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#281 Genesis Rex

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 07:57 AM

I'd like to take a moment and acknowledge the challenge PGI's 65 employees face in creating a balanced, dynamic game mode that we all (including these devs) want CW to be.

Folks, that's 65 people trying to take care of an estimated population 35,000.
So Thank YOU, PGI, for making and continuing to work on MWO: Community Warfare. As you can see many of us are passionate about it, so keep up the good work!


COMMUNITY NOTE: I know some of you are going to take potshots at this, saying I'm kissing up to the devs. Well fire away! You can't hit me because I'm in my lag-shielded Firestarter! :P

#282 Kain Demos

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 07:58 AM

View PostArioch1973, on 11 May 2015 - 02:33 PM, said:

What!!!!!!!!! So just because the clans won, and they still ***** about our mechs being OP, we get reduced drop tonnage??????
Insanity.


This is about getting people to switch sides so that CW doesn't stay dead.

But if the crybabies are getting to you imagine being a clan player---its all we have heard since day one.

View PostGenesis Rex, on 12 May 2015 - 07:57 AM, said:

I'd like to take a moment and acknowledge the challenge PGI's 65 employees face in creating a balanced, dynamic game mode that we all (including these devs) want CW to be.

Folks, that's 65 people trying to take care of an estimated population 35,000.
So Thank YOU, PGI, for making and continuing to work on MWO: Community Warfare. As you can see many of us are passionate about it, so keep up the good work!


COMMUNITY NOTE: I know some of you are going to take potshots at this, saying I'm kissing up to the devs. Well fire away! You can't hit me because I'm in my lag-shielded Firestarter! :P


35,000? I thought only 17,000 participated in Tukayyid.

#283 Jack Spade Ward

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:00 AM

Very nice, now Clans and IS are equal in case of tonnage ;)

I still wonder why IS fan boys are crying? Isnt enough to get the current meta on their side, they have to get more tonnage as well on CW drops?

Now, to put things as they should be, unnerf clan tech. With the current quircks on IS mechs, what IS players need is to bring their meta mechs "i win button" to level the ground with clan mechs.

Remember that the clans only won tukayid because of the main merc top competitive teams changed to the clans, otherwise, clans would be runned over.

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:05 AM

View PostSpadejack, on 12 May 2015 - 08:00 AM, said:

Very nice, now Clans and IS are equal in case of tonnage ;)

I still wonder why IS fan boys are crying? Isnt enough to get the current meta on their side, they have to get more tonnage as well on CW drops?

Now, to put things as they should be, unnerf clan tech. With the current quircks on IS mechs, what IS players need is to bring their meta mechs "i win button" to level the ground with clan mechs.

Remember that the clans only won tukayid because of the main merc top competitive teams changed to the clans, otherwise, clans would be runned over.


good post..... maybe instead of looking at trivial things like tonnage they should be looking at teh depth of CW and the way mercs operate the maps the game modes basically all of it, so pardon me when i lol my head off at the wasted time and effort thinking about tonnage increases and decreases

#285 Tiamat of the Sea

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:07 AM

View PostQuickdraw Crobat, on 11 May 2015 - 09:56 PM, said:

In a sad sort of a way, I find it a wonder that people are assuming the fluff reasoning given in the opening post of this thread is the actual reasoning for the change.

Rather than coming to the eminently more reasonable conclusion that the +10 tonne IS drop deck was an experiment they did that they chose to use during the Tukayyid event as well, and have now concluded and either decided it was not the way to go, or are currently working over the data gathered during that time to figure out what to do next.


Gonna restate this.

Really wish people around here would quit panicking and raging as though every change were inherently a bad thing or some kind of personal attack.

#286 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:09 AM

View PostSpadejack, on 12 May 2015 - 08:00 AM, said:

Very nice, now Clans and IS are equal in case of tonnage ;)

I still wonder why IS fan boys are crying? Isnt enough to get the current meta on their side, they have to get more tonnage as well on CW drops?

Now, to put things as they should be, unnerf clan tech. With the current quircks on IS mechs, what IS players need is to bring their meta mechs "i win button" to level the ground with clan mechs.

Remember that the clans only won tukayid because of the main merc top competitive teams changed to the clans, otherwise, clans would be runned over.


The meta is Timber Wolves, Stormcrows and Dire Wolves, along with maybe Hellbringers. Not really sure what IS meta you are talking about.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 12 May 2015 - 08:09 AM.


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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:15 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 12 May 2015 - 08:09 AM, said:


The meta is Timber Wolves, Stormcrows and Dire Wolves, along with maybe Hellbringers. Not really sure what IS meta you are talking about.


LOL I would almost take this seriously if I did not think you were joking. If you ARE not joking good one troll on.

#288 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:17 AM

View PostTopper McGruff, on 12 May 2015 - 08:15 AM, said:


LOL I would almost take this seriously if I did not think you were joking. If you ARE not joking good one troll on.


Ask top competitive players if you don't believe me. If you are losing its because you are being outplayed unfortunately.

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:20 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 12 May 2015 - 08:17 AM, said:


Ask top competitive players if you don't believe me. If you are losing its because you are being outplayed unfortunately.


Very amusing I am sure everybody here agrees there is NO IS META just like there is NO CLAN META. LOL Done with this argument. Have a nice Day.

Edited by Topper McGruff, 12 May 2015 - 08:20 AM.


#290 Der Hesse

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:25 AM

As always Clan Wolf players that denie the truth that they are sitting on the best mechs in game.

#291 CrushLibs

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:26 AM

Gas you must only play PUG drops and not CW. DW is crap in CW matches and only does decent in pug drops.

Yes lots of SC and TW since they are decently fast at 89 kph but a 53kph DW is garbage in CW.

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:27 AM

View PostTopper McGruff, on 12 May 2015 - 08:15 AM, said:


LOL I would almost take this seriously if I did not think you were joking. If you ARE not joking good one troll on.


Sooooo, your are saying thats IS has the better Mechs?

#293 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:31 AM

View PostCrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 08:26 AM, said:

Gas you must only play PUG drops and not CW. DW is crap in CW matches and only does decent in pug drops.

Yes lots of SC and TW since they are decently fast at 89 kph but a 53kph DW is garbage in CW.


Good thing there aren't any comp tourney drops in CW then!

View PostTopper McGruff, on 12 May 2015 - 08:20 AM, said:


Very amusing I am sure everybody here agrees there is NO IS META just like there is NO CLAN META. LOL Done with this argument. Have a nice Day.


There is an IS meta, the Clan meta just happens to be better ;)

#294 CrushLibs

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:34 AM

View PostDer Hesse, on 12 May 2015 - 08:25 AM, said:

As always Clan Wolf players that denie the truth that they are sitting on the best mechs in game.


Best mechs in which game ?? CW or solo queue??

Clan lights slow and fewer hard points
Clan med has one decent mech the SC rest have few hard points or run tooo hot
Clan heavies -- MD and HB both lack ENDO but a decent overall TW runs hot but is best clan heavy
Clan Assaults -- DW great firepower but slow and easy to kill , Gar = POS , WH decent but torso is gimped with DHS.

IS has a laundry list of over quirked mechs to choose from , LCT, FS , Spiders and up the entire IS weight ladder

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:38 AM

View PostCrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 08:34 AM, said:


Best mechs in which game ?? CW or solo queue??

Clan lights slow and fewer hard points
Clan med has one decent mech the SC rest have few hard points or run tooo hot
Clan heavies -- MD and HB both lack ENDO but a decent overall TW runs hot but is best clan heavy
Clan Assaults -- DW great firepower but slow and easy to kill , Gar = POS , WH decent but torso is gimped with DHS.

IS has a laundry list of over quirked mechs to choose from , LCT, FS , Spiders and up the entire IS weight ladder


SC decent?
HB, TW decent and gimped?
Sir, we are not playing the same game!

#296 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:39 AM

View PostCrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 08:34 AM, said:


Best mechs in which game ?? CW or solo queue??

Clan lights slow and fewer hard points
Clan med has one decent mech the SC rest have few hard points or run tooo hot
Clan heavies -- MD and HB both lack ENDO but a decent overall TW runs hot but is best clan heavy
Clan Assaults -- DW great firepower but slow and easy to kill , Gar = POS , WH decent but torso is gimped with DHS.

IS has a laundry list of over quirked mechs to choose from , LCT, FS , Spiders and up the entire IS weight ladder


Yes IS has better lights, no disputing that, but the Arctic Cheetah will shake things up a bit for sure.

I mainly refer to public type matches because that is typically what comp drops are like. In CW teamwork matters more than anything. If you can't use your 90 kph death ball to out maneuver and overwhelm the enemy then I don't know what to tell you.

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:49 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 12 May 2015 - 08:39 AM, said:


Yes IS has better lights, no disputing that, but the Arctic Cheetah will shake things up a bit for sure.

I mainly refer to public type matches because that is typically what comp drops are like. In CW teamwork matters more than anything. If you can't use your 90 kph death ball to out maneuver and overwhelm the enemy then I don't know what to tell you.


Death balls work better in public matches than CW in CW you can bring 12 stalkers which tank and leg clan mechs very quickly. In public you can only take 3 assaults. I can tell you don't play much CW

Warhawk has gimped torso hard points or lack there of, I kill SC all the time in public matches its not the godlike impossible to kill like the Firestarters you can hit with a 72 alpha while its sitting still and just to have it turn and look at you and run off with no damage.

#298 Der Hesse

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:54 AM

Lol.....got that Gas? You don´t play much Cw! ^^
This guy knows it all. *rofl*

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:55 AM

View PostCrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 08:49 AM, said:


Death balls work better in public matches than CW in CW you can bring 12 stalkers which tank and leg clan mechs very quickly. In public you can only take 3 assaults. I can tell you don't play much CW

Warhawk has gimped torso hard points or lack there of, I kill SC all the time in public matches its not the godlike impossible to kill like the Firestarters you can hit with a 72 alpha while its sitting still and just to have it turn and look at you and run off with no damage.


I have played a lot of CW. I have a secret for you. Stalkers can get legged too. More easily in fact, because they are slow and have fat legs.

I don't seem to have that much of a problem with Firestarters. When I miss, I know its because I missed.

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:56 AM

Wait, what? THe issue is clan population, not IS power.





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