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#21 Sarlic

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 02:35 AM

I feel you!

Sometimes you have out of the 10 matches about two or three when everything goes fine and you score above your 'avarage'.

Very satifying.

From those 7 or 8 matches i score average, because the rest falls like puppets or the other team is just better or our team is just not so good.

#22 TWIAFU

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 02:36 AM

My favorite accusation of cheating is when the Urbie came out.

Put in XL engine but moved at stock speed, intentionally, to draw in prey.

Once someone fell for it, hit full speed, and in a blur of Urbie love, he was a pile of slag.

His/her easy kill was mine and they did not like it at all, so, naturally, I was cheating.



Sad how many pugtards fall for the bait and trap.

#23 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 02:39 AM

I had a rare match where I placed every shot perfect and had 7 kills at the end. I was accused of cheating. I felt like I was too after but it was just that one in million where it came together. I made up for it by getting stomped the next week or so. :)

After seeing the ban list and having problems with three of them on a regular basis though was all joy. I am sure a lot of the top tier guys just stopped after the first ban and skated by but at least they are no on notice. If PGI keeps this up the accusations will calm down over time.

Just do your best and have fun. Ignore the top tier comp guys and don't play their game.

#24 ztac

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 02:42 AM

It is bad enough that people can cheat in this game, it is also bad that people will be paranoid about it.

There is a certain cycle to cheating though and once you have them in your game it can take a very long time to stamp it out!

#25 Ursh

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 02:44 AM

Cheating really requires a good eye. There's a fine distinction between preternaturally good, and cheating.

If someone exposes themselves for .5 seconds and fires off a ppfld alpha that catches a specific component from 500+ meters,it could definitely be skill. If they do it several times in one match to actively moving opponents, hitting the same location each time against a mech that's moving, it becomes suspicious.

#26 Insects

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 03:31 AM

Nvidia Shadowplay is good, it always buffers in a loop and you can choose to save the last x minutes when you have had an amazing game, or when you witness something suss or just want to be able to replay what went wrong in a match.
That way you have a record of your awesome game, also if there are any accusations you have proof you were playing normally like a human.

A data logging replay feature would be good, a few big games have that.
Works by logging every action by every player in the game and then the client can reconstruct it into a replayable recording of the match from every viewpoint.
Would be a lot harder to sneaky cheat when anyone suspicious of a player can replay their every action.

Another advantage of that is making cool movies from various camera angles and with higher resolution post processed rendering.

#27 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 03:37 AM

I have found that when I have this Match:

View PostUltimatum X, on 29 May 2015 - 05:13 PM, said:

I might if I was that good all of the time, but really it was one of those matches where everything kind of fell into place.


This one is my normal follow up

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But yeah, then there are the matches where things go to hell in a handbag fast. So it's not like this is normal lol.
So yeah. I know what yer preaching here.

#28 Zink1701

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 04:15 AM

I was accused the other day of cheating, I killed him then another guy right after. Then I saw "CHEATER" in the chat off 1 of hte guys I killed. Some people just cant handle it when the die through there own bad luck or bad piloting. I will post the video once it has uploaded.

#29 Bill Lumbar

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 05:27 AM

Ultimatum X,

Many of us have games that are to good to be true.... we start out the match, things go very well, and they just keep going well. Our team mates work as a team, MM sets up incoming stomp for one team or the other at times, and sometimes it sets up a match that is so close, that all the stars align, and its either ace of spades kinda match or 1200+ damage in a pug drop.

I know I have had quite a few matches that have pushed into the red and seemed way to good to be true. Right place right time, things can come together very well if you are somewhat skilled at this game, are lucky in a game, and once again all the stars seem to align. I have never had someone accuse me of "cheating" in game. I have had several players tell me that I "F@#$ed them once again" in a match because it seemed I went on a killing spree and couldn't be stopped, one such match was in my BJ-Arrow, 3 med pulse lasers, 6 mg's, 8000 rounds of ammo. :D

I haven't been playing as much in the last several months as I used to over the last 2 years for sure, but Its been months since I have had a really "god" like match such as those kind. I have screen shots and fraps videos of the majority of my matches, so I can submit them to PGI if I ever get such claims made against me. Not that I think anyone would claim it, and I simply do not cheat. I think the closet I have came to "cheating" in this game is when the server jacked up the drops, and we had pilots drop out of the match, like all 12 of them, and I was able to get the Deathstar title. I didn't even try to take advantage on my clan account, even after knowing I could of got the Deathstar on it too.

However, to my defense, I didn't even know about the drops until a hour later when I came onto the forms to find out what was going on with the servers. I also haven't put the title of Deathstar on my name badge, not even once. I have standards in life and in any game I play. Using cheat codes for playing games that are PVE is one thing... (game genie, shadowrun ABACABBAABB etc. etc...) but using paid software designed to cheat in a online game vs real players is something that is beyond me. For me, the ends doesn't justify the means, and I can't even begin to grasp why anyone would try to "cheat" at this game, not what my version of fun is. :(

I have played against you and on your team if I remember right.... no issues with your play style from me. Please, proceed ;)

Edited by Bill Lumbar, 30 May 2015 - 05:35 AM.


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Posted 30 May 2015 - 05:59 AM

A video where I am accused of cheating. Was it bad luck or just bad piloting that got him killed or did I cheat. You decide. Skip to about 3 mins for start of match, 7 mins ish is where I get accused.


Edited by Zink1701, 30 May 2015 - 06:10 AM.


#31 Deathlike

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 06:10 AM

I think many people at one time or another have had a great game, and then get called a hacker.

It's a compliment when you're not cheating. :P

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 08:43 AM

View Postjoelmuzz, on 30 May 2015 - 03:31 AM, said:

Nvidia Shadowplay is good, it always buffers in a loop and you can choose to save the last x minutes when you have had an amazing game, or when you witness something suss or just want to be able to replay what went wrong in a match.
That way you have a record of your awesome game, also if there are any accusations you have proof you were playing normally like a human.

A data logging replay feature would be good, a few big games have that.
Works by logging every action by every player in the game and then the client can reconstruct it into a replayable recording of the match from every viewpoint.
Would be a lot harder to sneaky cheat when anyone suspicious of a player can replay their every action.

Another advantage of that is making cool movies from various camera angles and with higher resolution post processed rendering.



Dude, I forgot I have Shadowplay. :(

View PostDeathlike, on 30 May 2015 - 06:10 AM, said:

I think many people at one time or another have had a great game, and then get called a hacker.

It's a compliment when you're not cheating. :P



True, very true.


Well, this particular match I finally got my shiny new achievement badge with a little more than 100 damage per head. :lol:

It's funny because this particular achievement has long been just 1 kill out of my grasp...until now!

Edited by Ultimatum X, 30 May 2015 - 08:44 AM.


#33 LORD TSARKON

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Posted 31 May 2015 - 06:17 PM

Some people just don't understand all the quirks or specialize things certain mechs can do.... I can see Newbies but not people that have been here for a while.

I got called a cheater 3 days ago....when someone is in an Urban Mech yells out you because I"m in a Huginn Raven.... which has the fastest SRM cooldown in the game... and I kill them because they died INSTANTLY from my barrage of Srm 4s.... it makes you wonder (and then secretly I Love this Mech... because its really TRollish... but you have to be so close to do damage... its squishy... which makes it balanced)
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#34 SuomiWarder

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Posted 31 May 2015 - 07:27 PM

The only time I suspected an encounter with a cheater or two was when my group of 7 players in a CW drop suffered like 8 head shot kills. Three of them me. Now I suppose it is possible that we ran into three or more head shot specialists - but I have never seen more than one or two head shot kills in a single game otherwise.

No proof, nothing to do about it so we jut shrugged it off and went to the next match.





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