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#1 ShinobiHunter

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 05:00 PM

"Clammers are finally getting what they deserve. Their tears will fuel my fusion reactor"

"IS is so OP now. Clan mechs are dead forever. My life is ruined"

Can we please all drop the roleplay nonsense about Clans vs Inner Sphere when we're actually discussing game balance? It does matter in CW, but that's quite a small percentage of the game. If we could get past bashing the other imaginary side and try to work out a solution together it would be better for everyone in the long run. So, please everybody can we kiss and make up, then work together to make Comstar play nice with our toys.

#2 Yokaiko

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 05:24 PM

Been kurita for months...

Nope its not modified

#3 Serpieri

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 05:33 PM

So are all the butt hurt players trying to make themselves feel better? Or is Shinobi special and needs extra attention?

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 05:39 PM

Or am I reaching out to other adults to quit playing imaginary space enemies long enough to have a reasonable discussion?




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#5 El Bandito

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 05:48 PM

Today, the Clanners are complaining that "IS whiners have nerfed our rides". Tomorrow the same Clanners in turn will be called "whiners" once IS quirks get toned down.

Just play the damn game.

#6 LordKnightFandragon

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 05:49 PM

No doubt each side needs to quit claiming the other is SOooo00oo OP that the other needs nerfs like what hit the TBR/SCR....

Or like in the old days, the Victor...getting that list 5 miles long of mobility and agility nerfs....

Rather PGI needs to get a clue and actually try to balance their game and realize how their game and its pieces fit together.

Clans are using predominately laser vomit, TBRs and SCRs....why? PGI doesnt care, they just see the TBR/SCR is used alot and its winning, so it must be OP. Lets not look at the fact the other CLan mechs are less then desirable so not many really play them. THen they run laser vomit alot cuz the other weapons are actually so bad no one in their right mind would use them. And that Lasers had been buffed up so significantly that why would anyone want to use anything else?

Is TBR/SCR good? sure, but giving already long ass burn times even longer burn times? Anyone actually thinks that is the right move? Force a change of build by simply making one build useless? basically like waht happened to poptarts/PPC/AC builds, Guass builds.....lets not try to actually balance it, make changes, use the PTS and test stuff out......lets just make stuff so bad people change to something else.

THen after a few months and the next meta comes in, lets wait and nerf that to....then when that meta is useless we find another and eventually the cycle begins again...

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 05:50 PM

View PostShinobiHunter, on 18 May 2015 - 05:39 PM, said:

Or am I reaching out to other adults to quit playing imaginary space enemies long enough to have a reasonable discussion?




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Adults are just as bad as children - best of luck but reality is people want to stick it to the other guy. Sad but true.

#8 darkchylde

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 05:51 PM

Devs need to start buffing and stop nerfing.

#9 El Bandito

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 05:52 PM

View Postdarkchylde, on 18 May 2015 - 05:51 PM, said:

Devs need to start buffing and stop nerfing.


No. The TTK should go up across the board. Right now this isn't even a thinking man's game.

Edited by El Bandito, 18 May 2015 - 07:25 PM.


#10 Revis Volek

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 05:54 PM

View Postdarkchylde, on 18 May 2015 - 05:51 PM, said:

Devs need to start buffing and stop nerfing.



Why couldn't we just buff mechs until they were on par with each other? Why does there even HAVE to be nerfs?

Because that is a lot of work...and who wants to do work.

#11 darkchylde

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 05:55 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 18 May 2015 - 05:52 PM, said:


No. The TTK should go down across the board. Right now this isn't even a thinking man's game.


It never was. The game doesn't even have risk/reward mechanics - let alone working systems. It's a collage of failed band ****.

#12 LordKnightFandragon

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 05:59 PM

View PostDarthRevis, on 18 May 2015 - 05:54 PM, said:



Why couldn't we just buff mechs until they were on par with each other? Why does there even HAVE to be nerfs?

Because that is a lot of work...and who wants to do work.



You cannot know how much fun I would have tweaking all the numbers for the weapons in this game.

I have my own mod in Men of war, ive been tweaking numbers in it since like 2011 when I first started to make it. Its about where I want it now.

I would love to tweak MWO numbers.

I would spend the next 5 years playing in the PTS testing out number changes and all that haha.

Edited by LordKnightFandragon, 18 May 2015 - 05:59 PM.


#13 Mcgral18

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 06:20 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 18 May 2015 - 05:52 PM, said:


No. The TTK should go down across the board. Right now this isn't even a thinking man's game.


You actually want the Time To Kill to increase; as in it takes longer to kill something.


To decrease TTK is to make things die faster.

#14 El Bandito

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 07:24 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 18 May 2015 - 06:20 PM, said:


You actually want the Time To Kill to increase; as in it takes longer to kill something.


To decrease TTK is to make things die faster.



Correct. Editing it now.

Edited by El Bandito, 18 May 2015 - 07:25 PM.


#15 FupDup

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 07:26 PM

It's basically like this:

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#16 Eider

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 07:35 PM

View PostShinobiHunter, on 18 May 2015 - 05:39 PM, said:

Or am I reaching out to other adults to quit playing imaginary space enemies long enough to have a reasonable discussion?




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Impossible as those mechs they are crying about certainly did need a nerf. And realistically? They will be fine, just a bit less dps.

#17 LordKnightFandragon

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 08:48 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 18 May 2015 - 06:20 PM, said:


You actually want the Time To Kill to increase; as in it takes longer to kill something.


To decrease TTK is to make things die faster.



I dont think it should take less time to kill something. TTK seems about right when your firing 20-30 points of damage at a time. THe 60-100 point lolphas into peoples faces is when TTK seems entirely to short.....

#18 TercieI

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 09:02 PM

View PostFupDup, on 18 May 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:

It's basically like this:

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^Replaced the Atlas on Mt. Tryhard for Best MWO Comic Ever.

#19 Templar Dane

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 09:35 PM

View PostFupDup, on 18 May 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:

It's basically like this:

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Yep, but it seems the IS have been whining more and thus clanners are losing the whining battle.

#20 Davers

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 09:46 PM

View Postlordtzar, on 18 May 2015 - 09:35 PM, said:



Yep, but it seems the IS have been whining more and thus clanners are losing the whining battle.

I blame Gyrok. :P





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