, for about 2/3rds the price of the i5... And I'm a fan of my R9 270x, it's got lots of head room in it's power, and since it's the X model, I can always over clock it later if I find she starts to lag too much, but for now, I'm not playing anything that pushes my system at all...

Hell I do half my gaming on my GE60 Leopard by MSI... but I can't run MWO at 1080p on it... but anything else she just powers through...

Edit:

I should add that my home system is hooked upto the 42" LCD TV at home... so yea, looks really good in 1080p...

Edited by Metus regem, 23 April 2015 - 10:47 AM.


#37 Jody Von Jedi

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 07:41 PM

Well, maybe I was just paranoid. Played some CW tonight. Never got above 81c. I did notice something similar to what Telmasa said about not having his video card utility, Afterburner, not running. Sometimes, Precision X doesn't launch at startup. This could have been my issue all along. :unsure:

GPU usuage was 99% percent when I was playing though. FPS drops in the 30s sometimes, but is usually in 40 to 50 range. I guess I'll keep what I have for now.

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 08:05 PM

There's a whole mess of tunnings to explore before you spend money …

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Posted 24 April 2015 - 03:23 PM

View PostJody Von Jedi, on 23 April 2015 - 07:41 PM, said:

Well, maybe I was just paranoid. Played some CW tonight. Never got above 81c. I did notice something similar to what Telmasa said about not having his video card utility, Afterburner, not running. Sometimes, Precision X doesn't launch at startup. This could have been my issue all along. :unsure:

GPU usuage was 99% percent when I was playing though. FPS drops in the 30s sometimes, but is usually in 40 to 50 range. I guess I'll keep what I have for now.

That's simply because MWO is not optimized, GPU usage being up really high in-game (about 40-50% in loading screens), FPS drops around smoke/steam, etc.

Try adjusting your graphics settings, if on High, set to Medium... adjust your video settings until you get a good FPS level that shouldn't dip too much during some nasty brawls where it would normally tank on.

edit: Turn Particle Effects on low, disable motion blur... ensure Vsync is turned off too

Edited by Grendel408, 24 April 2015 - 03:24 PM.


#40 Jody Von Jedi

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 06:59 AM

Played CW heavy all weekend, 8 hours on Sunday and never got above low 80s. I'm pretty sure now, Precision X must not have been running. So fan control was non existent.

Thanks for the help!

Jody





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