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[Zordicron]

I looked at this mech in the store for not even kidding, over 5 minutes trying to decide if I should risk my MC on it or not.

RAGRATS

This thing is a ****. I don't even care about the speed, I have made my slow clan lights work fine. It's the lack of hardpoints, the placement of them, and the combination. It's one or two laser HP away from being able to run a laser only support loadout. It is at least one missile HP away from being able to use those as a primary weapon. Lacking HP usually means you put a couple bigger guns on and rely on the bigger punch for game play. But bigger guns means HOT on SIB. A pair of LL is pretty sub par considering what the game is like right now with people running around with 70 point laser barf alphas. I ran it once, with some SRM backup, and found it simply was too big a target without enough firepower to keep the enemy honest. So I tried PPC. No min range, my single ML was pretty inconsequential to the Huggin that rushed me. I tried ERPPC before that, lol no, 60%+ heat fireing a pair of them. 14 tons of PPC leaves no room for DHS with the XL250 installed.


What have people done with this thing to make it work? 3 ML and LRM's and settle for mediocre matches? my next loadout to try will be a single ERPPC, ML, and whatever LRM I can fit, and if that fails(I think it will) I will switch to SRM maybe. Unless someone has an unusual loadout for me to try.

Unless I am overlooking something here, I can not recommend this mech, to anyone for anything. A single laser barf crow is worth a whole lance of SIB's.

[FupDup]

Pretty Babby?

[Zordicron]

Nope, PB at least has speed for an assault and enough firepower to keep little'uns honest. I didn't care for it much when I first got that one, mastered it with a very wierd loadout, but that was before quirks and anything else that happened to the chassis.

I dropped in 4 matches with SIB and I have nothing but sour grapes for it so far.

Quick EDIT: uh, Google is viewing my thread right now. Is that a thing? I have never seen that before. Just noticed it under the reply box.

Edited by Eldagore, 24 April 2015 - 08:06 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Anansi?

[FupDup]

Mcgral18, on 24 April 2015 - 08:05 PM, said:

Anansi?

I call it the Anusi.

[Zordicron]

Mcgral18, on 24 April 2015 - 08:05 PM, said:

Anansi?

lolwut? Dat berserker spider mode...... I averaged 400 dmg matches with it when I got it, and I only have it to half way elited.

[Juodas Varnas]

But you gotta admit - It looks pretty sweet.

[Alistair Winter]

I think it's been Death's Knell for a while now. Pretty Baby has been dethroned after the quirkening.

Death's Knell doesn't have Spider hitboxes.

[Mcgral18]

Have you tried something like this?
ST. IVES' BLUES

Or perhaps
ST. IVES' BLUES

The Arrow gets nice enough air with 4.

[FupDup]

Alistair Winter, on 24 April 2015 - 08:23 PM, said:

Death's Knell doesn't have Spider hitboxes.

http://mwomercs.com/...x-localization/

The hitboxes aren't that far off, it's just that the Commie is a bit more squat while the Spider is skinnier/lankier.

The real issue with DK is that it's 25 tons (second worst place to be in the Battletech construction system) instead of heavier, perhaps also not having JJ access. Sub-250 engine limit doesn't help...

However, it also gets better hardpoints than any Spider, for whatever that's worth (almost everything in the game has better hardpoints than Spiders).

Edited by FupDup, 24 April 2015 - 08:45 PM.

[TercieI]

Alistair Winter, on 24 April 2015 - 08:23 PM, said:

I think it's been Death's Knell for a while now. Pretty Baby has been dethroned after the quirkening.

Death's Knell doesn't have Spider hitboxes.

Oh, heck no. TDK is fun and can work. IV-Four gets my vote. What a stinking pile.

[Damocles]

Loup de what

[Mavairo]

Loup De Guerre I think is probably the worst.

Pretty Baby gets honorable mention for second. It's an AWS...seriously. That's all that needs said there.

[MonkeyCheese]

I gotta vote for the st ives too.

I regretted buying it so much that i never bothered to get another 2 vindicators

It is just a joke lrm vomit mech now.

[Foxwalker]

Sorry, the Loup is a pretty good mech. I do well in mine.

http://i.imgur.com/0kmyA0i.jpg
or
http://i.imgur.com/NF2zRt3.jpg

I also like the other Vindicator's with the nice PPC quirks. For some reason they made the quirks on the Vindy Hero somewhat lacking. I would not buy it either.

[Cyborne Elemental]

I know I had a really hard time in my Loup De Guerre, my Arrow on the other hand is still going strong.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

The X-5 is up there in contention for worst hero (mostly due to lack of dynamic geometry), but at least it has speed I guess.

[Ursh]

Put 2xLRM15 on the X5 and you can stream LRMs like a clan mech!

[Soy]

My heros...

Death's Knell
Anansi
St. Ives' Blue
Jester
Heavy Metal

dealwithit.jpg

[Adamski]

The SIB has subpar hard points, geometry, and quirks.
You can make it work with 2xLL 2xSRM4 1xML but it will not be doing enough damage to scare anything but a locust, and wont run fast enough to be able to get away from a Centurion or Hunchback