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[MeiSooHaityu]

During this past weekend I was trying to come up with a good Ilya Muromets build. I wanted to run a reliable setup (no Ultras) and run it with as fast of a STD engine as I could. I decided to run with both Endo and Ferro to see if I could squeze the biggest STD engine in it that I could. I came up with this and it is actually pretty decent...

Ilya Muromets
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...42b57540591841e

It is a tiny bit low on ammo (I think it could have used 1 more ton), but it really turned out to be pretty effective for me. I ran this with the A/C5 cool down module as well.

It felt quick and manuverable and it seemed to torso twist well to spread damage. I think I will keep this build for a while.




It also got me thinking, could I do something like this in the 'Phract 3D (C) I won a while back. I played around with it and got this...

CTF 3D (C)
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0b0a735fa89495e

I didn't want the standard MLasers, but if you did go MLasers, you could run a STD 305 giving you a top speed of 77.6 with speed tweak (instead of the 295 going 75kph). I felt the pulses were worth it since only running 3 energy (plus it was different than my Ilya).

Of course this build lacks JJs, so I lastly thought about a "Metal Salad" build...

CTF 3D (C)
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3521a5f38831035

This allows for 2 JJs or 2 more tons of ammo (or 1 JJ and 1 ton more ammo). Again, you could drop the pulse for regular MLasers and go for a STD 305 engine. You could also drop the 2 JJs and install a STD 315 for 80 kph with speed tweak. I kind of like the idea of a JJing 2 LBX10 Phract though. Still, gives options if you don't jump.

Anyway, just thought I'd share. People don't use Ferro much, so I figured a few Ferro builds would be interesting. I just wanted to make some decent firepower setups with a STD engine for survivability in the 'Phract and Ferro seemed to allow for that.

Granted this is for your PUG enjoyment, but I feel you could do worse LOL.

P.S. The 3D builds are also a bit ammo light. You could drop the JJs in the LBX build for 2 more tons of ammo.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 09 June 2015 - 07:36 AM.

[DONTOR]

I like the Illya the most, I just personally couldnt use an AC10 variant weapon with only 3 tons of ammo, I would absolutely need a min of 4, but I do understand the builds intentions, which is basically surviveablity, with a relatively quick standard engine. I like your line of thinking, but if I could make one change it would be to swap 1JJ for a ton of ammo on the LBX10 version.

[ThirtyOughtSix]

That Llya build is almost exactly what I use. Although, I use a standard 275. I think it runs hot as is but I like the idea of extra speed. Might have to try that out build out.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Agreed Dontor, the A/C10 model is ammo light. 22 double shots isn't terribly light, but it is light none the less.

I kind of like the twin LBX metal salad better, and I could see doing what you said (1JJ and 1 ton ammo).

I ran that Ilya all weekend and it really performed for me. It also could have used 1 more ton ammo, but damage numbers were good (600 ~ 800) and it normally got me a kill. The 'Phract 3D builds are largely untested, but I sm eager to perfect it a bit more.

[Widowmaker1981]

Just a side note, but since this tournament only counts the top 10 games, you are not looking for reliable good performances, you are looking for rare exceptional ones, hence id advise using an XL - sure youll die fast sometimes, but with 1/2 your mech gone you werent going to get an exceptional game anyway.

[MeiSooHaityu]

I am curious. Does the dynamic structure from Endo and Ferro take critical hits? I wonder this becausebecause if it did, one added bonus of running Endo and Ferro like this would be additional crit padding.

I don't think it works that way, but if it does, that would be a real bonus.

[Spheroid]

Running AC-10/PPC combo without ferro will yield better results. Not only is the heat dissipation better your have better crit padding. Also perfect horizontal convergence if mounted in the RT.

[LORD TSARKON]

MeiSooHaityu, on 09 June 2015 - 08:05 AM, said:

I am curious. Does the dynamic structure from Endo and Ferro take critical hits? I wonder this becausebecause if it did, one added bonus of running Endo and Ferro like this would be additional crit padding.

I don't think it works that way, but if it does, that would be a real bonus.

Nope... but I heard during Beta gyros and Upper or Lower Arm Actuators were considered for Crits... (so if your arm ACtuator was damaged you could not move that arm,ect) but never implemented for some reason.. (probably to simplify the crit process)

http://mwomercs.com/...-a-brief-guide/

[MeiSooHaityu]

LORD TSARKON, on 09 June 2015 - 08:35 AM, said:

Nope... but I heard during Beta gyros and Upper or Lower Arm Actuators were considered for Crits... (so if your arm ACtuator was damaged you could not move that arm,ect) but never implemented for some reason.. (probably to simplify the crit process)

http://mwomercs.com/...-a-brief-guide/

OK, thanks for the answer!

[LORD TSARKON]

MeiSooHaityu, on 09 June 2015 - 08:43 AM, said:

OK, thanks for the answer!

Yah... also I have horrible luck with Cataphracts.... but your Build was similar to mine... but wanted to post this..

The only difference between our builds is your BUILD is +5.1 KPH faster but mine has +1.5 tons more ammo

Typically you want to go as fast as possible but I run out of ammo all the time...
so for me its worth losing 5 KPH for 1.5 tons(45 more shots) of AC/5 ammo

Edited by LORD TSARKON, 09 June 2015 - 12:01 PM.