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#1 DjPush

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:59 PM

Could you at least play with your food before you eat it? If you drop against a PUG team in CW can you at least let them enjoy the match before you smoosh them? Or is it your intention to drive the majority of the player base (some of them trying CW for the first time) away from CW. I know players who are no longer interested in CW because they don't want to get stomped 9 to 48.

We all know you are going to win.. just try to let the others have fun with it too.

Edited by DjPush, 22 May 2015 - 10:01 PM.


#2 El Bandito

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:04 PM

"A lion must use all his strength to crush his prey, even if it is a lowly hare." Some ancient proverb.

#3 Xetelian

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:08 PM

When I drop against a premade I just want it over with as fast as possible...unless there is an event that I need 80 points for.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:08 PM

View PostDjPush, on 22 May 2015 - 09:59 PM, said:

Could you at least play with your food before you eat it? If you drop against a PUG team in CW can you at least let them enjoy the match before you smoosh them? Or is it your intention to drive the majority of the player base (some of them trying CW for the first time) away from CW. I know players who are no longer interested in CW because they don't want to get stomped 9 to 48.

We all know you are going to win.. just try to let the others have fun with it too.


Well, what tends to happen is this: Your average 12 man drop plays hard regardless, because otherwise you get sloppy, then build bad habits that bite you in the ass when you play a better team.

They're not trying to be a****les, just playing the game.

#5 DjPush

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:10 PM

I personally don't care. I know it's a thing that happens in CW. It doesn't happen all the time. However, the amount of graoning I hear in VOIP and players I know that won't play CW anymore, are discouraged by these kinds of drops. I personally would like to see more people play CW. Would help drop wait times.

View PostDjPush, on 22 May 2015 - 10:09 PM, said:

I personally don't care. I know it's a thing that happens in CW. It doesn't happen all the time. However, the amount of graoning I hear in VOIP and players I know that won't play CW anymore, are discouraged by these kinds of drops. I personally would like to see more people play CW. Would help drop wait times.


Yeah.. I guess I can see that.

#6 FupDup

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:12 PM

The proper terminology for this situation is "ggclose."

#7 MechWarrior849305

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:17 PM

View PostWintersdark, on 22 May 2015 - 10:08 PM, said:


Well, what tends to happen is this: Your average 12 man drop plays hard regardless, because otherwise you get sloppy, then build bad habits that bite you in the ass when you play a better team.

They're not trying to be a****les, just playing the game.

When we are playing even 5-6, not even close to 12-man against PUGs, I always tend to say: "C'mon guyz, we have to play even worse than we average do, cause we might get even more nerfs :lol: ".
Sure thing, if you play full trial deck you would cry about super OPed Clan/IS mechs

#8 A big brave boulder of meat

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:24 PM

Why would you want organized groups to intentionally play poorly? I just have fun playing..I win and lose. I always seem to have fun. Maybe I'm doing it wrong?

Also, DJpush...Did you just make a post, Then quote yourself agreeing with yourself? ;P

#9 Aresye

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:55 PM

For the Tukayyid event, whenever we found ourselves against 12 solos, I'd make my guys play like true clanners. No artillery/air strikes, no focus fire (1 warrior per target), and sometimes even turned our HUDs off, playing without a crosshair, map, or any targeting data whatsoever.

It didn't make a difference. We'd still stomp the other side 48-10.

Some players are just bad man. I honestly don't know what else we could have done to "help" the other side.

On the other hand, we've also fought some very tough teams full of solo players, so it really depends on the average skill level of the team. A lot of times when you get stomped by a 12man team it's because the 12man is more coordinated, but a lot of stomps result simply because one side is leagues better than the other when it comes to average skill level.

#10 DjPush

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:55 PM

View PostTrollvomiT, on 22 May 2015 - 10:24 PM, said:

Why would you want organized groups to intentionally play poorly? I just have fun playing..I win and lose. I always seem to have fun. Maybe I'm doing it wrong?

Also, DJpush...Did you just make a post, Then quote yourself agreeing with yourself? ;P


Holy crap!! I did didn't I... Haha! I was actually tring to quote Wintersdark post and agree whith him. For some reason it quoted my own post.

Weird..

Edited by DjPush, 22 May 2015 - 10:56 PM.


#11 Chuck Jager

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 01:29 AM

Remember the fat kids who cried when they had to run the mile in pe. Well they got really good at video games while the other kids did after schools sports and later on had dates.

These folks are out for revenge and they have zero sympathy and all the time in the world in their moms basement

#12 Mycrus

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 01:36 AM

View PostAresye Kerensky, on 22 May 2015 - 10:55 PM, said:

For the Tukayyid event, whenever we found ourselves against 12 solos, I'd make my guys play like true clanners. No artillery/air strikes, no focus fire (1 warrior per target), and sometimes even turned our HUDs off, playing without a crosshair, map, or any targeting data whatsoever.

It didn't make a difference. We'd still stomp the other side 48-10.

Some players are just bad man. I honestly don't know what else we could have done to "help" the other side.

On the other hand, we've also fought some very tough teams full of solo players, so it really depends on the average skill level of the team. A lot of times when you get stomped by a 12man team it's because the 12man is more coordinated, but a lot of stomps result simply because one side is leagues better than the other when it comes to average skill level.


So thats your excuse figures...

View PostDjPush, on 22 May 2015 - 09:59 PM, said:

Could you at least play with your food before you eat it? If you drop against a PUG team in CW can you at least let them enjoy the match before you smoosh them? Or is it your intention to drive the majority of the player base (some of them trying CW for the first time) away from CW. I know players who are no longer interested in CW because they don't want to get stomped 9 to 48.

We all know you are going to win.. just try to let the others have fun with it too.


No quarter to clammers

#13 Kiiyor

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 01:39 AM

View PostXetelian, on 22 May 2015 - 10:08 PM, said:

When I drop against a premade I just want it over with as fast as possible...unless there is an event that I need 80 points for.


I spend every available ounce of my concentration on getting at least one headshot. If my score is pitiful at the same time, all the more better.

Because nothing is quite so cathartic as listening to someone from the 12 man stomping the paste out of you whine about fair play and accusing you of cheating.

#14 bad arcade kitty

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 01:42 AM

View PostKiiyor, on 23 May 2015 - 01:39 AM, said:


I spend every available ounce of my concentration on getting at least one headshot.



haha, i got now why my teammate in a game right now complained that it was not their day since they were headshot two times in a row

you were on their team :3

#15 anonymous161

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 01:45 AM

View Postbad arcade kitty, on 22 May 2015 - 10:48 PM, said:

i made a suggestion in the cw section that if all pugs eject and suicide 4 times at the very beginning on seeing a full premade it will deny the premade c-bills, exp, score points and fun and will be basically a ghost drop for them while saving time for the pugs

i wish it was made a customary rule to eject when your team is pugs and their a full/almost full premade



Thats a pretty pathetic way to play the game. If you are going to do this then do even bother playing you are not only wasting your own time but theirs after waiting for the match to even begin.

#16 bad arcade kitty

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 01:49 AM

View PostDarth Bane001, on 23 May 2015 - 01:45 AM, said:



Thats a pretty pathetic way to play the game. If you are going to do this then do even bother playing you are not only wasting your own time but theirs after waiting for the match to even begin.


dunno about you i dont enjoy being spawncamped for the whole match

too bad most of people dont support my idea... would be great if people actually massively did it, cw would probably get a proper queue change

#17 Pat Kell

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 01:49 AM

Try to put a positive spin on it...by facing opponents that are better or more organized than you are, you gain the opportunity to learn something from it, to get better....would be hard to say that if all you ever did was face other solo players and beat them soundly every time.

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 01:54 AM

I'm a solo, teamless pugger and I don't care if I go against a 12 man or not. It could be the SJR or EMP or 228 comp team for all I care. Sometimes you're going to play against elite teams, sometimes you're not, sometimes you'll even get a 6 or 8 man elite team on your side. Just deal with it. If you don't want to roll with your own 12 man, stick to single queue. I've qualified every game I've played and I'm already done with the event. I've won maybe 3/4 of my matches, again, as a solo, teamless pugger.

Why does it always have to be the *other* guy/team that is the problem? Why can't people take control of their own situation and come up with a solution on their own?

Edited by Skarlock, 23 May 2015 - 01:54 AM.


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Posted 23 May 2015 - 01:57 AM

View PostSkarlock, on 23 May 2015 - 01:54 AM, said:

I'm a solo, teamless pugger and I don't care if I go against a 12 man or not. It could be the SJR or EMP or 228 comp team for all I care.


well i met 228 (i think, some 2** number) today
**** spawn campers
i do care when i am spawn camped

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 02:10 AM

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