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[FupDup]

Gyrok, on 10 June 2015 - 12:57 PM, said:

Arms are also significantly lower than expected...because of proportions, they are almost waist height. This bodes poorly for those hoping for high mounts...

At worst, they appear to be at about the same height as a Mad Cat's torso hardpoints (excluding the A left torso), relative to the cockpit that is.

Also note that there is a very clear blank mounting box on each arm where a second cannon can go, which will be mounted a bit higher than that.

Edited by FupDup, 10 June 2015 - 12:59 PM.

[LordKnightFandragon]

DAng, even with tall legs, that thing is like shooting the side of a pancake. I can see it in about a month, CB OP, Too good hitboxes!

Edited by LordKnightFandragon, 10 June 2015 - 01:00 PM.

[Hawk819]

Tuesday just couldn't come any closer.

[Hit the Deck]

Gyrok, on 10 June 2015 - 12:57 PM, said:

Arms are also significantly lower than expected...because of proportions, they are almost waist height. This bodes poorly for those hoping for high mounts...
....

Why would it matter? The cockpit sits vertically very close to the arms. Those side torso hardpoints are also not that far away from both.

[LORD ORION]

It won't be able to poke like a Stalker. Those diagonal high mounts will expose enough surface area for most people to hit easily.

Hopes shattered etc...
Then the nerfs will hit later after bads get wrekd and complain "OP OP" about a mech they won't grind for

[Kristov Kerensky]

lordtzar, on 10 June 2015 - 12:52 PM, said:

Hmmm.........the more I look at the last pick the more I'm reminded of the Bushwacker........

I know man, it's so weird, almost like they used the CB as the basis for the Bushwacker design....

Which, by the way, is exactly what they did, so go figure that it would resemble it so closely.

[Hardac]

That is one sexy beast of a machine. Good job modelers. I beat up on you a lot about other...uh really bloated mechs but this one...this one you did good.

[Moldur]

The side torso grills are significantly larger than I thought they'd be. Doesn't look like the artwork so much, but still looks cool regardless.

[Navid A1]

Well... um... I can't even... what?... WWWWTTTFFFF.



This better be a joke.

Edited by Navid A1, 10 June 2015 - 01:23 PM.

[FupDup]

Navid A1, on 10 June 2015 - 01:20 PM, said:

Well... um... I can't even... what?... WWWWTTTFFFF.



This better be a joke.

Well, on the bright side, this might make the CT a bit easier to shield...

Although I do think the concept art version looked quite a bit sexier.

[Tennex]

Navid A1, on 10 June 2015 - 01:20 PM, said:

Well... um... I can't even... what?... WWWWTTTFFFF.



This better be a joke.

Upon closer inspection, the black bits on the nose looks to be unique geometry

Edited by Tennex, 10 June 2015 - 02:12 PM.

[Templar Dane]

Kristov Kerensky, on 10 June 2015 - 01:11 PM, said:

I know man, it's so weird, almost like they used the CB as the basis for the Bushwacker design....

Which, by the way, is exactly what they did, so go figure that it would resemble it so closely.

The caldron born saw service long before the bushwacker came around. Not sure when they prototyped it, but they couldn't get them to work until after they reverse engineered a vulture.

[CDLord HHGD]

Pure awesomesauce! Glad I got my W3 package.

[Verkhne]

Hmmm that is the (I) invasion variant? Maybe the grills are smaller on the standards? (or vice-versa, whichever applies, lol )

[FupDup]

Verkhne, on 10 June 2015 - 01:27 PM, said:

Hmmm that is the (I) invasion variant? Maybe the grills are smaller on the standards? (or vice-versa, whichever applies, lol )

An interesting question.

[Navid A1]

Tennex, on 10 June 2015 - 01:22 PM, said:

Yeah it def doesn't look as good as the concept art.

But at least its not as bad as this:



Upon closer inspection, the black bits on the nose looks to be unique geometry

What happened to this model?
I'd take this any day , anytime , anywhere over that screenshot ....aaaaarrrrghhhh..... and to think that the one in the screenshot is the invasion version just burns....
why???

Edited by Navid A1, 10 June 2015 - 01:31 PM.

[Hit the Deck]

FupDup, on 10 June 2015 - 01:21 PM, said:

Well, on the bright side, this might make the CT a bit easier to shield...

Although I do think the concept art version looked quite a bit sexier.

Verkhne, on 10 June 2015 - 01:27 PM, said:

Hmmm that is the (I) invasion variant? Maybe the grills are smaller on the standards? (or vice-versa, whichever applies, lol )

FupDup, on 10 June 2015 - 01:27 PM, said:

An interesting question.

kyrdragon, on 10 June 2015 - 01:29 PM, said:

Why are those side torso protrusions on the nose so long compared to the concept art..? It looks really awkward.. Almost like the ST's were arbitrarily made larger. Is that just the unique invasion geometry? Seems weird..

I guess they made those side grills that wide to contain that 3E hardpoints. If you put 3 lasers on the left torso, they will sit in a row filling the "grill". Just my guess. But it looks like that it only has enough space for two.

Edited by Hit the Deck, 10 June 2015 - 01:36 PM.

[FupDup]

Hit the Deck, on 10 June 2015 - 01:32 PM, said:

I guess they made those side grills that wide to contain that 3E hardpoints.

I thought that they were supposed to be shoulder-mounted? Or at least like 2 of them. Even that untextured render from the past has 2 shoulder beams.

Edited by FupDup, 10 June 2015 - 01:34 PM.

[Hit the Deck]

FupDup, on 10 June 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:

I thought that they were supposed to be shoulder-mounted? Or at least like 2 of them. Even that untextured render from the past has 2 shoulder beams.
....

True, I forgot about that

Maybe they changed their mind. Supposedly you want to put two large lasers on your left torso, where would they go?

• One beside the cockpit, one above it
  
• Two above
  
• Two beside the cockpit inside the grill

Maybe that high mounted hardpoint would be only for missiles....

Edited by Hit the Deck, 10 June 2015 - 01:40 PM.

[Gyrok]

Hit the Deck, on 10 June 2015 - 01:02 PM, said:

Why would it matter? The cockpit sits vertically very close to the arms. Those side torso hardpoints are also not that far away from both.

Because like the TW, which also has a CT mounted cockpit, it will expose all manner of shoulders and side torsos before the cockpit, then expose the entire upper body to fire arm mounted weapons. Given the relative profile of the mech, exposing the cockpit alone will give anyone access to all 3 torso hit boxes from roughly 175 degree arc in front of the mech...not counting above and behind the mech which would give you absurd ability to hit any specific torso hit box from almost any specific angle.

However, you would have to be min/maxing to care about that...otherwise, your average derp will wander aimlessly in solo queue in his pretty new shiny and wonder why his STs fall off every time he sneezes, especially when he puts a Gauss in the RT.