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#21 Deathlike

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:51 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 22 May 2015 - 09:44 AM, said:

There is a stock variant (the B ) with 2 Gauss Rifles and 2 LBX 2s. Should be able to drop the lbx's for more ammo, armor, and a couple ER MLs.


2 LBX2s is 10 tons for armor (assuming you convert the LBX2 ammo into Gauss) and other stuff.

That powercreep will escalate quickly...

#22 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:01 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 22 May 2015 - 09:51 AM, said:


2 LBX2s is 10 tons for armor (assuming you convert the LBX2 ammo into Gauss) and other stuff.

That powercreep will escalate quickly...


Its not power creep, its expanding the diversity of effective mechs/loadouts.

#23 Deathlike

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:11 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 22 May 2015 - 10:01 AM, said:

Its not power creep, its expanding the diversity of effective mechs/loadouts.


That's what she said!

:P

#24 Mcgral18

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:14 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 22 May 2015 - 09:38 AM, said:


It'll compete with the Gausscat and Gaussjager...

Besides, how much free tonnage will it have for other weapons? :P

I'm still kinda chuckling at people trying to run the dual Gaussdog.

It's all about that preemptive nerf! :P


37.5 tons.


Issues I've found were crit slots. Impossible to Sword and Board Gauss, only in either arm.

Can't fit 3 UACs in the same arm (but can throw the 3rd in the other ST). Issue here, 4 UACs leaves pitiful ammo (9.5 tons , 10.5 if you strip the shield arm completely)
3 UACs, 5 ERMLs, 10.5 tons of ammo and 13 DHS (with 4JJs) will be pretty hot, but possibly acceptable. 5 crit slots remaining


Dual Gauss and 4 ERMLs (or ERPPC) are not an issue for crits.


It cannot fit an LB20x, not exactly a loss.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:16 AM

The next Clan heavy is probably a choice between the Night Gyr and the Linebacker... So do we want to prime the pump for more PowerCreep™ and another dominant mech, or have a total trash heavy that gets both the speed and the firepower of an Adder? There's not much in-between.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:38 AM

View PostFupDup, on 22 May 2015 - 10:16 AM, said:

The next Clan heavy is probably a choice between the Night Gyr and the Linebacker... So do we want to prime the pump for more PowerCreep™ and another dominant mech, or have a total trash heavy that gets both the speed and the firepower of an Adder? There's not much in-between.


Well, we need to figure out the next Clan 90-tonner and 40-tonner (and forget the Clan Light, it doesn't seem to matter after the Cheetah) to fill the gaps...

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:39 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 22 May 2015 - 10:38 AM, said:


Well, we need to figure out the next Clan 90-tonner and 40-tonner (and forget the Clan Light, it doesn't seem to matter after the Cheetah) to fill the gaps...

I'd rather have the medium be a certain 50 tonner instead of 40, because I don't want a Nova-sized model with reduced armor capacity...

#28 Andi Nagasia

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:40 AM

the idea of this topic is Variants available 3054, not up an coming mechs, :)
that said Russ does have allot on his plate, NewMechLab, Decals, 2MechPacks, 4v4CW, NewPlayerExperance,
But ya i dont think ECM DWF will change much, (O NO's its the Slowest ECM mech in the game,... wow :) )

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:42 AM

View PostFupDup, on 22 May 2015 - 10:39 AM, said:

I'd rather have the medium be a certain 50 tonner instead of 40, because I don't want a Nova-sized model with reduced armor capacity...


Names please.

Did you say Uziel? :P

#30 FupDup

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:43 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 22 May 2015 - 10:42 AM, said:


Names please.

Did you say Uziel? :P

We're talking about Clan gundams I thought. :\

Huntsman. Basically a Stormcrow that's 5 tons lighter but can jump, at the cost of being Nova speed.

Edited by FupDup, 22 May 2015 - 10:53 AM.


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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:52 AM

View PostFupDup, on 22 May 2015 - 10:43 AM, said:

We're talking about Clan gundams I thought. :\

Huntsman. Basically a Stormcrow that's 5 tons lighter but can jump, at the cost of being Nova speed.

http://www.sarna.net...man_(Nobori-nin)


Brainfart.

The link is kinda broken.

#32 FupDup

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:54 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 22 May 2015 - 10:52 AM, said:


Brainfart.

The link is kinda broken.

The forum keeps eating part of the link when I copypaste it in. :\

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:56 AM

View PostScout Derek, on 21 May 2015 - 06:48 PM, said:

SOON.


You forgot the Trademark symbol, ™. :lol:

Edited by Nightmare1, 22 May 2015 - 10:58 AM.


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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:57 AM

Would love some of these. ECM DWF is crazy awesome.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 11:16 AM

Let's see...

BJ-2: Sure, no new tech, timeline's fine. Only pause is SRM 24 builds, but other mechs can do that already.

CPLT-C3: Arrow IV artillery, unlikely.

Mist Lynx E: ATMs, unlikely given switchable ammo issues.

Kit Fox G: Don't see an issue. Heck, this resembles the baseline version in MW4.

Nova G: Not in MUL or Sarna. Based on MUL, looks to be non-canon. I'd say unlikely.

Stormcrow E: ATMs again.

Mad Dog D: ATMs again.

Hellbringer F: That's not the F config. The F has an LBX 10 and ERML in each arm, an ERML in both side torsos and an SRM 6 in the RT. The actual F config? Sure, no problem.

Summoner F: No problem in the tech.

Warhawk D: ATMs again.

Dire Wolf C: ATMs and a one-shot SSRM4. Unlikely for a while.


As for remaining Clan Omnis...
Lights
20 - Fire Moth (Dasher) (2874) - Unlikely. So stupid fast it'd break the game engine with MASC active.

Mediums
40 - Battle Cobra (2873) Standard Engine.
40 - Viper (Dragonfly) (2940)
40 - Phantom (3052)
40 - Pouncer (3050)
40 - Coyotl (2854) - Notably not in production at all, not even spare parts, and only Prime & A configs existed.
45 - Mongrel (Grendel) (3053)
50 - Huntsman (Nobori-nin) (3048)
55 - Black Lanner (3052)
55 - Stooping Hawk (2900) Standard Engine.

Heavy
60 - Lupus (2857) Second line. Basis for Mad Dog. Based on Archer and Bombardier. Standard Engine.
65 - Crossbow (2870) Based on the old Age of War Crossbow. Rare. Standard Engine.
65 - Linebacker (3052) Designed to be faster replacement for Timber Wolf.
75 - Night Gyr (3052)
75 - Woodsman (2866) Direct predecessor of the Timber Wolf, Gargoyle, and Naga. Only Prime and A. No longer in service. Standard Engine.

Assault
80 - Naga (2945) Unlikely, due to fixed Arrow IV launchers. Rare.
90 - Kingfisher (2887) Fills tonnage hole. Standard engine.
95 - Turkina (3052) No codified alt configs until 3058.

-edit- An idea: a "Firsts" Pack.
Would contain the Raptor (First IS omni), Coyotl (First Omni), and Mackie (First BattleMech).
Not sure on the heavy.

Edited by Lugin, 22 May 2015 - 11:41 AM.






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