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[Lyxid]

So i just did like 10-15 games in a row.
2-3won, rest was total stomp from the ennemy team.

Got headshotted as a Warhawk while moving
I was Hidden in the Buildings, but once i tried to shot someone VomitLaser Timberwolf was ready to alpha strikes me in the CT when he had absolutly no idea i could be here (No, there was no UAV, AND actually he did it twice even tho i waited lonnng before shoting again)
Torsotwisting with a Blackjack 1x, still getting killed in the CT (by PPC, not laser)
Dying pretty fast with a cataphract... (Ok, this is normal, the cataphract is large)

I actually don't even know if there is alot of hackers recently, because i didn't played for 1-2month... but like 10lose streak? Never occured to me.
Killing the fun...

(Nope, it's not because I'm a bad player, I don't want to be Arrogant but if the best player in MWO would have 2500Elo, then i would have around 2000+ Because i keep seeing kinda the same good players on my team sometimes, first that come into my mind is Proton)

#MyLife a lil topic just to rage... even tho it gonna do nothing.
And i wanted to do the challenge and EXP my cataphracts.... ><


#Edit: I knew i had to precise it, it was over 400m, river city, i was in the city, they were in water, allies too.

Edited by Lyxid, 29 May 2015 - 01:26 PM.

[Asrrin]

Seismic Sensors are totally hax.

[SilentWolff]

Fixed this for you
SH*TLOAD OF BADDERS

[Revis Volek]

Asrrin, on 29 May 2015 - 11:45 AM, said:

Seismic Sensors are totally hax.

dammit! You beat me to it!


So you where both hiding behind the same building? Brawl distance? Inside the range Seismic Sensor works....hmm

HACKERS! Burn the witch!

[Burktross]

SilentWolff, on 29 May 2015 - 11:48 AM, said:

Fixed this for you
SH*TLOAD OF BADDERS

I don't see any adders...

[Zeusus]

Lyxid, on 29 May 2015 - 11:42 AM, said:

in the Buildings, but once i tried to shot someone VomitLaser Timberwolf was ready to alpha strikes me in the CT when he had absolutly no idea i could be here (No, there was no UAV, AND actually he did it twice even tho i waited lonnng before shoting again

You didn't move, he knew you were there and he wasn't getting shot. I'd stand and wait for you to pop out again too.

As for torso twisting, read up on HSR. That explains everything there. And hotboxes I guess.

Everyone has the occasional bad streak unless they are always playing in a 12 man (and even then they all need to be very very good). Happens to 99% of people sooner or later.

[Johnny Z]

If there is then they will get banned. Consider it hard mode until then. Playing against cheats helps up your game really. You may even say they are doing you a favour in the long run believe it or not. Costs you nothing for playing hard mode, costs them everything.

Long run a player can only hope for a clean game and then a legit player is in top form. Also they can be beat.


Example. I was in a Raven peeking over hill. Some mech on other team had target lock on my Ravens leg. Smart move fighting a Ravon right? Well not if the Ravens leg isnt hitable. I returned fire on the mech with impunity while he kept hitting the hill LOL. He could couldnt hit the entire top of my Raven he just kept shooting hill. 100% true. Also 100% true, mech had my mechs left torso targeted couldnt hit my entire exposed right torso as i returned fire, he kept hitting the cover most of my mech was behind. So always fight from cover.... good rule anyway.

Other weakness of botters. They cant change targets very quickly, not as fast as legit players. They cant pilot as well either.

So if your taking fire from a player who may be botting lose line of sight to make them change targets then come at them again. You will have some time then.

Bunch of mechs running around in the open without cover, botters will rip them apart...... this is a loaded statement if there ever was one when it comes to many matches and how players are pushed into charging into the open etc.

2 tips. Front load CT, RT, LT, armor in the extreme, except on lights possibly.... Turn mouse sensativity down to half in game if you havnt already and fine tune that.

Edited by Johnny Z, 29 May 2015 - 12:53 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Asrrin, on 29 May 2015 - 11:45 AM, said:

Seismic Sensors are totally hax.

Seismic Wallhack op, PGI plz nerf


On a serious note, sometimes Thermal lets you see through buildings, or the outline of your mech before you actually emerge.
Annoying to waste damage on, useful and abusive if used right.

Not a hack, but not necessarily Working as Intended.


As for the PPC, was that a cERPPC? Those will deal 2.5 damage to your CT. Or HSR shone in his favour.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mcgral18, on 29 May 2015 - 12:12 PM, said:

sometimes Thermal lets you see through buildings, or the outline of your mech before you actually emerge.
Annoying to waste damage on, useful and abusive if used right.

Not a hack, but not necessarily Working as Intended.

Yeah, noticed this on Veridian last night. Was a Kitfox hiding behind a tree on one of the "islands" and I noticed I could vaguely make out his outline behind the tree. Felt kinda dirty landing dual PPCs in his face everytime he stepped out.... though not too terribly, as he was running one of those cheezy ERLL snipervomit builds

[DONTOR]

This thread brought to you by a recently banned cheating players alt account...

[Mystere]

There is one thing people also forget about: shadows.

[Dino Might]

Being on a team with Proton all the time doesn't necessarily mean you are on his level. ELO averaging...
Could mean the opposite. Not saying you are bad or good. But don't use your circumstantial evidence to tangentially leap to, "enemy must be hacking." If you've been around this game long enough to be that good at it, then you should know all the random happenings as a result of hit reg, HSR, rendering bugs, etc.

[Nightmare1]

2 things:

Seismic

Hit reg

That is all.

Edit: Okay, not quite all. You can't say you're a good player simply because you drop with good players. Elo averaging means tossing some baby seals into the shark tank to make sure that two different shark tanks are "balanced." Just because your teammate or enemy is a shark doesn't mean you are one too; you could be the seal.

Edited by Nightmare1, 29 May 2015 - 01:04 PM.

[Xetelian]

Just because they recently banned people who were cheating doesn't mean every loss you suffer is due to hackers.

[CocoaJin]

Lyxid, on 29 May 2015 - 11:42 AM, said:

So i just did like 10-15 games in a row.
2-3won, rest was total stomp from the ennemy team.

Got headshotted as a Warhawk while moving
I was Hidden in the Buildings, but once i tried to shot someone VomitLaser Timberwolf was ready to alpha strikes me in the CT when he had absolutly no idea i could be here (No, there was no UAV, AND actually he did it twice even tho i waited lonnng before shoting again)
Torsotwisting with a Blackjack 1x, still getting killed in the CT (by PPC, not laser)
Dying pretty fast with a cataphract... (Ok, this is normal, the cataphract is large)

I actually don't even know if there is alot of hackers recently, because i didn't played for 1-2month... but like 10lose streak? Never occured to me.
Killing the fun...

(Nope, it's not because I'm a bad player, I don't want to be Arrogant but if the best player in MWO would have 2500Elo, then i would have around 2000+ Because i keep seeing kinda the same good players on my team sometimes, first that come into my mind is Proton)

#MyLife a lil topic just to rage... even tho it gonna do nothing.
And i wanted to do the challenge and EXP my cataphracts.... &gt;&lt;

[Mystere]

Xetelian, on 29 May 2015 - 01:18 PM, said:

Just because they recently banned people who were cheating doesn't mean every loss you suffer is due to hackers.

Of course the losses were all due to hackers. He is a Mechwarrior god, and gods cannot be killed.

[Khujjo]

Example. I was in a Raven peeking over hill. Some mech on other team had target lock on my Ravens leg. Smart move fighting a Ravon right? Well not if the Ravens leg isnt hitable. I returned fire on the mech with impunity while he kept hitting the hill LOL. He could couldnt hit the entire top of my Raven he just kept shooting hill. 100% true. Also 100% true, mech had my mechs left torso targeted couldnt hit my entire exposed right torso as i returned fire, he kept hitting the cover most of my mech was behind. So always fight from cover.... good rule anyway.


Sometimes I am zoomed in on an enemy mech that looks to be clear of cover and I shoot guass rounds into an invisible barrier. It is likely something to do with my video settings not rendering the terrain properly at those ranges, but still showing the enemy mechs. This happens at long ranges periodically. this could be what you are seeing from the other perspective, as the target rather than the shooter.

[Helsbane]

Torso twist all you want. If I shoot you in the crotch I still hit CT most of the time, and even if I miss that, I'm taking your legs out.

[Khujjo]

Johnny Z, on 29 May 2015 - 11:49 AM, said:

Example. I was in a Raven peeking over hill. Some mech on other team had target lock on my Ravens leg. Smart move fighting a Ravon right? Well not if the Ravens leg isnt hitable. I returned fire on the mech with impunity while he kept hitting the hill LOL. He could couldnt hit the entire top of my Raven he just kept shooting hill. 100% true. Also 100% true, mech had my mechs left torso targeted couldnt hit my entire exposed right torso as i returned fire, he kept hitting the cover most of my mech was behind. So always fight from cover.... good rule anyway.

Sometimes I am zoomed in and shoot several guass rounds at an enemy that looks to be clear of cover only to have the shots hit an invisible wall. I believe it is likely something with my video settings not rendering the terrain properly, but showing an enemy mech. This may be what you are seeing from the target perspective rather than the shooter.

[Johnny Z]

Khujjo, on 29 May 2015 - 01:29 PM, said:

Sometimes I am zoomed in and shoot several guass rounds at an enemy that looks to be clear of cover only to have the shots hit an invisible wall. I believe it is likely something with my video settings not rendering the terrain properly, but showing an enemy mech. This may be what you are seeing from the target perspective rather than the shooter.

Yep thought of that. Both were close range though. The hit the wall thing at long range is common to make that mistake. Also there was 0 deviation in the fire.

Also anything I said above could be used just as well vrs legit players, which was sort of my first point. I have played against tons of cheats, and tons of cheats that have been banned. If that list is to believed than some were in this game even.

I got trolled for feeling sorry for cheats that got banned. I feel sorry for them because they found a reason good enough to cheat or were pressured into it and that they lost their accounts because of it.

Edited by Johnny Z, 29 May 2015 - 01:48 PM.