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[Gyrok]

Alistair Winter, on 21 May 2015 - 01:51 AM, said:

Let's just see PGI buff Clan ballistics all across the board and then take it from there.

In my opinion, weapon quirks are in place to give firepower to the mechs that are handicapped either due to lack of hardpoints, bad hitbox / geometry / hardpoint location and, in the case of clan mechs, lack of endo / ferro upgrades. The Timber Wolf is a fantastic chassis. So let's see what people can do with it when PGI has made clan ballistics worth using again.

The ballistic arm on the TBR-C is pretty much considered a joke to most Timber Wolf players, but it doesn't have to be that way. So let's see what happens with the ballistics before we go crazy with another round of weapon quirks.

Do not hold your breath...PGI's idea of ballistic buffs before was 3% MG range on the Summoner...so keep that in mind.

Quick to put large nerfs on the clans, slow to show any love...been that way for a year now. Somehow I do not see that changing. I just wish there was even one member of PGI who liked clans more than IS. As it sits, they are all hardcore IS fans, and it shows.

[Pjwned]

While I don't really think a small missile buff is unreasonable, why should the Timberwolf get missile quirks so that they're better than average when the Timberwolf is already an exceptionally good mech and already does pretty well with missiles?

[Widowmaker1981]

I found laser vomit boring. I did it anyway because i dont like torso mounted SRMs, UAC5x2 build is better on the summoner (of all things lol) or the Hellbringer, due to weapon mounts, PPCs suck on everything that doesnt have velocity boosts (PLS FIX PPCs PGI).

I now have 1 timber ill use occasionally in CW with SSRM24 + 4ERML, and the others are in mothballs forever until PGI undoes these crazy overnerfs. It doesnt matter what they do with Ballistics, the Timber is a bad platform for those due to bad hardpoint locations and too many fixed heatsinks, and will be 100% replaced by the Cauldron Born.

[Hit the Deck]

Pjwned, on 25 May 2015 - 09:56 AM, said:

While I don't really think a small missile buff is unreasonable, why should the Timberwolf get missile quirks so that they're better than average when the Timberwolf is already an exceptionally good mech and already does pretty well with missiles?

Of course it's to give people incentive to equip their Timbies with shoulder missile racks! Without them, Timby just doesn't look right!

http://mwomercs.com/...lrm-quirks-pgi/

I admit that I'm guilty because I use a Gauss+LPL Timby in CW. But just for this event I promise!

[Xetelian]

A 1% per omni M mount buff would be too much. Any buffs are too much. This machine is a monster.

Edited by Xetelian, 25 May 2015 - 10:32 AM.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Gyrok, on 25 May 2015 - 09:43 AM, said:

. I just wish there was even one member of PGI who liked clans more than IS. As it sits, they are all hardcore IS fans, and it shows.

Prove it or STFU.

[Nothing Whatsoever]

Dunno about SRM range quirks.

I'd consider ST structure quirks for when the Ears are in use.

[Moldur]

Mizeur, on 21 May 2015 - 02:34 PM, said:

OP, what's the case for buffing SRMs?

You've got a 75-ton heavy that goes 90kph with jumpjets. 4xSRM6 is 48 damage. UAC20 is 20 on the alpha with another 20 on the double-tap. That's 68 damage on an alpha, 88 damage with the followup.

The Orion can kind of match that on damage but loses on speed and maneuverability.

Orion
Losing.
Pick one.

[Pjwned]

Hit the Deck, on 25 May 2015 - 10:28 AM, said:

Of course it's to give people incentive to equip their Timbies with shoulder missile racks! Without them, Timby just doesn't look right!

http://mwomercs.com/...lrm-quirks-pgi/

I admit that I'm guilty because I use a Gauss+LPL Timby in CW. But just for this event I promise!

I don't necessarily agree that missiles should be made more attractive with missile quirks, but since the missiles do add significant extra geometry I guess I probably wouldn't vehemently argue against it either as long as the quirks were reasonable.

It's just hard to argue for positive quirks for Timberwolves considering how good they are already.

[Super Trooper]

Lord Scarlett Johan, on 25 May 2015 - 10:39 AM, said:

Prove it or STFU.

Russ commented about it in one of the townhalls last winter. Don't remember which one it was.

[Hit the Deck]

Pjwned, on 25 May 2015 - 11:01 AM, said:

I don't necessarily agree that missiles should be made more attractive with missile quirks, but since the missiles do add significant extra geometry I guess I probably wouldn't vehemently argue against it either as long as the quirks were reasonable.

It's just hard to argue for positive quirks for Timberwolves considering how good they are already.

Aside from the bigger hitboxes it creates, more people will bring LRMs to fight so they can "gimp" their TBRs further. These positive missile quirks would actually "nerf" the Timberwolves and there would be no problem with that, right?

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Super Trooper, on 25 May 2015 - 12:47 PM, said:

Russ commented about it in one of the townhalls last winter. Don't remember which one it was.

Not proof. Cough up proof or stop lying.

[Gyrok]

Lord Scarlett Johan, on 25 May 2015 - 10:39 AM, said:

Prove it or STFU.

They have stated it all on streams multiple times...none of them like the clans. Russ has outright stated he likes Liao, and hates clans.

EDIT: I am amazed that you are even contesting this...it is common knowledge...LOL!

Edited by Gyrok, 26 May 2015 - 04:59 AM.

[Gyrok]

Lord Scarlett Johan, on 25 May 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

Not proof. Cough up proof or stop lying.

ShinVector, on 19 February 2015 - 08:23 PM, said:

Russ @1hr 19min: (Around the second question on Q&A section):
Neema working on Lasers Hit Detection fixes... Weeeeeee....
It is happening...

On an Interesting note: Russ confirmed to be LIAO !

Feb 19th TH meeting, Russ confirms he is Liao.

The others have done so multiple times as well (confirmed IS)...there is currently no pro-clan developer on the staff at PGI.

Edited by Gyrok, 26 May 2015 - 05:03 AM.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Mizeur, on 21 May 2015 - 02:34 PM, said:

OP, what's the case for buffing SRMs?

You've got a 75-ton heavy that goes 90kph with jumpjets. 4xSRM6 is 48 damage. UAC20 is 20 on the alpha with another 20 on the double-tap. That's 68 damage on an alpha, 88 damage with the followup.

The Orion can kind of match that on damage but loses on speed and maneuverability.

48 dmg, from SRMs? lol....more like 4 here, 2 there, 6 over yonder, 2 up under that, 20 lost to hit reg issues, 5 more in the arm pit, the rest just fly off into the never ever sphere....Even from 2 inches away SRMs spread all over hte damn place....ive put 4x ASRM 6s into the back of the TG Catapult and it took me like 6 volleys from kissing range to kill it.....

Gyrok, on 26 May 2015 - 05:03 AM, said:

Feb 19th TH meeting, Russ confirms he is Liao.

The others have done so multiple times as well (confirmed IS)...there is currently no pro-clan developer on the staff at PGI.

LOL, omg, so if they hate the goddamn clans so much why did they not start this game in 3015 like that one MW video showed? THen there would be no damn clans at all and this entire debacle wouldnt even be a thing. I love my Warhawks and Timbers and CLan efficiency and better gear, but honestly, I was willing to give this game a shot when it was only IS vs IS.

I wanted to pilot a Zeus, Mauler, Awesome and maybe a Highlander. A Centurion as well.....but its just when clans come in, I feel compelled to go Clan. I love putting 40t of weapons into a 35t mech =D

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Gyrok, on 26 May 2015 - 05:03 AM, said:

Feb 19th TH meeting, Russ confirms he is Liao.

The others have done so multiple times as well (confirmed IS)...there is currently no pro-clan developer on the staff at PGI.

Watched that one. No where in there did he say he hated clans. He said his favorite House was Liao, but he never stated he hated clans. Nor have any of the devs in any of the streams.

So try again. Where have they said they hated clans? Or are you just that delusional?

[Gyrok]

Lord Scarlett Johan, on 26 May 2015 - 07:14 AM, said:

Watched that one. No where in there did he say he hated clans. He said his favorite House was Liao, but he never stated he hated clans. Nor have any of the devs in any of the streams.

So try again. Where have they said they hated clans? Or are you just that delusional?

I never said that they all hate clans...you missed something somewhere...Russ has stated before he does not like clans. Though he also said some interesting things about mechs at another point referencing the TW. So, he may be fickle about what seems popular at the time...

I said...everyone on the PGI staff prefer IS...

They do...truthfully. Not one of them likes any clan more than IS. Their bias clearly shows through in balancing...

Edited by Gyrok, 26 May 2015 - 10:36 AM.

[MechWarrior5152251]

I never put missile pods on my TBRs. Those ears drastically reduce your life span on the battle field. Without them the TBR is great at staying under cover popping out and killing. With the ears you are just too easy to hit...