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[Shae Starfyre]

Is this the same as the JAG-A (SMURPH is not loading so I can't tell); the hard points and quirks may be nice:

Hardpoints:

• Left Arm: 1 Ballistic, 2 Missile

• Left Torso: 1 Energy, 1 AMS

• Right Torso: 1 Energy

• Right Arm: 1 Ballistic, 2 Missile

Quirks:

• Additional Structure (LT) +7

• Additional Structure (RT) +7

• Ballistic Range +20%

• Ballistic Velocity +10%

• Laser Duration -10%

• Missile Cooldown +20%

• Missile Heat Generation -10%

[FupDup]

The champion build is poorly designed. Too little armor, too little ammo, no backup energy weapons, and not particularly fast for a fragile 65 ton heavy. It's like they want the new players to be slaughtered while piloting these deathtraps...

JM6-A(C) Stock

[Deathlike]

FupDup, on 05 May 2015 - 10:35 AM, said:

The champion build is poorly designed. Too little armor, too little ammo, no backup energy weapons, and not particularly fast for a fragile 65 ton heavy. It's like they want the new players to be slaughtered while piloting these deathtraps...

JM6-A(C) Stock

It's a feature™.

[Shae Starfyre]

Yea, your right, I just noticed the engine.
Engine: 260 XL
aside from that, is it the same as the JAG-A as far as Hard Points?

[FupDup]

Aphoticus, on 05 May 2015 - 10:36 AM, said:

Yea, your right, I just noticed the engine.
Engine: 260 XL
aside from that, is it the same as the JAG-A as far as Hard Points?

Yes, it's basically just a Jager A with a 30% XP boost.

[Deathlike]

I mean, why give people a 265XL... let's chain them to the "stock engine". Yeah!

[TercieI]

Dear new players:

Don't. Seriously.

[FupDup]

Here's my first poopy attempt to improve it...

JM6-A(C) Slightly Less Bad Version

[1453 R]

You can either do dual cannons or massed missiles with the JM6-A. It doesn't have enough weight for both. That said...I'm pretty disappointed with the loadout as shown. Four tons of SRM-6 ammo is on the scant side for four SRM-6s, but c'mon - two tons of UAC/5 ammo for two UAC/5s? 304 points of armor?

Disgraceful.

At the very least, drop to SRM-4s, max out the armor, and get two more tons of UAC ammo in there, and even then it only qualifies as 'bad' instead of 'disastrous'. Frankly if I were building it I'd probably drop the autocannons altogether. Quad ASRM-6 and some medium lasers, up-engine to whatever I can manage with six tons of ammo for the launchers. If you're going to make an SRM-cruising JagerMech, then make an SRM cruiser. Don't dilute it with eighteen tons of autocannons/ammo it barely gets to use. Just...not good.

EDIT:: now that Smurfy's working again... http://mwo.smurfy-ne...42b26bb49db5f18

It's still not amazeballs, but this would be a much more servicable ambush predator or BrawlerMech than the existing champion. Six tons of ASRM ammo likely still isn't quite enough, but it is back on a standard engine so that rookies don't fall over the instant one of those glass JagerShoulders blows out. No autocannons, but like I said - missiles or autocannons, not missiles and autocannons.

Edited by 1453 R, 05 May 2015 - 10:47 AM.

[Deathlike]

FupDup, on 05 May 2015 - 10:41 AM, said:

Here's my first poopy attempt to improve it...

JM6-A(C) Slightly Less Bad Version

I see what you did there.... or am I seeing things???!11111!!

[RavensScar]

I swear the Champion builds are getting worse.

The old Atlas, Centurion, Dragon (etc.) Champs were pretty odd builds, but at least they were somewhat optimised.

The last few Champions (this, Wolverine, Griffon) are just bad.

[Ultimax]

This build = hysteribad.

[Fuggles]

srms plus jagers dont work well, they just dont.

swap em for lrm 5's

[McMatt]

My first run with it was 4 kills, 6 assists. Vanilla build.

[AlmightyAeng]

McMatt, on 05 May 2015 - 11:47 AM, said:

My first run with it was 4 kills, 6 assists. Vanilla build.

The MM obviously likes you.

[McMatt]

LOL.
Well, second run was far from first. I should have taken radar deprivation.

[LT. HARDCASE]

Drop to SRM4s, increase armor and UAC5 ammo, profit. Drop to AC5s if you want backup lasers.

I'm just thankful for the XL260, I was literally just pining for one of those yesterday.

[Deathlike]

RavensScar, on 05 May 2015 - 11:02 AM, said:

I swear the Champion builds are getting worse.

The old Atlas, Centurion, Dragon (etc.) Champs were pretty odd builds, but at least they were somewhat optimised.

The last few Champions (this, Wolverine, Griffon) are just bad.

[Revorn]

Or at least go Orginality, 2 AC2, 4SRM 2, XL300, for the Lolz

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d90ca4072061c9f

Edited by Revorn, 05 May 2015 - 12:19 PM.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Shiiiiiiiiiit..... I'd rather then get this:

JM6-A(C)Std270, AC10, SRM4s, MedLas