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#1 Johnny Z

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 06:50 PM

Was in another match just now on the Galaxy map and was fighting a mech at the end that was not taking ANY damage. for a LONG time he didnt receive any damage and may have won the other team the match in doing so. At the very end of the match this happened.

This is second time in the last week that at the very end of the match I am fighting a mech that is taking no damage for extended periods of time after massive amounts of damage. It was a Kit Fox this time.

I dont know who was piloting the Kit Fox but it was a mostly notorious guild on that team well known for this sort of thing.

I would appreciate it if something was done about this, it has been going on for a long while with some of the same players. Thanks.

The last time this happened the mech in question ejected to hide the problem/hack what ever it is thats going on, after taking massive damage and not showing ANY. This Kitfox blocked me etc and drew fire near the end of the match but didnt eject or even try hide it. He only had 1 MG left so I had a chance to put nearly 1k damage into that mech and NOTHING.

What bothers me most is every time I face this guild on the field I know the match will be dirty, 100% of the time.

Edited by Johnny Z, 15 June 2015 - 06:58 PM.


#2 Dino Might

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 07:04 PM

1k damage? So how long was the engagement with this lone mech when no other mechs came to play? I get that there could be something fishy going on, but you draw significant doubts due to exaggeration.

Also, videos would help make your case so much better than the suspect narrative.

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 07:12 PM

View PostDino Might, on 15 June 2015 - 07:04 PM, said:

1k damage? So how long was the engagement with this lone mech when no other mechs came to play? I get that there could be something fishy going on, but you draw significant doubts due to exaggeration.

Also, videos would help make your case so much better than the suspect narrative.


I was in a nearly fresh Protector, he had nothing but a machine gun. I dropped 2 or 3 of their team as they came to "play". That kitfox may have wont them the match as I didnt move to help the rest of the team fighting him and his friends. It went on for an extended period of time at point blank range. This was a extremely close fight. That Kitfox decided the match most likely.

Instead of helping my team i fought in disbelief against this Kitfox, the rest of their team consisting of 2 or 3 badly damaged mechs eventually came to where we were fighting. 2 minutes left in the match or something. One shot away from taking another with me to boot.

Edited by Johnny Z, 15 June 2015 - 07:17 PM.


#4 Dino Might

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 07:17 PM

I get it, but that still doesn't help with your claim of 1000 damage to a kitfox, in, what I now estimate to be a 2-3 minute engagement. I don't know anyone who can do 1000 damage in that amount of time. What I'm trying to say is that embellishments, though probably intended to portray the reaction to whatever it was that happened, really do hurt the credibility of the story. As with most things, nobody is going to do much without some documentation, video preferably, and many won't even bother to ask for that if they think the story is bogus (as I would do with the 1000 damage claim).

Maybe everyone but me is some kind of Rain Man in this game, but I can never tell how much damage I did to anything until the end of match screen shows up. I can't fight and count hits while approximating % spread and burntime multipliers all at the same time.

Edited by Dino Might, 15 June 2015 - 07:18 PM.


#5 Johnny Z

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 07:18 PM

View PostDino Might, on 15 June 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

I get it, but that still doesn't help with your claim of 1000 damage to a kitfox, in, what I now estimate to be a 2-3 minute engagement. I don't know anyone who can do 1000 damage in that amount of time. What I'm trying to say is that embellishments, though probably intended to portray the reaction to whatever it was that happened, really do hurt the credibility of the story. As with most things, nobody is going to do much without some documentation, video preferably, and many won't even bother to ask for that if they think the story is bogus (as I would do with the 1000 damage claim).


Ya it went on for a few minutes. I will say between 500 and 1k damage. When the fght began the Kitfox was missing an arm and one leg red etc. Than I did the 500 to k damage to him from there. He for sure trolled team mates ahead of me. He may have soaked up 2k damage for all I know.

This is all 100% accurate also. He was badly damage before we even started fighting etc. Started topic immediately after match to get the time right and to be accurate in fact.

Edited by Johnny Z, 15 June 2015 - 07:22 PM.


#6 Dino Might

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 07:24 PM

Well, hope you can throw something to PGI support@mwomercs.com and see if they can pull logs to check it out. They have a ton of data they can look at, so maybe.

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 07:27 PM

don't you always complain how op clan mechs are
kit fox is a clan mech

#8 Dino Might

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 07:28 PM

View Postbad arcade kitty, on 15 June 2015 - 07:27 PM, said:

don't you always complain how op clan mechs are
kit fox is a clan mech


All mechs are OP. Don't you know why you don't see any infantry in MWO?

#9 bad arcade kitty

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 07:29 PM

View PostDino Might, on 15 June 2015 - 07:28 PM, said:

Don't you know why you don't see any infantry in MWO?


it would increase the age rating of mwo

#10 SaltBeef

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 07:35 PM

This has been happening for a while. Before the Timber nerfings, I was in a Timber Meta Laser vomiter and triple alpha'd a Atlas on The ac20 hardpoint. Several Full alphas and it barely registered.......Hit reg I bet not cheating.

Edited by SaltBeef, 15 June 2015 - 07:37 PM.


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Posted 15 June 2015 - 07:48 PM

We've all been their. I chased a spider from behind dropping Large Lasers into it's rear torso for what seemed like days. Damm spider was not rolling, was not evading, just running straight ahead of me most likely wondering why his butt was warmer..

Despite doing enough damage to core an assault, I don't think I did a single point of damage to this spider.

Their are days I'm convinced that I am waving pretty colored lights around at the enemy, other days I core a Raven because I saw a pixel move and hit my mouse button.

As explained to me, ping's and Host State Rewind wreck havoc on our perceptions. Your computer said you were hitting, his computer said you missed, the server said "I don't freeken know!"

I live close to the servers (Eastern Michigan under 1000 miles from the servers), Ping low 30's. I've had my arm fall off wile I was behind cover. Cause well....a second ago someone got a lucky shot and the server is just now telling me.

#12 Johnny Z

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 07:56 PM

It had nothing to do with barely registering. The kit fox was taking no damage at all or his remaining red arm with no armor would have been off after 500 to 1k damage.

Yes I have seen this before a very few times. This will be the 4th time I am abosolutely sure of.

I dont mind making a topic of it because when these players are banned then they cant say they did nothing to deserve it.

Also if there are combat logs, which I am guessing there is at the very least this should show up easily.

Edited by Johnny Z, 15 June 2015 - 08:11 PM.


#13 bad arcade kitty

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 07:58 PM

don't you know, you had to aim for his heel

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#14 Johnny Z

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 08:01 PM

View Postbad arcade kitty, on 15 June 2015 - 07:58 PM, said:

don't you know, you had to aim for his heel

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Ya Achilles went down to tendon damage. Same with me real life and I was told to go die. Work injury. Lucky to be alive. If it had been a tendon in my foot I would be toast for sure, luckily it was my right arm and shoulder. Part of my family is from around there so I get a kick out of the irony.

Edited by Johnny Z, 16 June 2015 - 02:41 AM.


#15 Mystere

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 08:02 PM

I am noticing a pattern:

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#16 bad arcade kitty

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 08:07 PM

View PostJohnny Z, on 15 June 2015 - 08:01 PM, said:

Same with me real life and I was told to go die.


oh, that's terrible.. -_-
did your mother dip you in the river styx too to make you invulnerable? holding by the heel of course, the best way to hold a baby

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#17 Johnny Z

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 08:07 PM

View PostMystere, on 15 June 2015 - 08:02 PM, said:

I am noticing a pattern:

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Considering I was the last standing on my team, I am sure most of my team seen at least some of this.

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 08:11 PM

Coming from MW3 where lag shooting was taught so you could hit anything. Having piloted a fast hard to hit light in BZ4 and having had one teams pilot who wouldn't drop against me convinced I was a hack. Of course being an old MW3 pilot I used to play the speed slider like an instrument always keeping my speed varied. As a unit we would do a double opposing circle of death I would start a clockwise tight circle while another went counterclockwise a bit further out all while a heavy or assault hit it from a distance so it was a pretty devastating tactic to some. But continually varying the speed would in effect create a lag shield.

Another trick was to pop masc on and off hehe masc is coming. None of this was seen as cheating BTW its all playing the game and comes from a time with much honor on the gaming field. Don't hate the player!

~peace~





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