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Cerll Will Be Unplayable On Stormcrow/timber


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#1 Alwrathandabout42ninjas

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 01:46 PM

Title says all. Clan ER Large's beam duration will be absolutely murdered in the name of " balance " for the Timberwolf Stormcrow on patch day.

Worst part of it is, a weapon that was not op at all will be hit just because of the large pulse/er med laser loadouts that have been popular.

Thanks PGI! You really made our day! I guess it was too much to ask for you to even consider about just nerfing largepulse/er meds when paired together! Now theres an idea for you! FFS.

Now most of my Timber builds get ******* on, which includes my 4 srm6, 2 er large build/2 er large/gauss, NONE OF THEM WHICH ARE OP. Thanks alot!

Edited by Alwrath, 18 May 2015 - 01:47 PM.


#2 FupDup

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 01:47 PM

Collateral Damage™.


Your choices are now to shift your build around a bit or replicate it on a different mech.

#3 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 01:47 PM

You can do quad er LL on a Timber with 1.68 beam duration. A bit worse then it already was, but not unplayable.

#4 Milocinia

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 01:48 PM

Don't load in so many laser omnipods *facepalm*

#5 Night Thastus

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 01:48 PM

Cry harder. You are a clanner. You will adapt and survive or you will perish. This is not an obstacle to whine over, this is one to be overcome, so that we may bring yet ever greater glory to the clans. There are plenty of builds that don't use your precious ER Larges and do perfectly fine.

As well, if you insist on using it, since you only need to have 2 energy slots, you can likely get away with around a 6% increased duration.

#6 Khobai

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 01:49 PM

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Don't load in so many laser omnipods *facepalm*


yeah because clans have so many other viable weapons than lasers.... derp.

your suggestion is bad and you should feel bad for suggesting it.

a better suggestion is simply to switch to another clan mech like the hellbringer and circumvent the penalties entirely. oh and get ecm as a bonus.

Edited by Khobai, 18 May 2015 - 01:50 PM.


#7 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 01:50 PM

View PostKhobai, on 18 May 2015 - 01:49 PM, said:


yeah because clans have so many other viable weapons than lasers.... derp.


Yeah, I think Gauss and 2 cLPL is probably going to be one of the best options now.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 18 May 2015 - 01:50 PM.


#8 Moldur

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 01:50 PM

List of solutions:

Switch factions

Gauss

Play the Orion only

#9 Khobai

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 01:51 PM

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Yeah, I think Gauss and 2 cLPL is probably going to be one of the best options now.


Gauss and 4 ERML was already a popular stormcrow build...

but now clans are basically down to 3 viable weapons, gauss, ERML, and CLPL.

#10 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 01:52 PM

View PostKhobai, on 18 May 2015 - 01:51 PM, said:


Gauss and 4 ERML was already a popular stormcrow build...

but now clans are basically down to 3 viable weapons, gauss, ERML, and CLPL.


So what you are saying is that you want fast cER PPCs back right? :D

#11 Khobai

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 02:00 PM

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So what you are saying is that you want fast cER PPCs back right?


i want a buff to clan ACs and a nerf to clan laser ranges.

and a reversal on these stupid quirks that fail to address the real problems with the game.

#12 Milocinia

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 02:24 PM

View PostKhobai, on 18 May 2015 - 01:49 PM, said:


yeah because clans have so many other viable weapons than lasers.... derp.

your suggestion is bad and you should feel bad for suggesting it.

a better suggestion is simply to switch to another clan mech like the hellbringer and circumvent the penalties entirely. oh and get ecm as a bonus.

That's totally incorrect and you shouldn't think that way.

The CUACs aren't great but they are usable and viable.

Step out of the laser mindset and start learning to use those UACs ;)

#13 Khobai

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 02:33 PM

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The CUACs aren't great but they are usable and viable.


lolol wut?

#14 FupDup

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 02:58 PM

In other news, it appears that 2 LPL + Gauss should still be workable.

TBR-PRIME

It gets a total of +15% duration and 15% slower reload (cooldown is such a stupid term), which puts the CLPL at about 1.288 seconds for duration.

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 03:07 PM

View PostFupDup, on 18 May 2015 - 02:58 PM, said:

In other news, it appears that 2 LPL + Gauss should still be workable.

TBR-PRIME

It gets a total of +15% duration and 15% slower reload (cooldown is such a stupid term), which puts the CLPL at about 1.288 seconds for duration.


I think most people will go with something like this considering it gets only 9% reduction, you don't need the left arm, and you get jump jets. Also you don't get the movement penalties associated with timber A side torso, and can buy everything for cbills.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...148ff16d7a9ba38

Edited by Skarlock, 18 May 2015 - 03:08 PM.


#16 FupDup

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 03:07 PM

View PostSkarlock, on 18 May 2015 - 03:07 PM, said:


I think most people will go with something like this considering it gets only 9% reduction, you don't need the left arm, and you get jump jets. Also you don't get the movement penalties associated with timber A side torso.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...148ff16d7a9ba38

But they're not mounted as high. :(

#17 Moldur

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 03:09 PM

View PostKhobai, on 18 May 2015 - 01:51 PM, said:


Gauss and 4 ERML was already a popular stormcrow build...

but now clans are basically down to 3 viable weapons, gauss, ERML, and CLPL.


don't forget flamers.

#18 Monkey Lover

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 03:11 PM

Why are you using a timber for 1500m attacks?

#19 Deathlike

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 04:21 PM

View PostFupDup, on 18 May 2015 - 02:58 PM, said:

In other news, it appears that 2 LPL + Gauss should still be workable.

TBR-PRIME

It gets a total of +15% duration and 15% slower reload (cooldown is such a stupid term), which puts the CLPL at about 1.288 seconds for duration.



That's so sad and subpar to a degree.

TBR-S

Use all that arm articulation to your own desire. You could probably use 2 JJs on the Prime (and use a Timberwolf-S left torso) if you can fudge the extra ton, but.. it relieves people of their quirk worries (only 6% duration nerf).

Edited by Deathlike, 18 May 2015 - 04:22 PM.


#20 FupDup

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 04:24 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 18 May 2015 - 04:21 PM, said:

That's so sad and subpar to a degree.

TBR-S

Use all that arm articulation to your own desire. You could probably use 2 JJs on the Prime (and use a Timberwolf-S left torso) if you can fudge the extra ton, but.. it relieves people of their quirk worries (only 6% duration nerf).

Those LPLs are mounted so far apart tho. :\

At least shove them in the same arm or something. Or one per side torso.

I don't recommend side-torso Goose because it might blow out your side earlier than expected...





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