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#61 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 08:39 AM

View PostWidowmaker1981, on 12 June 2015 - 08:36 AM, said:


Yeah good point, ill stop

On topic:

3xUAC5 + 4ERSL +6T ammo (little bit short on ammo)
2xUAC10 + 3ERML + 7T ammo (stripped left arm)
2x Gauss + 6T ammo (stripped left arm)
2xLPL 1xERML + Gauss + 3T ammo + DHS + TC1 (entirely torso based, some armour taken from each arm)

Ill work on a laser vomit build once i have the mech, little tricky to figure out the optimal layout until then.


Those sound like some awesome builds...

I think the 5 ER ML + Gauss build will be possible/viable as well.

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 08:40 AM

View Postbobobobobiy, on 12 June 2015 - 08:28 AM, said:

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I personally think the high mounted gauss or any large caliber ballistic will be extremely effective, not so much lower caliber ballistics because of mediocre armor for facetime.

And then there's laservomit...

It's somewhat unfortunate that the EBJ doesn't have ballistic hardpoint on each of the torso. But we don't know yet (or do we?) if putting a ballistic weapon on the side torso will put it up there on the missile pod's place or just beside the cockpit.

View PostGas Guzzler, on 12 June 2015 - 08:39 AM, said:

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I think the 5 ER ML + Gauss build will be possible/viable as well.

It's possible. In fact most of TBR's builds except SPLs+SRMs would be perfectly viable on the Jaguar.

Edited by Hit the Deck, 12 June 2015 - 08:44 AM.


#63 J0anna

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 08:40 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 12 June 2015 - 06:03 AM, said:



Ah but we must, otherwise, the debate will derail into locked Endo/Ferro vs seven slot advantage of the Clans, locked DHS vs 2 slot DHS for the Clans, Clan XL durability advantage vs IS engine swap etc... and will spiral out of control. Not to mention the lighter CAP and Clan ECM and half-weight CSRM and CSSRM.

Single ST death proof Clan XL engine is already a HUGE advantage. LFE is 10 years from now on, in comparison.


No we do not, since most clan mechs DO NOT have the same free tonnage as freebirth mechs do. You cannot compare the gauss carried by a victor (even minus quirks) to a gauss carried by a gargoyle, despite the fact that they are both 80 tons. The victor can (and usually does) carry far more weapons than the gargoyle. PGI balances this game around mech combat, not weapon stats. Which makes complete sense as we don't use individual weapons, but instead fight in mechs. Oh and this is not a debate, it's an arguement. I get that you can't understand why PGI has chosen to balance mechs (i.e. quirks) and not just weapons, I also get that you don't agree with this. But I agree with PGI's concept, and thus disagree with your opinion (which is all it is), there is no room for compromise, thus this isn't a debate, but an arguement.

As for the OP, the EBJ is a 65 ton mech that carries about as much weapons as the Timberwolf, but less heatsinks. It will actually be a non-assault mech that uses UAC's (as it can mount more than one). I plan on trying a 2xUAC 5 setup w/4xML, possibly a dual gauss setup, and a possible mini orion setup built around a UAC or LBX 20, but I don't have high hopes for that one. The squishiness of being a 65 ton mech makes me question it's staying power.

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 09:07 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 12 June 2015 - 08:39 AM, said:


Those sound like some awesome builds...

I think the 5 ER ML + Gauss build will be possible/viable as well.


Personally, i think the Gauss+2xLPL+1xERML build will be better than that. It will have fewer heatsinks, sure, but much longer range and if you just use the LPLs more sustainability, plus all the weapons are high mounted. All while only sacrificing 2 points on the max alpha

Edited by Widowmaker1981, 12 June 2015 - 09:09 AM.


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Posted 12 June 2015 - 11:15 AM

If I play with armor values, I should be able to get 30 free tons. so....

-right handed dual gauss, 6 tons ammo
-left handed gauss, 5 ERML
-right handed gauss, 2LPL
-2 LPL, 3 or 4 ERML
-1 LPL, 6ERML
-7 ERSL, LBX20/UAC20
-6 MPLs
-7 SPL, LBX20/UAC20
-double UAC10 and some lasers
-triple UAC5

It's going to be a pocket Timby essentially.

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 03:15 PM

I have a catapult build that I used to enjoy (pre Clan) I'm hoping to duplicate that build, or close to it.

2x AC10 or UAC10 & a few ERMLs for backup





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