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[Star Wolves Admin Account]

Friends,

I have seen much hand ringing and whining over the last few days in regards to the Crow and Timberwolfs. I must say that the Star Wolves (SWOL) are amused at all of this. As the largest wolf unit in the game we wonder is the only thing most clan warriors know how to play, laser blaarg?

Our unit has already phased out of pure laser meta months ago in anticipation of this; the developers already said they want to move away from pure laser meta. Expect more mechs to be nerfed in the upcoming months.

It is time to separate the weak players from the strong; no longer and you mindlessly belch lasers all day and feign skill. You must now show true innovation and an ability to think as a team.

SWOL tactics division already has been running numerous modified drop decks and will continue to do so. Some work, some fail, and some are just funny but in the end we will persevere. We've been attacking our friends in the Jade Falcon recently not to seize planets but rather study the evolving meta for the upcoming weeks and I honestly think over 3/4 of clan players are going to have no idea what to do on Tuesday.

We're also looking forward to see the "competitive" units have to do something other than belch lasers all day. I have seen so much ego from these players and all they seem to know how to do is seize the high ground and target CTS with damage alphas as if this really required any great degree of skill.

Well these days are done and its time to separate the true players from the whiners. If are stuck in the past but are willing to look past a single phase of the meta consider joining SWOL; we will catch you up to speed on all the other types of play out there. Believe me, we've tried them all and we have other options.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Then PGI should buff Clan ballstics and PPCs.

Give SRMs, both IS and Clan a slight velocity buff and slight overall spread buff.

Buff IS PPCs a ilttle, mostly velocity there, lower ISERPPC heat some.

Lower quirks on the PPC mechs for IS a little.

[Star Wolves Admin Account]

LordKnightFandragon, on 17 May 2015 - 11:08 AM, said:

Then PGI should buff Clan ballstics and PPCs.

Give SRMs, both IS and Clan a slight velocity buff and slight overall spread buff.

Buff IS PPCs a ilttle, mostly velocity there, lower ISERPPC heat some.

Lower quirks on the PPC mechs for IS a little.

They will get to all of this in due time. Regardless we've been stomping IS 12 mans without pure laser belch for the last 2 months. We have options, we just need to use them

[Sarlic]

Can i rub your belly? Please make me rub your belly.

[Star Wolves Admin Account]

Sarlic, on 17 May 2015 - 11:10 AM, said:

Can i rub your belly? Please make me rub your belly.

The blue fist may not touch me

[LordKnightFandragon]

Blueduck, on 17 May 2015 - 11:10 AM, said:

They will get to all of this in due time. Regardless we've been stomping IS 12 mans without pure laser belch for the last 2 months. We have options, we just need to use them

Lol, I would love to pack the WHK-P with 4x CERPPC and blast away...but the 4x CLPL is so much better.....

Since swapping to CLPL I have taken my WHK-P from like 10 kills in the hole and a losing record to +13k and like 8 game positive win rate haha. I want to see the laser vomit meta die, but then imma have to relearn the WHK-P///just hope it can be with the 4x CERPPC and have them actually do something.

[Xetelian]

Blueduck.


Maybe you innovate, maybe your whole group runs MacGyver and succeeds.

However meta is better or it wouldn't be called the meta.

Outright nerfing the TBR and the SCR doesn't bother me directly but nerfing in general does, I don't run either in my CW deck and I don't play them solo queue because I have other mechs with cbill boosts.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Xetelian, on 17 May 2015 - 11:19 AM, said:

Blueduck.


Maybe you innovate, maybe your whole group runs MacGyver and succeeds.

However meta is better or it wouldn't be called the meta.

Outright nerfing the TBR and the SCR doesn't bother me directly but nerfing in general does, I don't run either in my CW deck and I don't play them solo queue because I have other mechs with cbill boosts.

Meta might work, but thinking outside the box, coordination and teamwork trumps all. Trying to farm your own stats is never the way to go. Work wtih your allies, cover them, save them, help them and likewise and that is how you win. As a TEAM....not as 12 mechs with laser vomit meta....

Deathballing...that trumps any laser vomit meta.....or atleast coordinated Deathballing.

[Green Mamba]

Dem Pay 2 Wins is hard to give up

[Yokaiko]

Green Mamba, on 17 May 2015 - 11:24 AM, said:

Dem Pay 2 Wins is hard to give up

Most of the mechs involved have been out for C-bills for a long time.

[Xetelian]

MacGyver or not, a coordinated militia with knives wont have good odds against another with swords.

[Johnny Z]

Finally a Clan pilot with some balls(The bouncing kind). Few and far between reading these forums.

[BigBenn]

Bravo!!! **applause**

Well spoken. There are so many options available to both IS and Clan mechs that there should be no crying at all. The changes are not sweeping, however they will force some players who are so focused on being a laser ***** to think about using ballistics or missiles. Oh the horror!

[Johnny Z]

See me crying a river that my STK 4N got nerfed? I will give it a try first.

The balance guys seen this coming and put the patch notes in early knowing the crying would be strong in the hopes that by tuesdays patch they will have run out of steam.

Worry not I am sure some of these players will find the energy to work up another tantrum by then.

Edited by Johnny Z, 17 May 2015 - 11:34 AM.

[Burktross]

So is this whole thread about whole uber l33t and cool you are for not laser spamming?
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[Yokaiko]

BigBenn, on 17 May 2015 - 11:30 AM, said:

Bravo!!! **applause**

Well spoken. There are so many options available to both IS and Clan mechs that there should be no crying at all. The changes are not sweeping, however they will force some players who are so focused on being a laser ***** to think about using ballistics or missiles. Oh the horror!

Ok so in the context of CW you can FULLY expect triple bringer drop decks.

You see the thing with ammo dependence and CW don't go very well, you end up ejecting becuase you lose your primary weapons. Dual AC10 timbers don't really carry a ton of ammo, particularly at UAC ROF SRM builds are god awefull hot.

That leaves streak crows, its litterally not worth bringing much else.

Johnny Z, on 17 May 2015 - 11:31 AM, said:

See me crying a river that my STK 4N got nerfed? I will give it a try first.

The balance guys seen this coming and put the patch notes in early knowing the crying would be strong in the hopes that by tuesdays patch they will have run out of steam.

Stalker takes a smaller hit than pretty much every Timberwolve, barely more than a Crow -D that is all damn missiles to start with.

Cry me a river.

[SirNotlag]

I am going to hold my tongue as I don't think the flood gates have been opened yet, I just think nerfing all the good outlier mechs creates a bad precedent, and I don't want a weekly special of Nerf and Surf constantly reducing down which ever mechs are considered good at the time.

I was really happy when quirks first came out because before that the stormcrows and tiberwolves where gods on the battlefield without compare. Quirks allowed the weaker mechs the ability to become powerful and useful, and i personally would have preferred if they tried to bring all the mechs up to the level of the stormcrows and TBRs rather than bring those 2 down.

I understand why the stormcrows, timbers and stalkers where nerfed as that was all you'd see in CW. But I don't understand why the ravens and firestarters where... you dont really see alot of lights so I think it would have been better to buff the other lights instead. Such as increasing the center torso and giving jump jet quirks to the jenner making those more viable.

I am just the kind of person that prefers hearing that the bad outliers where buffed to bring them in line with other mechs rather than hearing the good outliers where nerfed to scale back their power. But i do understand the fault in my logic as you'd have to increase the armour one week because you increased the power on canons last week.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Green Mamba, on 17 May 2015 - 11:24 AM, said:

Dem Pay 2 Wins is hard to give up

There is no such thing as P2W......nothing is so damn OP that if you buy it, it ensures a win......

Even release Clans were not that P2W amazing. Good? sure, but P2W OP? nah.

[Green Mamba]

Yokaiko, on 17 May 2015 - 11:27 AM, said:

Most of the mechs involved have been out for C-bills for a long time.

Dem Easy Mode is hard to give up

[Yokaiko]

Green Mamba, on 17 May 2015 - 11:43 AM, said:

Dem Easy Mode is hard to give up

I still have my IS drop deck(s) mostly based around Thunderbolts.