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LordKnightFandragon, on 08 May 2015 - 06:31 PM, said:

CERPPCs get 1050ms, PPC get 950, AC20s get like 650? I dont even wanna know the velocity they would give a Longtom.....200ms? You would need to aim at max elevation to fire the gun 50m....and at a moving target? forgetaboutit....

They aren't for use on moving targets, though, they are for forcing the enemy out of cover without needing a lock. Would have been a great solution to pop-tarting instead of the patchwork of weapon, chassis, and JJ nerfs.

[Ovion]

Lucinator, on 08 May 2015 - 06:13 PM, said:

Light PPC's were available at the current time we are at, and those could see some use in CW and team battles as a anti ECM from long range.

No, they are not.

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The Light PPC is a smaller version of the Particle Projector Cannon. Introduced by the Draconis Combine in 3067, it is often compared with the ER Medium Laser as it shares damage, heat, and lack of ammunition dependency. The Light PPC is heavier and more bulky, though it does have a longer range profile, albeit with the deficiency of a minimum range. Overall, it's a light and long-range weapon, but not a replacement for the Medium Laser or ER Medium Laser

We're at 3050/3052

[Brody319]

I would love some new weapons, but unfortunately the time we got seems to avoid all the really cool toys.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Inferno LRM's/SRM's.

Nothing like setting a mech on fire with napalm and watching the pilot roast.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Knight Magus, on 08 May 2015 - 06:24 PM, said:

Really? If that's the case isn't it time to shut down and start over?

Youd think

Yeonne Greene, on 08 May 2015 - 06:29 PM, said:

Wouldn't make sense, since the UAC/5 doesn't operate that way and they would also weigh way more/be bigger than the Clan options. An IS UAC/40 KGC might be properly terrifying, but also extremely hot. Two UAC/10 on a Jagermech would be pretty amazing, though, until somebody smart shoots out the side torso. Would also run somewhat hot.

Honestly, I don't even want the Ultras, though. I want the Light AC options, so I can put two LAC/2 on my Arrow and not have to really crunch on ammo.

Id like the RACs Light/heavy gauss too XD

[Destoroyah]

They need to at least get the rest of the IS LBX and Ultra series and IS Streak 4/6 out sometime soon.
Maybe even IS ER smalls and mediums.

Edited by Destoroyah, 08 May 2015 - 10:45 PM.

[zagibu]

Blazers and mech mortars could fill niches.

[Ovion]

Destoroyah, on 08 May 2015 - 10:42 PM, said:

They need to at least get the rest of the IS LBX and Ultra series and IS Streak 4/6 out sometime soon.
Maybe even IS ER smalls and mediums.

Inner Sphere versions of following weapons became available in year:
UAC2 - 3057
UAC10 - 3057
ERSL - 3058
ERML - 3058
LBX2 - 3058
LBX5 - 3058
LBX20 - 3058
SSRM4 - 3058
SSRM6 - 3058
UAC20 - 3060
- Current year - 3050-3052


Weapons available to the IS currently that we don't have though:
Energy:
Binary Laser Cannon

Ballistic:
Grenade Launcher
Light / Medium / Heavy Rifle

Missile:
Rocket Launcher 10 / 15 / 20
Mech Mortar 1 / 2 / 4 / 8

Artillery:
Arrow IV Artillery_Missile
Thumper Artillery Cannon _Ballistic
Long Tom Cannon _Ballistic
Sniper Artillery Cannon _Ballistic
Thumper Cannon _Ballistic

We could feasibly have Null Signature Systems on certain IS mechs, and Triple Strength Myomer, potentially as an upgrade for any IS mech.



And Clan:
Ballistic:
Anti-Personell Pods

AMS:
LAMS

Artillery:
Arrow IV Artillery _Missile

Edited by Ovion, 09 May 2015 - 04:47 AM.

[Novawrecker]

How could you forget about MRMs? 'Sammatahwifj00?!?!

[Ovion]

Novawrecker, on 09 May 2015 - 04:49 AM, said:

How could you forget about MRMs? 'Sammatahwifj00?!?!

3058

Edited by Ovion, 09 May 2015 - 04:53 AM.

[Mercules]

Hit the Deck, on 30 April 2015 - 02:55 PM, said:

IMO, only MGs and Flamers which are "bad" because from what I understand, they actually aren't anti mech weapons so PGI has to make them viable but they (or we) just can't.

This myth needs to die. They are anti-mech weapons that get a bonus against infantry. That is what anti-infantry means, not, "This doesn't hurt mechs." A MG should do as much damage to a mech as an AC2. Flamers should do damage or heat depending on their setting.

Kyocera, on 30 April 2015 - 04:03 PM, said:

While it's nice to use lore, TT and timelines etc, we really have to ask ourselves what use does it have in a multiplayer computer game? For the sake of purism, are we just gimping ourselves for no good reason?

There is a large number of players who would not play this game if it was not Lore based. PGI is PAYING for the IP they might as well use it to retain those of us who want to play Mechwarrior and not Generic Mecha Battle. For all we know part of the rights to the IP might state they can't move too far out of it like making up brand new weapon systems. Now PGI could jump the timeline but I think they want to slowly introduce weapons.

[Sjorpha]

From a gameplay perspective I think we need a ballistic and energy options in the 3-4 tonnage range, so that lighter mechs with few hardpoints could be less at a disadvantage. In addition to that there needs to be some kind of missile and energy option heavy enough to be worthwhile in single hardpoints on big mechs.

I don't know lore much, so I'll leave it to those who do to propose which timeline appropriate weapons could fill those gaps.

[TheArisen]

As has been stated, we're currently a few lore years away from more goodies. We have a couple things now but pgi is reluctant to add the binary laser. Pgi really should add new weapons, there are mech variants they could add as well, if only they added the rest of the in timeline weapons alone. Even more so if they advanced the timeline.

[TheArisen]

Sjorpha, on 09 May 2015 - 06:07 AM, said:

From a gameplay perspective I think we need a ballistic and energy options in the 3-4 tonnage range, so that lighter mechs with few hardpoints could be less at a disadvantage. In addition to that there needs to be some kind of missile and energy option heavy enough to be worthwhile in single hardpoints on big mechs.

I don't know lore much, so I'll leave it to those who do to propose which timeline appropriate weapons could fill those gaps.

There's the Binary laser as an extra large laser option (it's 2 large lasers put together basically)

We're a few years away from light ACs.

[Ovion]

TheArisen, on 09 May 2015 - 06:17 AM, said:

There's the Binary laser as an extra large laser option (it's 2 large lasers put together basically)

We're a few years away from light ACs.

But we can have Mech Rifles now.

Short range, low ammo per ton, but in the low tonnage range.
Would be good for light mechsl.

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Mechwarrior Buddah, on 08 May 2015 - 10:29 PM, said:

Youd think



Id like the RACs Light/heavy gauss too XD

I am struggling to visualize how the RAC would work in this game. Get three shots per cool-down? Make it auto-fire those extra shots like the UAC use to?

[FupDup]

Yeonne Greene, on 09 May 2015 - 07:47 AM, said:

I am struggling to visualize how the RAC would work in this game. Get three shots per cool-down? Make it auto-fire those extra shots like the UAC use to?

It would probably have to be burst in some way...because the board game function of being a hexa-tap AC/2 or AC/5 would be kinda crazy (mostly for the latter), especially if they had frontloaded projectiles like our current IS ACs do (RAC/5 is 12 tons but can do 6x5 damage...).

Maybe turn them into giant miniguns that have to be spooled up to fire, kinda like MWLL?

[LordKnightFandragon]

Yeonne Greene, on 08 May 2015 - 06:41 PM, said:

They aren't for use on moving targets, though, they are for forcing the enemy out of cover without needing a lock. Would have been a great solution to pop-tarting instead of the patchwork of weapon, chassis, and JJ nerfs.

I have seen them avail in Mechcommander 2 and I just find them a waste of space. MWO they would be huge, heavy, slow, few shots.....and on what? Your Atlas? What other mech could even carry it? Weapons like that are best left not in game....its almost like a gimp build.

[Y E O N N E]

Well, there's no point to them now that pop-tarting isn't a thing (except for Panthers and Vindicators), but they would have been useful back when it was.

Also, a MechMortar/4 is only 7 tons. I could comfortably fit one on a Blackjack and still have fantastic, cool-running laser firepower without even mounting an XL.

[FupDup]

Yeonne Greene, on 09 May 2015 - 08:27 AM, said:

Also, a MechMortar/4 is only 7 tons. I could comfortably fit one on a Blackjack and still have fantastic, cool-running laser firepower without even mounting an XL.

Mech Mortars are classified as missile-type weapons though, not ballistics. :\