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#1 Navid A1

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 10:32 PM

I ran the repair tool a couple of days ago to mitigate that 5 hour patch time.

Now my cockpit glass is back on and gp_option_ShowCockpitGlass=0 does not work anymore in my user.cfg (or game.cfg in the new USER folder.)

anyone else having the same issue?

#2 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 10:34 PM

View PostNavid A1, on 20 April 2015 - 10:32 PM, said:

I ran the repair tool a couple of days ago to mitigate that 5 hour patch time.

Now my cockpit glass is back on and gp_option_ShowCockpitGlass=0 does not work anymore in my user.cfg (or game.cfg in the new USER folder.)

anyone else having the same issue?

Yup. Though it doesn't appear to be on all mechs. Some of my older ones seem fine, but all my newer ones, liek my Resistance mechs, have it on.

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 10:35 PM

stephen king, sometimes they come back

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 11:15 PM

Try to copying user.cfg to game folder also...

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 11:16 PM

View Postbad arcade kitty, on 20 April 2015 - 10:35 PM, said:

stephen king, sometimes they come back

Sometimes, the old patch is betta.....

#6 Xetelian

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 11:16 PM

I play with it on and I think everyone should also have to play with it on.

Lots of games would ban you for doing something like this.

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 11:32 PM

View PostXetelian, on 20 April 2015 - 11:16 PM, said:

I play with it on and I think everyone should also have to play with it on.

Lots of games would ban you for doing something like this.


PGI specifically either gave us or endorsed the option due to performance hits it can cause

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 12:20 AM

View PostNavid A1, on 20 April 2015 - 10:32 PM, said:

I ran the repair tool a couple of days ago to mitigate that 5 hour patch time.

Now my cockpit glass is back on and gp_option_ShowCockpitGlass=0 does not work anymore in my user.cfg (or game.cfg in the new USER folder.)

anyone else having the same issue?



I've had trouble with folder permissions before when updating too. So far, 100% the time, the following steps have solved my config file problems (on windows 7 at least).

1) Right click on your Piranha Games folder in program files*, select properties. Uncheck the read-only box. You may have to do this for both the top level directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\Piranhaa Games\Mechwarrior Online\, and the MWO folder within it. I don't know why, man. F**cking technology.

2) Find the systemoverride.cfg file in the MWO folder. Rgiht click>properties, and uncheck read-only. You can then delete the systemoverride.cfg file. (Yes, I know it says "DO NOT MODIFY THIS FILE!" in the header, but really, it's not like your computer will explode if you do.) Do this, and make a backup if you like.

3) Create a new word document on your desktop.

4) Copy-pasta the following into said word document:

r_Driver="DX9"
r_txaa=0
r_msaa=0
r_postaa=1
cl_fov=85
r_DepthOfField=0
r_motionBlur=0
r_HDRGrainAmount=0.0
p_option_ShowCockpitGlass=0
gp_option_ShowCockpitGlass=0

i_mouse_smooth=0
i_mouse_accel=0
i_mouse_accel_max=0

5) Save as systemoverride.cfg (Make sure you save it as a .cfg file)

6) Cut and paste this new systemoverride.cfg file into your MWO install directory.

7) Right click > Properties on your new systemoverride.cfg file and set permissions to read-only. This final step should prevent the patcher from over-writing your cfg file every time you patch.

8) Enjoy playing MWO with graphical setting that aren't actively detrimental to pwnage/fun.

* They said they moved the cfg file to the Mechwarrior Online\USER directory. I don't know what the deal with it is, but I had problems with it, and found that just replacing the systemoverride.cfg file was much simpler than figuring out why my settings wouldn't stick when I used the \USER folder.

Edited by R0B0TULISM, 21 April 2015 - 12:31 AM.


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Posted 21 April 2015 - 12:37 AM

I don't know, I keep them on and I've noticed some 'Mechs have the glass and other 'Mechs don't have it... <_<

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 01:54 AM

View PostXetelian, on 20 April 2015 - 11:16 PM, said:

I play with it on and I think everyone should also have to play with it on.

Lots of games would ban you for doing something like this.


The majority of people are not trying to achieve an edge by making the view more clear. Like most, my system, while midrange, can't tolerate certain effects, including the glass.
It really isn't obscuring, so until they add it as a toggle, there should be a way to turn it off.

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 03:16 AM

View PostXetelian, on 20 April 2015 - 11:16 PM, said:

I play with it on and I think everyone should also have to play with it on.

Lots of games would ban you for doing something like this.


The glass looks terrible, is often lit from INSIDE the mech, and causes performance hits.

It should have been turned offer - permanently - a long time ago.

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 03:45 AM

I do not have a systemoverride.cfg anymore. I do have user.cfg in the normal place and it seems to work finee

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 03:55 AM

I kinda like the glass, especially when i play Viridian Bog and the glass is all dirty and glares. Seriously. I like it. Adds to the immersion.

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 04:03 AM

If mechs had a back that blocked lighting ( cast a shadow inside the cockpit ) it would be ok.

Bog is a bad map for it, lucky cat glows blindingly bright if you turn the wrong way in many parts of the map.

I haven't played since before the repair tool drama and I don't know if i will this weekend either but if glass glows anything like that cat ill just hit alt f4 and write the whole thing off as been no better than those pathetic vision modes on a dark map.

Edited by sneeking, 21 April 2015 - 04:04 AM.


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Posted 21 April 2015 - 04:05 AM

Wait till after today's patch. It might be a necessary "break" for the patch.

EDIT: My FoV hasn't worked for almost two years now.....

Edited by cdlord, 21 April 2015 - 04:05 AM.


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Posted 21 April 2015 - 04:08 AM

View PostXetelian, on 20 April 2015 - 11:16 PM, said:

I play with it on and I think everyone should also have to play with it on.

Lots of games would ban you for doing something like this.


User.cfg options have been intentionally enabled by PGI as non menu options we are allowed to change.

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 04:10 AM

View PostMikeBend, on 21 April 2015 - 03:55 AM, said:

I kinda like the glass, especially when i play Viridian Bog and the glass is all dirty and glares. Seriously. I like it. Adds to the immersion.


Dirty glass glares when you look at the light source not when looking away from it ( reverse lighting is not imersive ) when the light is behind you its your dirty mirrors that should glare ( but seen as mirrors are lost tech ) I guess they thought it was ok.


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Posted 21 April 2015 - 04:21 AM

Oh well, project cars is finally ready anyway.

Perhaps it's time to put the broken robots back in their box and go racing instead.

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 04:33 AM

View PostR0B0TULISM, on 21 April 2015 - 12:20 AM, said:

I've had trouble with folder permissions before when updating too. So far, 100% the time, the following steps have solved my config file problems (on windows 7 at least). 1) Right click on your Piranha Games folder in program files*, select properties. Uncheck the read-only box. You may have to do this for both the top level directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\Piranhaa Games\Mechwarrior Online\, and the MWO folder within it. I don't know why, man. F**cking technology. 2) Find the systemoverride.cfg file in the MWO folder. Rgiht click>properties, and uncheck read-only. You can then delete the systemoverride.cfg file. (Yes, I know it says "DO NOT MODIFY THIS FILE!" in the header, but really, it's not like your computer will explode if you do.) Do this, and make a backup if you like. 3) Create a new word document on your desktop. 4) Copy-pasta the following into said word document: r_Driver="DX9" r_txaa=0 r_msaa=0 r_postaa=1 cl_fov=85 r_DepthOfField=0 r_motionBlur=0 r_HDRGrainAmount=0.0 p_option_ShowCockpitGlass=0 gp_option_ShowCockpitGlass=0 i_mouse_smooth=0 i_mouse_accel=0 i_mouse_accel_max=0 5) Save as systemoverride.cfg (Make sure you save it as a .cfg file) 6) Cut and paste this new systemoverride.cfg file into your MWO install directory. 7) Right click > Properties on your new systemoverride.cfg file and set permissions to read-only. This final step should prevent the patcher from over-writing your cfg file every time you patch. 8) Enjoy playing MWO with graphical setting that aren't actively detrimental to pwnage/fun. * They said they moved the cfg file to the Mechwarrior Online\USER directory. I don't know what the deal with it is, but I had problems with it, and found that just replacing the systemoverride.cfg file was much simpler than figuring out why my settings wouldn't stick when I used the \USER folder.


Would those commands also benefit my user.cfg? I only have the glass turned off and 1 or 2 more lines of said "code".

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 06:04 AM

View PostRalgas, on 20 April 2015 - 11:32 PM, said:


PGI specifically either gave us or endorsed the option due to performance hits it can cause


Frankly I think the reason people wanted it off was other than performance...





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