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#21 Patzer

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 12:23 PM

I tried to download and it said I need to disable the patcher...tried and failed. any suggestions

#22 Biruke

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 12:29 PM

Can you make the PTS patcher run separately from the regular patcher. I can't play becasue the PTS patcher is running

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 12:29 PM

I'm patching my TS client as I type this, but the download is horrifically slow. And I have really good bandwidth (ping sucks, but that's another matter).

I noticed this on Tuesday too. PGI, please do something about this, it's taking forever to patch the client... :(

#24 RedEagle86

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 12:40 PM

This would be great.... If my computer wasn't in the shop with motherboard issues.

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 12:59 PM

While an improvement, the functionality and positioning of some components are terrible... I'll put a full description in the appropriate areas.

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 01:01 PM

A00][2015-05-07T13:50:13]i001: Burn v3.7.1224.0, Windows v6.2 (Build 9200: Service Pack 0), path: C:\Users\Mitchell\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCache\IE\76XBGD2L\MechWarriorOnlineInstaller.exe, cmdline: '-burn.unelevated BurnPipe.{6B074F08-204F-4DC6-A59A-504E6A97BE7C} {67700B5B-FE68-400A-8CA0-3E29A21935C4} 19000'
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:13]i000: Initializing string variable 'TempPatcherFolder' to value '[ProgramFilesFolder]MWO Public Test\MWOPatcher'
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:13]i000: Initializing string variable 'LaunchTarget' to value '[InstallFolder]\MechWarrior Online\Bin32\MechWarriorOnline.exe'
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:13]i000: Initializing string variable 'InstallFolder' to value '[ProgramFilesFolder]MWO Public Test'
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:13]i000: Setting string variable 'WixBundleLog' to value 'C:\Users\Mitchell\AppData\Local\Temp\MWO_Public_Test_20150507135013.log'
cant download this is what it says

This setup requires MWOPatcher.exe be closed..I tried to but there is no way to do that that I can see. Listed below is what i found

[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:13]i000: Setting string variable 'WixBundleOriginalSource' to value 'C:\Users\Mitchell\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCache\IE\76XBGD2L\MechWarriorOnlineInstaller.exe'
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:13]i000: Setting string variable 'WixBundleName' to value 'MWO Public Test'
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:14]i100: Detect begin, 3 packages
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:14]i000: Setting string variable 'HasVCPP2010Search' to value '1'
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:14]i000: Setting string variable 'Netfx35SP' to value '1'
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:14]i000: Setting string variable 'Netfx20Version' to value '2.0.50727.4927'
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:14]i000: Setting string variable 'Netfx4FullVersion' to value '1'
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:14]i000: Setting string variable 'Netfx35Version' to value '3.5.30729.4926'
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:14]i000: Setting string variable 'Netfx30Version' to value '3.0.30729.4926'
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:14]i101: Detected package: vcredist_x86.exe, state: Absent, cached: None
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:14]i101: Detected package: dotNetFx40_Full_x86_x64.exe, state: Absent, cached: None
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:14]i101: Detected package: MechWarrior_Online.msi, state: Absent, cached: None
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:14]i104: Detected package: MechWarrior_Online.msi, feature: DirectXRedist, state: Absent
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:14]i104: Detected package: MechWarrior_Online.msi, feature: MechWarriorOnlineInstall, state: Absent
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:14]i052: Condition 'NOT Installer_Running' evaluates to true.
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:14]i052: Condition 'NOT ((VersionNT > 501 OR VersionNT64 > 501) OR (VersionNT = 501 AND ServicePackLevel >= 3) OR (VersionNT64 = 501 AND ServicePackLevel >= 2))' evaluates to true.
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:14]i199: Detect complete, result: 0x0
[4DBC:4FF4][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i000: Setting string variable 'InstallFolder' to value 'C:\Program Files (x86)\MWO Public Test'
[4DBC:4FF4][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i000: Setting string variable 'DTSC' to value '1'
[4DBC:4FF4][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i000: Setting string variable 'SMSC' to value '1'
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i200: Plan begin, 3 packages, action: Install
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i052: Condition 'NOT HasVCPP2010Search' evaluates to false.
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]w321: Skipping dependency registration on package with no dependency providers: vcredist_x86.exe
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i052: Condition 'NOT Netfx4FullVersion' evaluates to false.
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]w321: Skipping dependency registration on package with no dependency providers: dotNetFx40_Full_x86_x64.exe
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i052: Condition 'NOT InstallFolder_registry' evaluates to true.
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i204: Plan 2 msi features for package: MechWarrior_Online.msi
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i203: Planned feature: DirectXRedist, state: Absent, default requested: Unknown, ba requested: Unknown, execute action: None, rollback action: None
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i203: Planned feature: MechWarriorOnlineInstall, state: Absent, default requested: Unknown, ba requested: Unknown, execute action: None, rollback action: None
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i000: Setting string variable 'WixBundleRollbackLog_MechWarrior_Online.msi' to value 'C:\Users\Mitchell\AppData\Local\Temp\MWO_Public_Test_20150507135013_0_MechWarrior_Online.msi_rollback.log'
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i000: Setting string variable 'WixBundleLog_MechWarrior_Online.msi' to value 'C:\Users\Mitchell\AppData\Local\Temp\MWO_Public_Test_20150507135013_0_MechWarrior_Online.msi.log'
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i201: Planned package: vcredist_x86.exe, state: Absent, default requested: Absent, ba requested: Absent, execute: None, rollback: None, cache: No, uncache: No, dependency: None
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i201: Planned package: dotNetFx40_Full_x86_x64.exe, state: Absent, default requested: Absent, ba requested: Absent, execute: None, rollback: None, cache: No, uncache: No, dependency: None
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i201: Planned package: MechWarrior_Online.msi, state: Absent, default requested: Present, ba requested: Present, execute: Install, rollback: Uninstall, cache: Yes, uncache: No, dependency: Register
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i299: Plan complete, result: 0x0
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i300: Apply begin
[4A38:428C][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i360: Creating a system restore point.
[4A38:428C][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i361: Created a system restore point.
[4A38:428C][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i000: Caching bundle from: 'C:\Users\Mitchell\AppData\Local\Temp\{4ee8dd3b-b1b6-4974-a271-d9423b69af3c}\.be\MechWarriorOnlineInstaller.exe' to: 'C:\ProgramData\Package Cache\{4ee8dd3b-b1b6-4974-a271-d9423b69af3c}\MechWarriorOnlineInstaller.exe'
[4A38:428C][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i320: Registering bundle dependency provider: {4ee8dd3b-b1b6-4974-a271-d9423b69af3c}, version: 1.5.0.0
[4A38:41D0][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i305: Verified acquired payload: MechWarrior_Online.msi at path: C:\ProgramData\Package Cache\.unverified\MechWarrior_Online.msi, moving to: C:\ProgramData\Package Cache\{292A297A-CF39-497C-B5EE-48A2B1C8C483}v1.5.0.0\MechWarrior Online.msi.
[4A38:428C][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i323: Registering package dependency provider: {292A297A-CF39-497C-B5EE-48A2B1C8C483}, version: 1.5.0.0, package: MechWarrior_Online.msi
[4A38:428C][2015-05-07T13:50:20]i301: Applying execute package: MechWarrior_Online.msi, action: Install, path: C:\ProgramData\Package Cache\{292A297A-CF39-497C-B5EE-48A2B1C8C483}v1.5.0.0\MechWarrior Online.msi, arguments: ' ALLUSERS="1" ARPSYSTEMCOMPONENT="1" INSTALLLOCATION="C:\Program Files (x86)\MWO Public Test\MechWarrior Online" TEMPPATCHLOCATION="C:\Program Files (x86)\MWO Public Test\MWOUpdate" MAKEDTSC="1" MAKESMSC="1"'
[4A38:428C][2015-05-07T13:50:23]e000: Error 0x80070643: Failed to install MSI package.
[4A38:428C][2015-05-07T13:50:23]e000: Error 0x80070643: Failed to execute MSI package.
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:23]e000: Error 0x80070643: Failed to configure per-machine MSI package.
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:23]i319: Applied execute package: MechWarrior_Online.msi, result: 0x80070643, restart: None
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:23]e000: Error 0x80070643: Failed to execute MSI package.
[4A38:428C][2015-05-07T13:50:23]i318: Skipped rollback of package: MechWarrior_Online.msi, action: Uninstall, already: Absent
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:23]i319: Applied rollback package: MechWarrior_Online.msi, result: 0x0, restart: None
[4A38:428C][2015-05-07T13:50:23]i329: Removed package dependency provider: {292A297A-CF39-497C-B5EE-48A2B1C8C483}, package: MechWarrior_Online.msi
[4A38:428C][2015-05-07T13:50:23]i351: Removing cached package: MechWarrior_Online.msi, from path: C:\ProgramData\Package Cache\{292A297A-CF39-497C-B5EE-48A2B1C8C483}v1.5.0.0\
[4A38:428C][2015-05-07T13:50:23]i330: Removed bundle dependency provider: {4ee8dd3b-b1b6-4974-a271-d9423b69af3c}
[4A38:428C][2015-05-07T13:50:23]i352: Removing cached bundle: {4ee8dd3b-b1b6-4974-a271-d9423b69af3c}, from path: C:\ProgramData\Package Cache\{4ee8dd3b-b1b6-4974-a271-d9423b69af3c}\
[4DBC:4A00][2015-05-07T13:50:24]i399: Apply complete, result: 0x80070643, restart: None, ba requested restart: No


#27 Taifune

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 01:16 PM

Please give the Mech-Select screen an option or button to show/hide all mechs wich expands/collapses all sublists (I personaly like the icons view we had before, but for finding a Mech the collapsed view might help). This status and the status of expanded/column Mech view should be saved so one does not have to arrange it every time... That would be awesome!

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 01:16 PM

i would l like to be a part of the test but it seems not possible..truly sorry i deleted the old beta stuff
...good luck on the trial


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 01:18 PM

View PostAlexander Garden, on 07 May 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

This is what the current Column view looks like:

Posted Image

This is what the current Expanded view looks like:

Posted Image



Only thing I can say just from this image, can the Lasers be put together and by size?

So instead of what it is, can it instead be

ERPPC, PPC, ERLL, ML, SL, LPL, MPL, SPL, Flamer? little bit more organized and easier to use...

#30 Hawk819

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 01:24 PM

View PostLordKnightFandragon, on 07 May 2015 - 01:18 PM, said:



Only thing I can say just from this image, can the Lasers be put together and by size?

So instead of what it is, can it instead be

ERPPC, PPC, ERLL, ML, SL, LPL, MPL, SPL, Flamer? little bit more organized and easier to use...



Yea, but there's no MechBay option. Which means, we'll have to go through the `MechLab in order to select out `Mechs. I say this:

1) Make the tabs at the top a bit smaller.
2) add `MechBay to top, or rename "Select `Mech" to `MechBay. and have said tab lead into the MechBay itself.

Make it something like this:

Home/MechBay/MechLab/Skills/Faction|Store|Play Now

Edited by Hawk819, 07 May 2015 - 01:25 PM.


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 01:30 PM

Umm, maybe I missed it but why not put the chassis's quirks in the screen so you may actually know what weapons best fit your 'Mech?

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 01:37 PM

By the time this download finishes the test will be over >.<

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 01:41 PM

View PostHavyek, on 07 May 2015 - 01:30 PM, said:

Umm, maybe I missed it but why not put the chassis's quirks in the screen so you may actually know what weapons best fit your 'Mech?


Yea, I noticed that as well. Good thing this is only a test and not the real McCoy. Otherwise, this would be a huge mess.

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 02:10 PM

View PostAlexander Garden, on 07 May 2015 - 10:52 AM, said:

The only UI-specific changes you're going to see in this build is the addition of Tooltips for a large number of the menu buttons.

The Select 'Mech menu has also been changed, and currently looks like this:
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Aside from that the only changes are going to be inside the Mechlab itself.


GASP!

THERE'S MODULES LISTED IN EASY VIEW!

NO MORE EXASPERATEDLY BUYING NEW ONES BECAUSE I CAN'T FIND WHERE I LEFT THE FRIGGIN THINGS!

lol, 10/10 from me just for that bit.

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 03:03 PM

View PostK19, on 07 May 2015 - 10:10 AM, said:

now alive. It has to be a player to take the test on "mech lab" you not trust in your work. Knowing that many players with their complaints the game became worse.Do you you have to do, and we spoke at the end and not the "sissys" players who like to learn and therefore require the alteration for them not to elite who spends money to you work through this title. good luck


Could you get a translator to tell us what you just said? -Because none of that made any sense. I believe it was supposed to be something sentimental... maybe... but it definitely needs some clarification.

#36 Kaeb Odellas

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 03:49 PM

Can we have an option to keep the old "wall-o-mechs" mech select screen, but with the added filter functionality? I always hated the drop-down stuff in the mech efficiency tab and I'd hate to see it expanded to the mechlab.

I'd also like to be able to see my mech's current engine and heatsink count without pulling it up on the mechlab.

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 03:52 PM

After hours of patching, I'm finally in. I have to say, while the mech setup screen seems to be improving, the mech selection and mech purchase sections are absolutely HORRIBLE.

You can't even see the mech you're looking at buying. It's atrocious. Please keep the current mechbay/store functionality, and just put in the new mech lab screen once we click 'Configure'.

The whole Select Mech bit is clunky, slow and ugly. Never understood why you put that in...

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 04:11 PM

View PostCranky Puppy, on 07 May 2015 - 11:53 AM, said:

We can't port the MC, Cbills, or GXP to the real account?

What real incentive is their for doing this testing and downloading a separate client.....etc?
Some Free MCs would be a nice incentive, Heck 10 free mech bays would be a great incentive for those who test.

The only thing I don't like about the current mechlab is that it doesn't tell you where your modules are located or which mech they are on.

If the mechlab had a TAB for MODULES, which told which mech had them it would be great.

Better yet, when the cursor is over the mech, it should list the modules installed in the mechs under the QUIRKS section, labeled MODULES and font COLOR should be YELLOW.
This would save a lot of time.

Another thing to add to the mechlab is custom badges and titles.
It would be awesome if each mech in the mech lab be assigned a badge.
For example, "Little Helper" badge/title be assigned to the Locust for example. The Atlas have "Giant Helper", Currently only one Badge/Title is blanketed over all the mechs.

Uh, no, the "incentive" is helping the devs make sure this feature is up to par so it works well upon full release. You're not earning the funds they give you to use in the MechLab, so why should you keep them? Entitlement much?

View PostHavyek, on 07 May 2015 - 01:30 PM, said:

Umm, maybe I missed it but why not put the chassis's quirks in the screen so you may actually know what weapons best fit your 'Mech?

Suggest it in the PTS suggestions thread.

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 05:10 PM

View PosteFTy, on 07 May 2015 - 03:52 PM, said:

After hours of patching, I'm finally in. I have to say, while the mech setup screen seems to be improving, the mech selection and mech purchase sections are absolutely HORRIBLE.

You can't even see the mech you're looking at buying. It's atrocious. Please keep the current mechbay/store functionality, and just put in the new mech lab screen once we click 'Configure'.

The whole Select Mech bit is clunky, slow and ugly. Never understood why you put that in...


Have to agree with this, the current method of browsing and buying mechs is better, the one on PTS is quite...awkward."

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 06:15 PM

View PostAlexander Garden, on 07 May 2015 - 10:52 AM, said:

The Select 'Mech menu has also been changed, and currently looks like this:
Posted Image


This looks awful and usability-wise introduces more steps to get to the same place. I can't believe PGI still hasn't hired somebody with a strong usability background.

Here's an easy example. What do all major retailer websites offer for sorting? A single drop down to sort by price, release date, etc. Does mechlab have this? YES. Gold star! Now, what does every major retailer website offer for filtering? Not 2 categories with 2 possible filters using giant buttons at the top of the screen. They use a check box or link (or both) system on the left side. Does mechlab have this? NO. No gold star! Does every major retailer have drop down boxes that you have to open to see each row of items? NO. Why would you make that the standard for the mechlab? No gold star!

Seriously, guys, I nearly broke my tempered glass desk from hitting my head on it so much already. Please stop fiddling with the mechlab until you have a really strong usability-focused person on this. This is getting painful.

EDIT: Or hire me to advise remotely.

Edited by xWiredx, 07 May 2015 - 06:16 PM.






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