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[El Bandito]

Whether you refer the new 65 tonner as Cauldron-Born or Ebon Jaguar, it doesn't matter. In my eyes, I will always see its designation as Epic Bl*wj*b.

Edited by El Bandito, 15 June 2015 - 05:02 PM.

[FupDup]

In other news, the patch notes indicate that the Cauldron Born WILL in fact have a medium climbing archetype as predicted. It just keeps getting stronger and stronger...

Oh, and it also has zero quirks, which also means no negatives. The conspiracy to sell EBJ's thickens...

[El Bandito]

And the marketing scheme will be proven once the EBJ gets nerfs after a few months. That, and the Public Beta server tests nothing of value.

[Kira Onime]

El Bandito, on 15 June 2015 - 05:17 PM, said:

And the marketing scheme will be proven once the EBJ gets nerfs after a few months. That, and the Public Beta server tests nothing of value.

Let's just enjoy the IS tears before it gets nerfed.

[occusoj]

FupDup, on 15 June 2015 - 05:11 PM, said:

Oh, and it also has zero quirks, which also means no negatives. The conspiracy to sell EBJ's thickens...

Im ready bet money on it getting negative quirks in 6-12 month though. Unless it totally fails on hitboxes right at release that is.

[FupDup]

occusoj, on 15 June 2015 - 05:19 PM, said:

Im ready bet money on it getting negative quirks in 6-12 month though. Unless it totally fails on hitboxes right at release that is.

Even if the hitboxes messed up, the torso mounts are so high that you could get away with hillhumping shots without getting shot back. There's almost nothing that can stop the EBJ from being pwnsauce.

[El Bandito]

occusoj, on 15 June 2015 - 05:19 PM, said:

Im ready bet money on it getting negative quirks in 6-12 month though. Unless it totally fails on hitboxes right at release that is.

FupDup, on 15 June 2015 - 05:20 PM, said:

Even if the hitboxes messed up, the torso mounts are so high that you could get away with hillhumping shots without getting shot back. There's almost nothing that can stop the EBJ from being pwnsauce.

Judging from its flat and bulky side torsi, the Epic ******* is gonna be pretty vulnerable to LRMs. Gonna have a field day Lurming those newly bought EBJs with my boats. Especially since the ECM Hellbies will be gone by then.

Edited by El Bandito, 15 June 2015 - 05:25 PM.

[Averen]

El Bandito, on 15 June 2015 - 05:22 PM, said:

Judging from its flat and bulky side torsi, the Epic ******* is gonna be pretty vulnerable to LRMs. Gonna have a field day Lurming those newly bought EBJs with my boats. Especially since the ECM Hellbies will be gone by then.

You mean 'relative' flat and bulky side torsi, that things probably similar to a nova. And we all know how much having a barnsized side torso hurt misery and krab.^^

I'm curious, but not looking forward to it to much. Gotta keep all my stronk assaults ready.

KiraOnime, on 15 June 2015 - 05:19 PM, said:

Let's just enjoy the IS tears before it gets nerfed.

Enjoy the tears while they are still here.

Edited by Averen, 15 June 2015 - 05:30 PM.

[Alistair Winter]

Let me just say right now.

It's not P2W.

[El Bandito]

Alistair Winter, on 15 June 2015 - 05:31 PM, said:

Let me just say right now.

It's not P2W.

Its pay to pwn earlier, yes. Been that way since Clan Wave I. Good for marketing, for sure.

Edited by El Bandito, 15 June 2015 - 05:34 PM.

[FupDup]

Alistair Winter, on 15 June 2015 - 05:31 PM, said:

Let me just say right now.

It's not P2W.

Of course it's not, it's just pay for early access brah!


Early access to what might be the next best mech in the game, that is.

[Bulletsponge0]

FupDup, on 15 June 2015 - 05:11 PM, said:

In other news, the patch notes indicate that the Cauldron Born WILL in fact have a medium climbing archetype as predicted. It just keeps getting stronger and stronger...

Oh, and it also has zero quirks, which also means no negatives. The conspiracy to sell EBJ's thickens...

Why wouldn't it have a medium movement archetype?

[Gas Guzzler]

KiraOnime, on 15 June 2015 - 05:19 PM, said:

Let's just enjoy the IS tears before it gets nerfed.

Timber is probably better still. More armor and JJ probably allow it to tank quite a bit more.

[Cyborne Elemental]

Bulletsponge0, on 15 June 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

Why wouldn't it have a medium movement archetype?

Then give the maddog medium archetype as well.

[Bishop Steiner]

FupDup, on 15 June 2015 - 05:11 PM, said:

In other news, the patch notes indicate that the Cauldron Born WILL in fact have a medium climbing archetype as predicted. It just keeps getting stronger and stronger...

Oh, and it also has zero quirks, which also means no negatives. The conspiracy to sell EBJ's thickens...

Did the Exe get quirks? So it's gonna be OP, too?

[Alistair Winter]

El Bandito, on 15 June 2015 - 05:33 PM, said:

Its pay to pwn earlier, yes. Been that way since Clan Wave I. Good for marketing, for sure.

Was the Shadow Hawk the best medium mech when it was released? It's so long ago, I forget if it rose to dominance while it was still "early access" or if that happened later.

[Averen]

El Bandito, on 15 June 2015 - 05:33 PM, said:

Its pay to pwn earlier, yes. Been that way since Clan Wave I. Good for marketing, for sure.

Come on, think about it before commenting. We don't even have the Cauldronguy and know it's gonna be OP. Of course PGi will nerf it, as usual, when it comes out of premium only. Only those willing to play can fully 'enjoy' the broken glory.

Of course it's not gonna be OP indefinitly. Otherwise people wouldn't buy the next overpowered thing.

Really, simple logic. The current P2W is a pretty twisted system.

[El Bandito]

Bulletsponge0, on 15 June 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

Why wouldn't it have a medium movement archetype?

Because it is a Heavy? Majority of the Heavies have Large archetype, in keeping with their weight to mobility ratio. Except in this case EBJ got off lightly due to its short height.

Averen, on 15 June 2015 - 05:51 PM, said:

Come on, think about it before commenting. We don't even have the Cauldronguy and know it's gonna be OP. Of course PGi will nerf it, as usual, when it comes out of premium only. Only those willing to play can fully 'enjoy' the broken glory.

Of course it's not gonna be OP indefinitly. Otherwise people wouldn't buy the next overpowered thing.

Really, simple logic. The current P2W is a pretty twisted system.

You are just repeating what I had said.

Alistair Winter, on 15 June 2015 - 05:50 PM, said:

Was the Shadow Hawk the best medium mech when it was released? It's so long ago, I forget if it rose to dominance while it was still "early access" or if that happened later.

I know it had risen to top tier very fast, because the poptart meta was alive back then. Shawk's high mounted hardpoints were abused well.

Edited by El Bandito, 15 June 2015 - 05:58 PM.

[Kira Onime]

Averen, on 15 June 2015 - 05:29 PM, said:

Enjoy the tears while they are still here.

I'd argue they are still around.

[Bishop Steiner]

Alistair Winter, on 15 June 2015 - 05:50 PM, said:

Was the Shadow Hawk the best medium mech when it was released? It's so long ago, I forget if it rose to dominance while it was still "early access" or if that happened later.

It was pretty much off the bat, despite cries of DoA.

My issue with this reasoning? Then either the GRF or WVR should have been the Meta on their release, and the ENF, etc. Whatever new mechs should ALL be the tops when released.... and most are not. Hellbringer is really good, but not Timby good. MDD not even close. No medium has come close to the SCR, and it looks unlikely to change.

Simple fact? Somebody has to be top dog. Maybe EBJ will take it from the TBR. If it doesn't....how many people will actually man up and post they were wrong on here?