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[NeoGenesis For Answer]

With all the negative quirk additions to the TBR recently, would it be crazy if it recieved some ppc quirks to offset its negative laser quirks on some (all?(unlikely)) of its variants?

I am by no means the best at this game, if you want you can look at my mechs in my file and I have 3 adders and 3 TBRs, so maybe a little bias. However the burn times on the TBR are a little ridiculous and Ive come to love the dual ppc loadout and quirks on my adder prime.

[Gas Guzzler]

I would love that, which may be a bad sign... but I'll take it

[LordKnightFandragon]

They should just start by buffing PPCs.....

[Revis Volek]

Give me long bean time....pfff i go PPFLD!

2xERPPC and a GOOSE! FTW!

But yea...they are still too hot.

Edited by DarthRevis, 27 May 2015 - 02:42 PM.

[FupDup]

Add something stupid like +20% MG RoF on the Prime Center Torso, just for the sheer derp value.

[NeoGenesis For Answer]

LordKnightFandragon, on 27 May 2015 - 02:40 PM, said:

They should just start by buffing PPCs.....

Probably a good start lol, but Ive still had a good time with them.

[LordKnightFandragon]

NeoGenesis For Answer, on 27 May 2015 - 02:58 PM, said:

Probably a good start lol, but Ive still had a good time with them.

13 dmg, 15 heat, 1200ms velocity is where they should start base...then you would have even more of a good time. Maybe increase CD to 4.25s.

[NeoGenesis For Answer]

LordKnightFandragon, on 27 May 2015 - 03:03 PM, said:

13 dmg, 15 heat, 1200ms velocity is where they should start base...then you would have even more of a good time. Maybe increase CD to 4.25s.

I would be happy if they buffed it on more variants. I like to be able to pop and shoot with it (especially since clan ACs are not very good peek-a-boo weapons). Im planning on testing a 4ppc TBR next chance I get to log on... Its going to be a very toasty cockpit...

[NeoGenesis For Answer]

I think it would help the gameplay if the TBR had some focused quirks, instead of just "you have this many hardpoints because you like this weapon type, f*** your weapons". Have one TBR focused on laser based combat (keep the negatives of the A variant torso because you should sacrifice something for that many hardpoints), give it some small bonuses maybe just enough to offset the negatives a little. Such as keep longer duration but make it longer range/more heat efficient. Have one variant have quirks for LRMs, and negatives on other weapon types. Keep the prime variant as the all rounder "master of none, jack-of-all-trades".
D variant could have ppc/lrm quirks for instance, but bad laser quirks.

Give the C var. better AC perks, but suffer in other categories.

S variant could have a slight pulse laser buff, (in conjunction with the prior nerfs to make them more viable). But still suffer from some decreased missile spread on the SSRMs.

TBR-A which has a s*** ton of laser hardpoint should suffer a bit for its laser vomit.

Prime variant for the sake of a previous post should get 20000% rof MG bonuses, totally serious (not really).

In my opinion instead of a massive nerf to the TBR it would've been better to possibly focus it in more specific roles, maybe not the ones I mentioned, but it would be better than what it got imo.

[Lord0fHats]

LordKnightFandragon, on 27 May 2015 - 02:40 PM, said:

They should just start by buffing PPCs.....

This.

Honestly all Clan PPCs need to be good is a heat reduction (12 or 13 would be doable, 15 is just too much) and a fix to the hit reg issues the weapon seems to have.

[Tarogato]

PPCs need a slight buff overall, and that amount of buff needs to be retroactively subtracted from any chassis that where already buffed for it.

Right now it's to the point where the majority of the time people that equip PPCs only do it on quirked chassis. Which is kinda sad, and a testament to the poor approach to balance that PGI has been making.

[NeoGenesis For Answer]

Lord0fHats, on 27 May 2015 - 05:27 PM, said:

This.

Honestly all Clan PPCs need to be good is a heat reduction (12 or 13 would be doable, 15 is just too much) and a fix to the hit reg issues the weapon seems to have.

But not the real point of the post however. The focus of the post is the TBR. Despite the fact that everyone knows that the clan ppc negatives are a bit excessive.

[Mystere]

Alternatively, remove the CERPPC spash and make damage fully pinpoint.

Adding EMP effects wouldn't be bad either.

Edited by Mystere, 27 May 2015 - 05:36 PM.

[LordKnightFandragon]

NeoGenesis For Answer, on 27 May 2015 - 05:03 PM, said:

I would be happy if they buffed it on more variants. I like to be able to pop and shoot with it (especially since clan ACs are not very good peek-a-boo weapons). Im planning on testing a 4ppc TBR next chance I get to log on... Its going to be a very toasty cockpit...

Trust me, its not going to be worth it. THe Warhawk can only manage 8 single shots wiht 28DHS and mastery+CD5. Your TBR has 10t less to play with, I think itd be best to stick with 2.......

WHK can do 2 Dual shots before over heating.......

Lord0fHats, on 27 May 2015 - 05:27 PM, said:

This.

Honestly all Clan PPCs need to be good is a heat reduction (12 or 13 would be doable, 15 is just too much) and a fix to the hit reg issues the weapon seems to have.

Id rather PGI keep to the theme of IS lower per shot dmg, better overall heat/dmg ratio

Clans, more dmg per shot, worse dmg/heat ratio, slower overall damage output, more dmg per shot.

So, I would lower the ISPPC to 10/12 and the CERPPC to 13/15. Keeps in that trend. IS do less per shot, better heat eff, Clans do more dmg, worse heat eff.

[El Bandito]

NeoGenesis For Answer, on 27 May 2015 - 02:38 PM, said:

With all the negative quirk additions to the TBR recently, would it be crazy if it recieved some ppc quirks to offset its negative laser quirks on some (all?(unlikely)) of its variants?

I am by no means the best at this game, if you want you can look at my mechs in my file and I have 3 adders and 3 TBRs, so maybe a little bias. However the burn times on the TBR are a little ridiculous and Ive come to love the dual ppc loadout and quirks on my adder prime.

Only on Timbie-A/D arms. Cause that's stock.

Edited by El Bandito, 27 May 2015 - 06:08 PM.