Could House Davion Sit Out The Next Battle Of Tukayyid?
#41
Posted 06 May 2015 - 11:45 AM
As far as the Comp Merc units go. You did what you are used to doing. Good job as well!
#42
Posted 06 May 2015 - 11:48 AM
At the early stages of CW Beta 1, HK was slow to react and to get its members active, some units due to real life issues.etc. But the core players stayed active, kept working up and by utilizing the hub teamspeak. By mixing in the unit members, by building up the CW knowledge of various units we managed to build a solid core of players and drop callers.
This in turn allowed units to build up their own teams by having experienced players sharing that knowledge. This combined with the fact that HK runs its drop groups mixed a lot, means that shared strategies and tactics are common place. Where possible, new players are helped and everyone is welcome to drop and new units are encouraged to come on to the hub.
That is how Kurita built up its CW base. Nothing stopping other factions from doing similar, in fact by doing so will encourage us to continue to improve.
#45
Posted 06 May 2015 - 12:56 PM
Repasy, on 06 May 2015 - 10:54 AM, said:
How DARE you ask for players to sit out the next season, ComWar participation is freaking low enough as it is. Seriously! How DAAARE you... >: (
Just a couple of things (and I'm not attacking, or anything like that, just a few minor corrections):
1- Clan Wolf had MS, which is in fact, several merc groups, and whether I like it or not, they are considered the best CW group right now, or at least one of the best. However, they are not a clan wolf unit. The number 1 scoring unit for clan wolf, and all the clans, is a merc unit.
2- The clans were never outnumbered in this version of Tukayyid, since the max number of matches was capped, and locked. To remove player population imbalance. If it wasn't done, and the clans lost, this would literally be the number one complaint by clan players about how tukayyid went.
3- Everyone fought hard, and tempers run hot sometimes for these competitive events.
[This one goes out to everyone]:
4- Why on earth are you guys responding to such weak bait from a WoL player? Maybe I've spent too much time in the underbelly of the internet so I'm used to it, but this is really the lamest attempt at trolling. Just ignore the derp!
It's a WoL player (Liao, basically), who's posing as Kurita. This only has 4 translations:
1- He's trying to agitate Kurita and Davion some more
2- He's posing as Kurita to troll
3- He's posing as Kurita to try and get some "internet glory" that he didn't earn
4- He's just here to start a mess, and agitate people for the hell of it.
CyclonerM, on 06 May 2015 - 11:15 AM, said:
Kurita: 3
Liao: 2
Davion: 2
FRR: 1, however their top 5 unit is now fighting for Clan Wolf (but they say they are loyal to the FRR)
Marik: 1
Steiner: 2
Smoke Jaguar: 1-2, not sure
Wolf: 2
Ghost Bear: 1-2, not sure
Falcon: 3-4 not sure
Hope this helps.
While MS is listed as 1 unit. MS is in fact several units. So technically, the top spot is shared between several (a dozen or so?) units.
Edited by IraqiWalker, 06 May 2015 - 12:57 PM.
#46
Posted 06 May 2015 - 02:44 PM
IraqiWalker, on 06 May 2015 - 12:56 PM, said:
1- Clan Wolf had MS, which is in fact, several merc groups, and whether I like it or not, they are considered the best CW group right now, or at least one of the best. However, they are not a clan wolf unit. The number 1 scoring unit for clan wolf, and all the clans, is a merc unit.
2- The clans were never outnumbered in this version of Tukayyid, since the max number of matches was capped, and locked. To remove player population imbalance. If it wasn't done, and the clans lost, this would literally be the number one complaint by clan players about how tukayyid went.
3- Everyone fought hard, and tempers run hot sometimes for these competitive events.
[This one goes out to everyone]:
4- Why on earth are you guys responding to such weak bait from a WoL player? Maybe I've spent too much time in the underbelly of the internet so I'm used to it, but this is really the lamest attempt at trolling. Just ignore the derp!
It's a WoL player (Liao, basically), who's posing as Kurita. This only has 4 translations:
1- He's trying to agitate Kurita and Davion some more
2- He's posing as Kurita to troll
3- He's posing as Kurita to try and get some "internet glory" that he didn't earn
4- He's just here to start a mess, and agitate people for the hell of it.
While MS is listed as 1 unit. MS is in fact several units. So technically, the top spot is shared between several (a dozen or so?) units.
Since you have been away for a little while, let me give you the summarized version.
1. WoL has been traveling around getting free Robot Bays because it is fun.
2. WoL has been with Kurita now for about how two months because with our lack of numbers ( due to CW having as much substance as a hot air balloon ) if we choose to do CW it is the best spot for us. Kurita is the most organized faction in IS if not overall. It is also very wise to learn from a faction that knows how to deal with clan drops.
3. Davion has been irrelevant for quite some time now ( it's really a shame ) due to whatever reasons. My guess is blame PGI.
4. As a whole the three southern Houses did not fair well, perhaps it is because of the lack of actually facing Clans on a normal basis. Better competition makes weaker players, stronger.
Well that pretty much sums it up welcome back..
SQUAWK!!!
Edited by Grynos, 06 May 2015 - 02:46 PM.
#47
Posted 06 May 2015 - 02:56 PM
Knight2416, on 05 May 2015 - 06:50 PM, said:
Good question!
I can tell you this much: The #1 unit in the inner sphere is a proud Kurita loyalist!
PerfectDuck, on 05 May 2015 - 08:37 PM, said:
Okay, the mercs could have done anything during this event. They could've just as easily been Davion. Let's compare the top 5 of each house without any mercs.
House Kurita:
[228th IBR is mercenary]
1 Night's Scorn: 1888 matches 1509 wins 79.9%
[Antares Scorpions is mercenary]
[Varangian Guard is FRR Loyalist playing in Kurita for some reason]
[Black Widow Company Veteran Mercs are mercs]
2. 6th Rangers Night Talons: 1573 matches 870 wins 55.3%
3. 3rd Takata Lancers: 1147 matches 697 wins 60.8%
4. 9th Sword of the Dragon: 999 matches 592 wins 59.3%
5. Old Fanged Farts: are Russian and possibly merc but I haven't heard of them being outside of Kurita: 930 matches 508 wins 54.6%
6. If unsatisfied with using OFF as #5 slot, then 5th would be NKVA: 538 matches 487 wins 90.5%
House Davion:
1. Robinsin Rangers Brigade: 1841 matches 946 wins 51.4%
2. Aces Wild: 1916 matches 788 wins 41.1%
[Praetorian Legion are mercs]
3. 66th Avalon Hussars: 979 matches 587 wins 60.0%
4. HeadHunters of Davion: 1327 matches 548 wins 41.3%
5. 31st Hussar Regiment: 788 matches 388 wins 49.2%
As far as mercs 'doing all the work' for Kurita, even if all the mercs were gone Kurita would show a landslide more influence on the Battle of Tukayyid than Davion, particularly in the 'wins' department.
Sorry your list is wrong.
Please refer to figure below:
#48
Posted 06 May 2015 - 02:58 PM
PerfectDuck, on 05 May 2015 - 08:37 PM, said:
Okay, the mercs could have done anything during this event. They could've just as easily been Davion. Let's compare the top 5 of each house without any mercs.
House Kurita:
[228th IBR is mercenary]
1 Night's Scorn: 1888 matches 1509 wins 79.9%
[Antares Scorpions is mercenary]
[Varangian Guard is FRR Loyalist playing in Kurita for some reason]
[Black Widow Company Veteran Mercs are mercs]
2. 6th Rangers Night Talons: 1573 matches 870 wins 55.3%
3. 3rd Takata Lancers: 1147 matches 697 wins 60.8%
4. 9th Sword of the Dragon: 999 matches 592 wins 59.3%
5. Old Fanged Farts: are Russian and possibly merc but I haven't heard of them being outside of Kurita: 930 matches 508 wins 54.6%
6. If unsatisfied with using OFF as #5 slot, then 5th would be NKVA: 538 matches 487 wins 90.5%
House Davion:
1. Robinsin Rangers Brigade: 1841 matches 946 wins 51.4%
2. Aces Wild: 1916 matches 788 wins 41.1%
[Praetorian Legion are mercs]
3. 66th Avalon Hussars: 979 matches 587 wins 60.0%
4. HeadHunters of Davion: 1327 matches 548 wins 41.3%
5. 31st Hussar Regiment: 788 matches 388 wins 49.2%
As far as mercs 'doing all the work' for Kurita, even if all the mercs were gone Kurita would show a landslide more influence on the Battle of Tukayyid than Davion, particularly in the 'wins' department.
Remanent (mercs, all twelve that played) were 68% W/L for Kurita lol
#49
Posted 06 May 2015 - 03:08 PM
Grynos, on 06 May 2015 - 02:44 PM, said:
1. WoL has been traveling around getting free Robot Bays because it is fun.
2. WoL has been with Kurita now for about how two months because with our lack of numbers ( due to CW having as much substance as a hot air balloon ) if we choose to do CW it is the best spot for us. Kurita is the most organized faction in IS if not overall. It is also very wise to learn from a faction that knows how to deal with clan drops.
3. Davion has been irrelevant for quite some time now ( it's really a shame ) due to whatever reasons. My guess is blame PGI.
4. As a whole the three southern Houses did not fair well, perhaps it is because of the lack of actually facing Clans on a normal basis. Better competition makes weaker players, stronger.
Well that pretty much sums it up welcome back..
SQUAWK!!!
In case I wasn't clear in my post. I had no comments on what WoL was doing. I was commenting on his actions, alone. Bringing up his association with WoL to remind people that he's not a Kurita loyalist. Since WoL is not a Kurita house unit.
#50
Posted 06 May 2015 - 03:26 PM
#51
Posted 06 May 2015 - 03:41 PM
#52
Posted 06 May 2015 - 03:45 PM
IraqiWalker, on 06 May 2015 - 03:08 PM, said:
In case I wasn't clear in my post. I had no comments on what WoL was doing. I was commenting on his actions, alone. Bringing up his association with WoL to remind people that he's not a Kurita loyalist. Since WoL is not a Kurita house unit.
I'm a Kurita likealist
kurita bros I've played with seem p. cool
when we used to fight for liao and roll davion 12-mans they would resort to refusing to open the gates to waste the whole 30 minutes and "tie us up"
it was p. great seeing that strong marriage of tactical and strategic acumen from davion on Tukayyid
#53
Posted 06 May 2015 - 03:49 PM
VorpalAnvil, on 06 May 2015 - 03:41 PM, said:
That might happen. Or not. If only PGI could make it so that solo drops can only be done on your own territory while groups can go elsewhere within the faction, things could be so much better.
(ex: In this case, our Kurita, and Davion pubs can slug it out on their own, while our organized groups can drop on the kurita/CSJ border on behalf of Kurita. Without having pubs from all other IS houses clogging up that border as well)
and that's how Davion and Kurita solve this, by combining forces to skin clan Walrus Jesus.
pattonesque, on 06 May 2015 - 03:45 PM, said:
I'm a Kurita likealist
kurita bros I've played with seem p. cool
when we used to fight for liao and roll davion 12-mans they would resort to refusing to open the gates to waste the whole 30 minutes and "tie us up"
it was p. great seeing that strong marriage of tactical and strategic acumen from Davion on Tukayyid
I will give you this: That post is a better attempt than the OP 4.5/10 You're almost there (if you can take advantage of the clue I just dropped you)
Also, since you have no record (in your own words), of those 12-man rolls, and this is the internet, where everyone is an expert and the bestest at everything, your credibility is running pretty short.
#54
Posted 07 May 2015 - 04:47 AM
IraqiWalker, on 06 May 2015 - 12:56 PM, said:
It currently has 8 units, i just asked.
On the other hand, CWI is formed by 3 Galaxies, each with 1-2 Clusters. By this logic, would they be considered 3 different "units"?
It is still true that MS has had a big impact, but that was simply by sheer numbers, which were one if not THE major factor during the event.
If you count the partecipating members, you will see that the regular Wolf units combined had about double of the partecipating players vs merc players, so i still think that they had a bigger impact overall.
Talking about numbers, i think it is worth noting that while they have 8 units, they still have less total members than SWOL and not many more than CWI. The difference of partecipating members is not huge as well.
Oth, it is also true that the number of wins is similar between all the regular vs merc units in the top 5. However, # of partecipating members was an important factor there, more players = more teams = more wins.
I still think CW is a Game of Numbers, now even more than ever.
#56
Posted 07 May 2015 - 08:41 AM
IraqiWalker, on 06 May 2015 - 12:56 PM, said:
This wasn't just true of Wolf. Here's the #1 ranked unit for each faction and my best recollection whether they are loyalist of merc (someone will correct me if I'm mistaken, I'm sure):
Clan Wolf, Mercstar (Merc)
Davion, Robinson Rangers Brigade (Loyalist)
FRR, Phoenix Legion (Merc)
Ghost Bear, Clan Ghost Bear International (Loyalist)
Jade Falcon, Smoking J's (Merc?)
Kurita, 228th IBR (Merc)
Liao, Tikonov Commonality Armed Forces (Loyalist?)
Marik, 313th Czechoslovak Mech Company (Loyalist?)
Smoke Jaguar, Smoke Adders (Loyalist?)
Steiner, Skye Rangers of Terra (Loyalist?)
So, the top faction in the IS (Kurita) was also led by a merc unit.
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While MS is listed as 1 unit. MS is in fact several units. So technically, the top spot is shared between several (a dozen or so?) units.
I think the following units are the current members of -MS- (doing this from memory, no access to game right now):
Swords of Kentares (SwK)
Star League Reborn (SLR)
The Forsaken Few (TFF)
Ordo Ursa (-OU-)
..... (BSA) (can't recall their full name right now, sorry guys)
Golden Eagle Merc Corps (GEMC)
Bad News Bears (BnB)
I feel like I might be missing one or two... So, not quite a dozen.
Edited to add: CyclonerM verified 8 total, so I'm definitely missing somebody.
-MS- has also had a large influx of new players coinciding with the event that have -MS- unit tags in game, but who are still part of the MS Reserves, meaning they haven't yet selected or been invited to one of the above units. Think of them as new recruits and not yet full-fledged unit members. In any given drop (CW or public group) there will likely be a mix of players from various units (including MS Reserves), but all on the same comms and wearing the -MS- unit designation.
Edited by Khereg, 07 May 2015 - 08:45 AM.
#57
Posted 07 May 2015 - 09:57 AM
Edited by Brazzez, 07 May 2015 - 09:58 AM.
#58
Posted 07 May 2015 - 09:59 AM
All sides had new PUGs playing CW with trial mechs and no modules.
It came down to an even fight as far as numbers are concerned and a lack of XP for some factions...thats all
#59
Posted 07 May 2015 - 11:30 AM
Edited by Brazzez, 07 May 2015 - 11:36 AM.
#60
Posted 07 May 2015 - 12:16 PM
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