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[grendeldog]

Currently I am leveling up my Timber-C gauss/puke build. I just had two back to back games with four kills each; this build is lovely. Currently I am running it like this:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8bc8fd582dcf269

I have the gauss in the TBR-C right arm, there are three ERML in the S right torso, C center torso, and Prime left torso respectively, and then one ERLL in the D variant left arm for the reduced energy heat generation quirk. There is also a Targetting Computer MK 1.

I realize this is not the standard 4 ERML + 1 gauss build. If I used the C center torso but everything else from the prime, I could actually run 6 ERML - two in each arm, one in the left torso, one in the center torso. That build also has a TC MK 3 and a cooling efficiency before any skill leveling of 34%. So I know that it can be min/maxed further. That said, I am enjoying the build I have here a lot, with the JJs helping me tank any incoming fire and also making it easier to traverse difficult terrain.

So I was wondering if anybody else runs weird / non-standardized gauss. Anybody put the rifle into a side torso? I don't have an A variant, but I suppose you could run some lasers in the high mount and the rifle in the other torso if you worry about arms being blown off / want a higher rifle mount. Anybody run all ERLL with the rifle? Or ERPPC + gauss for some real craziness?

Edited by grendeldog, 04 May 2015 - 02:38 PM.

[Hit the Deck]

I want to try this Gauss + 2x cERPPC since I have spectated someone doing well with it. You can just mount the cERPPC somewhere else if you don't have the TBR-A.

Edited by Hit the Deck, 04 May 2015 - 10:23 PM.

[grendeldog]

Those would be murder in the high mount. I had somebody recommend 2 CLPLs with gauss - you can squeeze in an ERML but I don't think a single medium would do too much difference so I would probably go with a heatsink instead.

[Shalune]

I've done the 2 PPC + Gauss, but with PPCs in the right arm to good effect in Tukayyid. Looking forward to that side torso being out for cbills to try that variant.

As for non-standard Gauss builds, I used 3-4x MPL + Gauss as my main Tukayyid lineup (Stormcrow and Hellbringer respective). I haven't used this on the TBR specifically, but the weapon combination is excellent. It puts up higher rate of fire and more accurate damage than a vast majority of clan builds. It works as a nice way to fill that role gap in clan CW without having to use the inefficient and inflexible ER PPC.

I found this build so effective that I started running it in place of typical LPL + ER ML builds for Tukayyid. I'd do something like this for TBR if I didn't prefer the HBR and SCR over it:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...dd34e02a8becb64

That or drop the left arm MPL for 2x DHS, which would give you plenty of cooling to out-dps many mechs.

[_____]

Not sure what you mean by non-standard. 2xcLPL+Gauss and 2xcERPPC+Gauss are not uncommon. One is a long-mid range poker, the other is often run as a poptart. I saw an interesting 1v1 build with 2xERML+2xGauss. It looked ok for that purpose, but probably not suitable for the pub queue.

[Moldur]

I have a non-standard prime that I like. TBR-PRIME
2 ER-PPCs 1 in each arm. Usually on chain fire
3xER-ML, 2 in the arms, 1 in left torso
Has a TC II (can be switched with bigger TC and less heatsinks)
I also use advanced zoom
I took the lower arm actuators off to fit even more heatsinks, smaller TC, 54 armor legs

The upfront damage isn't super, though still respectable, no min range is helpful. The biggest draw is just how much you can shoot your PPCs. The heat is really manageable, and the targeting computer helps with actually hitting the PPCs. I end up destroying a lot of enemy components in this mech.

I may change up the build later, but I didn't want to spend the bills on different torsos when I originally made it.

Edited by Moldur, 05 May 2015 - 05:25 PM.

[grendeldog]

BlackhawkSC, on 05 May 2015 - 04:28 PM, said:

Not sure what you mean by non-standard. 2xcLPL+Gauss and 2xcERPPC+Gauss are not uncommon. One is a long-mid range poker, the other is often run as a poptart. I saw an interesting 1v1 build with 2xERML+2xGauss. It looked ok for that purpose, but probably not suitable for the pub queue.

I guess I meant anything besides the gauss + 5 ERML build, as that one is the build on Meta Mechs, and so I tend to view that build as the standard / go-to build.

I'm not a huge fan of the C-ERPPC - it's so hot and its PPFLD potential is diminished relative to the IS version by doing splash damage - but I'll have to check out the 2 LPL version.

I hadn't thought to use MPLs with the gauss since their range brackets are so different. It sounds like an interesting concept though, so I may have to take my 5 MPL Stormcrow and change the build so as to have a rifle in that left arm.

[_____]

You can use the gauss as a closer range weapon but it makes you a lot easier to hit. Reason why 5xERML+Gauss is such a great build is that it gives you the mid-range option when the two teams haven't yet gotten close to each other, but when it does get close, 2 or 3xML+Gauss gives you fairly good DPS as well. When you go MPL you sort of lose that mid-range option as a single gauss plus reduced laser damage at 450+ isn't worth exposing half your mech for. Even a lowly AWS-8Q with 4xPPCs would gladly trade with you all day at that range. You're more oriented toward short ranges, in which case weapons like SRMs and LBXs start becoming more optimal.

Again, my 2 cents, but I'd always say try it out and see how it does for you.

[grendeldog]

BlackhawkSC, on 06 May 2015 - 04:43 PM, said:

You can use the gauss as a closer range weapon but it makes you a lot easier to hit. Reason why 5xERML+Gauss is such a great build is that it gives you the mid-range option when the two teams haven't yet gotten close to each other, but when it does get close, 2 or 3xML+Gauss gives you fairly good DPS as well. When you go MPL you sort of lose that mid-range option as a single gauss plus reduced laser damage at 450+ isn't worth exposing half your mech for. Even a lowly AWS-8Q with 4xPPCs would gladly trade with you all day at that range. You're more oriented toward short ranges, in which case weapons like SRMs and LBXs start becoming more optimal.

Again, my 2 cents, but I'd always say try it out and see how it does for you.

Yeah, I personally wouldn't run an MPL + gauss Timber. On my SCR though I would consider it.

Now that I think about it though I'm not sure the SCR has the tonnage for gauss and MPL both. Gauss and ERML is a thing, but I'm thinking now that you'd have to give up more firepower than you would gain.

Edited by grendeldog, 06 May 2015 - 05:54 PM.

[Jorunn]

TBR-PRIME
4x ERML, 1x ERPPC, 1x Gauss has been a really fun build for me

[Anakha]

This is my favorite Gauss Timber build. 4ER ML + Gauss for range and 2 ASRM6 for up close. You can basically brawl with almost no heat using gauss and SRM's once you reach your heat cap if needed and you have great mid range punch with the 4 ML + Gauss. Only 1 JJ is the only downside to the build but I like it better than using the S side torso on the left side but if you want 2 JJ u can do that as well.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...968565d76544e10

Edited by Anakha, 06 May 2015 - 10:29 PM.