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[the wr3ck]

Not purchasing more packs is exactly what people need to do. I was about to buy a stalker **** pack and I would of been even more pissed than I am now. I just wasted c bills on a second raven 2x. I have wasted too much money on mechs that are quirked and then requirked in the opposite direction. I for one don't like the gauss mechanic and hate missiles. I don't like pgi taking the customization out of my mechs. Clan mechs already are limited with too many locked components.

[Logan Hawke]

Perhaps the reason those mechs were so popular and overused was because they were overperforming, hmmm? *gasp* could that really be the correlation you see?!

Edited by Logan Hawke, 16 May 2015 - 07:39 PM.

[ShinobiHunter]

the wr3ck, on 16 May 2015 - 05:42 PM, said:

Not purchasing more packs is exactly what people need to do. I was about to buy a stalker **** pack and I would of been even more pissed than I am now. I just wasted c bills on a second raven 2x. I have wasted too much money on mechs that are quirked and then requirked in the opposite direction. I for one don't like the gauss mechanic and hate missiles. I don't like pgi taking the customization out of my mechs. Clan mechs already are limited with too many locked components.

The Stalker mastery pack doesn't include the 4N, if I'm correct. You really aren't losing anything with this. A 2X is about an hours worth of playing, right? It's not like you spent actual money on something and they changed it on you. It's a well known fact that quirks are still being tweaked and likely will be for a long time. If you buy mechs only based on quirks, you're going to have a bad time of it.

It's a game, lighten up and try to have a little fun

[El Bandito]

the wr3ck, on 16 May 2015 - 04:07 PM, said:

The current round of quirks is PGI'S new business model. You all need to be aware of this so we can put a stop to it. They are constantly buffing under selling mechs then nerfing them after players have bought them. In the new set of nerfs they make firestarter , timbers, scarecrow, raven 2x, stalkers useless.

Cmon fellas, let's laugh at this guy.


Hahahahahahahaha!

Edited by El Bandito, 16 May 2015 - 07:49 PM.

[Triordinant]

Spadejack, on 16 May 2015 - 05:02 PM, said:

PGI's fixation on nerfing clan tech and mechs simply killed this game, at least for clans.

Asking for a refund on wave 3 and resistance2 packs.
Uninstaling!

[Ace Selin]

Spadejack, on 16 May 2015 - 05:02 PM, said:

PGI's fixation on nerfing clan tech and mechs simply killed this game, at least for clans.

Asking for a refund on wave 3 and resistance2 packs.
Uninstaling!

Not happy you cant keep playing OP mechs! I feel sad for you

[beerandasmoke]

You guys dont seem to understand. It wasnt the laservomit that was the problem but hitboxes and mobility. Now the timber will switch too ERPPC, Gauss and still be as powerful. Stormcrow will go all streak or Gauss with 3xERML. Nothing was fixed with this at all with this new patch. Those mechs will still be as powerful as they always were just with different loadouts.

[grendeldog]

El Bandito, on 16 May 2015 - 07:47 PM, said:

Cmon fellas, let's laugh at this guy.


Hahahahahahahaha!

The problem that I see is that they are nerfing the Timber and Crow right before the Wave 3 pack comes out. This leads me to believe they are trying to force players who want to play clan into buying the new pack.

Look, I don't play clan. So I'm not complaining because my mechs got the nerf-hammer. I'm saying that I think PGI is being shady and trying to artificially force players to get Wave 3. While you may not be clan, and heck, you may not even be a BT veteran who is hardcore IS all the way, there are definitely people out there who feel just as strongly about being clanners as there are IS fanatics. And so if PGI is willing to try and bully those folks into buying expensive mech packs for real money, there's no reason they can't do that some time later to IS players.

It's not a crystal clear aituation, and it's not certain that this is PGI's intention. But the timing of these nerfs is suspicious with Wave 3 so close at hand.

[Eider]

Next thing you know they will be calling themselves the washington redskins.

grendeldog, on 16 May 2015 - 08:15 PM, said:

The problem that I see is that they are nerfing the Timber and Crow right before the Wave 3 pack comes out. This leads me to believe they are trying to force players who want to play clan into buying the new pack.

Look, I don't play clan. So I'm not complaining because my mechs got the nerf-hammer. I'm saying that I think PGI is being shady and trying to artificially force players to get Wave 3. While you may not be clan, and heck, you may not even be a BT veteran who is hardcore IS all the way, there are definitely people out there who feel just as strongly about being clanners as there are IS fanatics. And so if PGI is willing to try and bully those folks into buying expensive mech packs for real money, there's no reason they can't do that some time later to IS players.

It's not a crystal clear aituation, and it's not certain that this is PGI's intention. But the timing of these nerfs is suspicious with Wave 3 so close at hand.

Yea because everyone knows the timber and crow dont need nerfs! oh wait.. they do.. they totally do.

[Kilo 40]

Logan Hawke, on 16 May 2015 - 07:38 PM, said:

Perhaps the reason those mechs were so popular and overused was because they were overperforming, hmmm? *gasp* could that really be the correlation you see?!

or perhaps it's because their alternatives are just really really bad.

the IS has 11 medium mechs. some good, some bad, some just OK. result....people play many different IS mediums.

clans have 3 medium mechs. 2 bad, 1 very good. result...people play the one viable medium mech.

[Eider]

Kilo 40, on 16 May 2015 - 08:21 PM, said:

or perhaps it's because their alternatives are just really really bad.

the IS has 11 medium mechs. some good, some bad, some just OK. result....people play many different IS mediums.

clans have 3 medium mechs. 2 bad, 1 very good. result...people play the one viable medium mech.

Dont kid yourself everyone knows they are part of the holy trinity god mechs 3. Somewhere a thunderbolt is laughing at you now. Clanners cried to high heaven about that little mech that was nowhere near godmode. Yet we ignored the derpcrow and timbergod.

[GeoBlue]

Logan Hawke, on 16 May 2015 - 07:38 PM, said:

Perhaps the reason those mechs were so popular and overused was because they were overperforming, hmmm? *gasp* could that really be the correlation you see?!

OR it could be those like myself, who paid actual money for a package like the clans package so to speak only then because of crybabies WHO DIDNT PAY REAL MONEY( who pays pgi saleries) get said package morphed into something they didnt buy.....

[grendeldog]

Eider, on 16 May 2015 - 08:20 PM, said:

Next thing you know they will be calling themselves the washington redskins.

Yea because everyone knows the timber and crow dont need nerfs! oh wait.. they do.. they totally do.

I would argue they don't need negative quirks - they need hitbox redesigns. Think about it: with laser puke much less of a viable option, clanners will move on to even more gauss plus ERPPC or whatever. But they'll still be using the Crow and Wolf because the rest of their heavy mechs are sucky (Summoner), fragile (Mad Dog), or underwhelming unless with ECM (Hellbringer).

So it'll still be all Crows and Wolves all the time - just with a different dominant meta.

Whereas by doing hitbox redesigns, PGI could have actually helped increase mech diversity on the clan side. But nope, let's not address the real issues; bandaids (quirks) all around for everything. Hell, there's no way to balance weapons in this game at all because a weapon that is OP one one chassis due to quirks may be underwhelming on another chassis without quirks for that weapon.

So instead of fixing hit registration, host state rewind, weapon balance, or hitboxes, we just get more quirks that make weapon balance between IS and clans and between energy, missile, and ballistic weapons on each side even more impossible!

EDIT: Wtf, band-aid$ is censored because it contains the word aid$? What the hell?

Edited by grendeldog, 16 May 2015 - 08:30 PM.

[GeoBlue]

PGI I have spent serious $$$ money on this game and you guys keep nerfing because of cry babies, therefore no more $ for YOU ever again!!!

[Logan Hawke]

GeoBlue, on 16 May 2015 - 08:25 PM, said:

OR it could be those like myself, who paid actual money for a package like the clans package so to speak only then because of crybabies WHO DIDNT PAY REAL MONEY( who pays pgi saleries) get said package morphed into something they didnt buy.....

Few things there friend:

1) Part of the EULA (you know, the thing you agree to to play the game) says in game stuff can change without notice.

2) I've bought every pack so far except the urbie, and don't regret it. I like it when PGI shows they're trying to balance mechs.

3) The only person sounding like a crybaby is the OP, that ragequit guy, and definitely without a fragment of a doubt, you.

Edited by Logan Hawke, 16 May 2015 - 08:30 PM.

[Eider]

Make them cry harder and i will purchase the next invasion/resistance pack.

[Kilo 40]

Eider, on 16 May 2015 - 08:25 PM, said:

Dont kid yourself everyone knows they are part of the holy trinity god mechs 3.

everyone ran timber wolves and storm crows during the battle of tukayyid. result? 53% win/loss ratio.

[Eider]

Kilo 40, on 16 May 2015 - 08:31 PM, said:

everyone ran timber wolves and storm crows during the battle of tukayyid. result? 53% win/loss ratio.

Who won that one again? and storm alone was what.. top 3 out of 5 used?

[grendeldog]

Finally, all you IS pilots gloating about clanners ragequitting the game and refunding their Wave 3 packs shouldn't be so damn gleeful - less players means this game dies that much sooner. And I like this game; I want to see it have a reasonable lifespan. But whether or not the ragequitting is justified, it still hurts all of us by reducing the number of players, reducing the number of people paying for mechs and thus paying to keep the servers on, and making CW even more of a ghost town than it is now.

Again, I play IS. Don't mistake this for clanner whining - I'm saying that less players hurts us all, even if they are being ridiculous by ragequitting.

EDIT: for terrible spellings.

Edited by grendeldog, 16 May 2015 - 08:34 PM.

[Devilsfury]

Mystere, on 16 May 2015 - 04:56 PM, said:

Which is why listening to the so-called "community" was a very bad idea from the start.

Seriously? I mean...seriously? Anyone with 1 day experience in this game knows that the FS-A is the most broken mech in game. Hitboxes/Hitreg on them is severely f'd up and the 8 SPL can eat through any mech in game with 1-4 alpha's. The 4N Stalker was crazy OP, guys in my unit regularly laugh about people crying about clan mechs when the 4N out shines 90% of the mechs out. The 2X needed to be toned down because any skilled pilot can put up gross damage with the 1 second burn time with 3LL and can alphas it 5-6x before overheating. As far as the SC, it had nothing to do with firepower. They are just crazy durable that drives most people crazy. (that and light pilots crying about streaks) TW needed no weapon nerfs just maybe a tweak to durability. So not all of the community agrees on everything but the majority can say that the FS and Stalker did need to scaled back for sure.