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#1 Quxudica

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Posted 09 April 2015 - 12:01 AM

I have a Raven 2x I've been toying with as a Large Laser poker. It's hit or miss, I used to be exclusively a Light pilot but the games changes a ton since then. Anyway I'm wondering if the Spider 5K might work better, seems the Spiders have better hitboxes at least but the firepower diminishes with only one ERLL and I don't get my streak back up weapon (which probably doesn't matter much since I don't carry bap anyway).

Thoughts? If there are other light chassis that serve the long range poker idea better feel free to mention them.

my Raven:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...cae7c66917dd7d4

#2 ShinVector

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Posted 09 April 2015 - 12:19 AM

Hmmm... No Spider 5K is one of the worst lights still unless you happen one of those very good light pilots with low ping and scripted your MGs to increase the ROF. (Yes... I know a pilot that does this and he was absolutely devastating with the 5K pre-quirks. )

Here is the current Quirk META build of the Raven 2X. Should work very if you have low ping and know how to kite yourself well.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...aa59f2aeb7eb0c0

*Key point is the -30% laser duration which make damage more concentrated and increases DPS.

Edited by ShinVector, 09 April 2015 - 12:21 AM.


#3 Quxudica

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Posted 09 April 2015 - 12:32 AM

View PostShinVector, on 09 April 2015 - 12:19 AM, said:

Hmmm... No Spider 5K is one of the worst lights still unless you happen one of those very good light pilots with low ping and scripted your MGs to increase the ROF. (Yes... I know a pilot that does this and he was absolutely devastating with the 5K pre-quirks. )

Here is the current Quirk META build of the Raven 2X. Should work very if you have low ping and know how to kite yourself well.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...aa59f2aeb7eb0c0

*Key point is the -30% laser duration which make damage more concentrated and increases DPS.


How on earth do you script the RoF for anything? I know you can script UAC's, but thats just the button presses being timed. MG's are continuous and I wouldn't think timed button presses would have any effect?


Also I'll give that raven a try, seems a bit slow for something so fragile.

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Posted 09 April 2015 - 12:35 AM

I enjoy both! Right now, the RVN-2X is the better performing mech, hands down. If you want to go with a spider, the SDR-5D is the way to go and the SDR-5K can make an enjoyable stepping store in getting Elite skills unlocked for the whole lot.

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Posted 09 April 2015 - 12:43 AM

View PostQuxudica, on 09 April 2015 - 12:32 AM, said:


How on earth do you script the RoF for anything? I know you can script UAC's, but thats just the button presses being timed. MG's are continuous and I wouldn't think timed button presses would have any effect?

Also I'll give that raven a try, seems a bit slow for something so fragile.


Technically to me what he did is an exploit, I rather not take too much about it.

It is slow but think of it as a high speed medium. You have 500M range once you have all the modules and everything.
Keep close to your team where possible... You prime targets are big and slow mechs.... Mid range sniping/hit and run/kiting.. That sort of game.. 27 damage at range is nothing to be laughed at if your hit reg works.

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Posted 09 April 2015 - 01:14 AM

View PostShinVector, on 09 April 2015 - 12:43 AM, said:


Technically to me what he did is an exploit, I rather not take too much about it.

It is slow but think of it as a high speed medium. You have 500M range once you have all the modules and everything.
Keep close to your team where possible... You prime targets are big and slow mechs.... Mid range sniping/hit and run/kiting.. That sort of game.. 27 damage at range is nothing to be laughed at if your hit reg works.


Yeah just had a 5 kill game on forest colony snow. The added firepower certainly helps. My ravens already mastered and pretty much the only thing I have full modules for is large lasers (from long long ago).

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Posted 30 June 2015 - 06:02 AM

You might like this idea here http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1f4269a8a2d088b

Edited by JTYoshi, 30 June 2015 - 06:30 AM.


#8 Mordoz

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 05:54 AM

This is my version of the 2X: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5aba422d782737b
The two LL for the the long range poker, and together with the two ML for midrange it hurt's.
It works fine if you can manage the heat....

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 10:35 PM

View PostMordoz, on 01 July 2015 - 05:54 AM, said:

This is my version of the 2X: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5aba422d782737b
The two LL for the the long range poker, and together with the two ML for midrange it hurt's.
It works fine if you can manage the heat....

View PostJTYoshi, on 30 June 2015 - 06:02 AM, said:

You might like this idea here http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1f4269a8a2d088b
that is interesting because our designs are so similar.





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