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[LordBraxton]

I love my PC, and have no regrets going AMD\Radeon rather than the pricey intel\NVidia options.
　
I have an 8core 4.0ghz processor and a 3g7770, 8g of ram etc. etc. It's a solid rig going on two years old, and runs everything flawlessly. EXCEPT for MWO.
　
Any tips on running MWO on AMD hardware? It looks like it's only using like 1 of my 8cores. This game is so terribly optimized it makes me weep.

[Vassago Rain]

PGI has to fix it. That's the only cure.

[Wolfwood592]

Im running nearly the same setup except 16gb of ram(Crucial Ballistix) with the 8350 and GTX 750

Using the 64 bit client I have no issues running this game on Very High with an average of 50fps

EDIT: with Shadows on low

Edited by Wolfwood592, 09 January 2015 - 03:04 PM.

[Rhaythe]

It is terribly optimized, and even more-so on any architecture that isn't the i5/i7 platform. Honestly, I did everything I could to optimize my framerate on my 8-core Phenom. I never saw any *real* improvements until I upgraded to an i7.

Some tips that might help, though:

*) Turn off shadows. Just don't even bother.
*) Turn off antialiasing. If you must have it on, run it through the Radeon control center and override application settings. It seems to work better than the built-in AA.
*) Run textures at highest quality while keeping object models at medium. For me, that's the best balance of high-poly vs high-texture that still looks great.
*) Run post-proc effects at medium. The game doesn't do much with it beyond that, and it does help your framerate somewhat.

[Mercules]

LordBraxton, on 09 January 2015 - 10:32 AM, said:

I love my PC, and have no regrets going AMD\Radeon rather than the pricey intel\NVidia options. 　 I have an 8core 4.0ghz processor and a 3g7770, 8g of ram etc. etc. It's a solid rig going on two years old, and runs everything flawlessly. EXCEPT for MWO. 　 Any tips on running MWO on AMD hardware? It looks like it's only using like 1 of my 8cores. This game is so terribly optimized it makes me weep.

It runs better on Intel Cores. You know that pricey intel option? Sometimes you get what you pay for. Having the SAME discussion on the DayZ SA forums with so many people complaining about how the game runs worse on AMD CPUs. Note, not GPUs, the CPUs.

I use Intel CPU (because slightly higher price = much better performance) and AMD GPUs (because comparable priced nvidia is not as good).

If you haven't used the 64 bit client try it... assuming you are on a 64 bit OS.

Oh and I just triple checked and the game is utilizing all 4 of my cores.

Vassago Rain, on 09 January 2015 - 10:34 AM, said:

PGI has to fix it. That's the only cure.

Not really, people could actually run games on gaming rigs and not what tigerdirect pre-assembled as a budget gaming computer. With a few tweeks it should run on the OP's rig IF he can utilize the 64 bit client which expands what the game can access.

Edited by Mercules, 09 January 2015 - 11:53 AM.

[Peter2k]

the game is not well optimized, period
I bet Far Cry 4 would run well enough on OPs machine

Alexander Garden promised the HUD would get improvements performance wise (since this has to be proven a fps hog)

beyond that?
I have not heard of a miracle cure

OC the hell out of it
particles down all the way, shadows maybe

graphics wise it wouldn't really matter (textures, AA etc.) except if you're driving really high resolutions
its the CPU holding you back


and by the way, every patch decreases performance for me still (by a small margin, its like 1-2 fps every patch)

[Thorqemada]

Windows:
Energy Settings to High Performance

MWO:
64Bit Client Dx11
Reduce Resolution if necessary

VSync = Off
Blur = Off
Damage Glow = Off

Effects = Medium or Low
Particle = Low
Shadws = Medium or Low

Disable Cockpit Glass:
http://mwomercs.com/...86-29-apr-2014/
The following configuration variables have been exposed for tuning in your user.cfg file. To add these to your user.cfg file navigate to C:\Program Files (x86)\Piranha Games\MechWarrior Online (or your custom installation location) and if it doesn't exist, create a file user.cfg containing these settings as desired. Don't forget to set the value desired.

gp_option_ShowCockpitGlass=0
r_DepthOfField=0
r_HDRGrainAmount=0.0

There are more detailed tunings but this is already good enough and does not demand advanced knowledge.

[Lily from animove]

2 years? have you did any system maintenance routines? defragging, cleaning tools and so? this does often also help after a lot of time.

[Zypher]

I am at the point where there are no longer CPU or GPU bottlenecks, peak at most on any core is about 50%, most cores beyond core 0 cap at like 25-30%, my GPU is barely being used.

Compared this to the recent dragon age with which I am seeing all cores hit about 35-50%, high GPU load at times, but no lag.

I still occasionally see MWO drop into the 20s. I could understand this if either the CPU or GPU pegged out, I would have to agree this game is not optimized. Once you get an i7 good luck getting it any better.

Only thing I can recommend is getting an SSD, that way you are usually still alive when you reconnect from a crash to desktop.

Edited by Zypher, 09 January 2015 - 01:02 PM.

[Mercules]

Zypher, on 09 January 2015 - 01:02 PM, said:

I still occasionally see MWO drop into the 20s. I could understand this if either the CPU or GPU pegged out, I would have to agree this game is not optimized. Once you get an i7 good luck getting it any better.

Something has to be bottlenecking you. Motherboard maybe?

[Rhent]

If you are running Windows 7 you can force Windows to use all cores by default. Again, this requires the program to be set to use multi-core to get the main benefit from it. Windows 8 uses all cores by default, but Windows 8 blows goats.

http://www.tech-reci...s-on-windows-7/

[CocoaJin]

Rhent, on 09 January 2015 - 01:05 PM, said:

If you are running Windows 7 you can force Windows to use all cores by default. Again, this requires the program to be set to use multi-core to get the main benefit from it. Windows 8 uses all cores by default, but Windows 8 blows goats.

http://www.tech-reci...s-on-windows-7/

That's a lot of happy goats!

[Vxheous]

Your rig is not anywhere near Killer, AMD 7770 is the upper end of a low end graphics card at best (and that was when it was released) Your AMD 8 Core's single core performance is sub-par, nothing you can do will fix what is ultimately a hardware issue for you. Yes, MWO is horribly optimized, but in your case, you simply do not have the horsepower.

Edited by Vxheous Kerensky, 09 January 2015 - 02:25 PM.

[LT. HARDCASE]

Put everything on Low, except Object Detail, Environment, and Texturing, with AA off.

Edited by Kevjack, 09 January 2015 - 02:51 PM.

[Wolfwood592]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 09 January 2015 - 02:24 PM, said:

Your rig is not anywhere near Killer, AMD 7770 is the upper end of a low end graphics card at best (and that was when it was released) Your AMD 8 Core's single core performance is sub-par, nothing you can do will fix what is ultimately a hardware issue for you. Yes, MWO is horribly optimized, but in your case, you simply do not have the horsepower.

if this is a hardware issue, than explain why my system running at 50fps no issue at all? with only shadows on low.

My buddy has a I7 R9 and benchmark is only a few points ahead of mine.


Doesnt seem as much of a hardware issue as he needs to do some serious maintenance on his rig.

NVM its the 7770 im sorry, my GTX 750 is my bottleneck now and its a huge improvement from that.

Edited by Wolfwood592, 09 January 2015 - 03:04 PM.

[Thorqemada]

MWO is pretty CPU bound - with the right settings the GPU is not the big bottleneck as long it is at least Mainstream class...

Edited by Thorqemada, 09 January 2015 - 05:05 PM.

[Mycrus]

LordBraxton, on 09 January 2015 - 10:32 AM, said:

I love my PC, and have no regrets going AMD\Radeon rather than the pricey intel\NVidia options.
　
I have an 8core 4.0ghz processor and a 3g7770, 8g of ram etc. etc. It's a solid rig going on two years old, and runs everything flawlessly. EXCEPT for MWO.
　
Any tips on running MWO on AMD hardware? It looks like it's only using like 1 of my 8cores. This game is so terribly optimized it makes me weep.

Yah get a real computer.. you know with intel/nvdia like everybody else...

[SCHLIMMER BESTIMMER XXX]

Mycrus, on 09 January 2015 - 05:10 PM, said:

Yah get a real computer.. you know with intel/nvdia like everybody else...

Yah get a real life, with money consuming things you know, like family and car.....

[9thDeathscream]

Unfortunately, your hardware isn't that great at running MWO. As others have said MWO is poorly optimized.

All I can suggest is that you make sure that the cores are unparked on your processor. (Google core parking) That may give you a boost.

As for your 7770 it was a low end card many years ago. Perhaps if possible try a higher card like a 7950.
The 7770 has the memory count, but not the raw throughput required for higher resolutions and settings.

My son runs an AMD FX8350, 8Gb 79503Gb. Win 8.1. All cores Unparked. And it runs on a 22inch at 1680 X 1050. Very High at 50+ Fps

Edited by Akulla1980, 02 May 2015 - 02:21 AM.

[Ursh]

Game runs like junk on most rigs, even if you have a lightning fast connection, ssd, lots of ram, good video card, etc.

Your rig can't overcome their cheap servers all the time.